Timekeeper
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Gotta Keep 'Em Separated
Disney can do whatever they want. That, however, does not mean everything that they do is right. Same goes for the police. Can they beat a person to a pulp with their sticks if that person poses no threat and does not fight back? While the theoretical answer may be "no," the real answer is "yes."
The problem that I have with comparing "pressing buttons" to "cutting the line" is that one demonstrates specific intent to "cheat" while the other may not. I, like many others, am a curious person. Some people check payphone change returns for spare change, other people push soda machine buttons to see if a free soda happens to pop out, none of which are "wrong." If there's an exposed botton on a fastpass machine, and there is nothing indicating that the botton should not be pushed (warning signs or security enclosure) then a few people are going to push the bottom, the majority of which probably don't know what the botton does. That action is not always wrong per se. Yes, there are cheaters out there, but if a family is visiting from Iowa and their 12 year old son pushes the botton because he just happens to see it, I'd be hard pressed to see any justification for any consequences other than a "please don't touch that" from a supervising CM.
As fot the mysterious botton's discussion on this board, it needs to be discussed in order to reach a solution. The few cheaters who are out there will continue to cheat so long as the system is not changed. If we get the word out, Disney will have to eventually update the system (or CM key handling practices) to prevent system abuse. The same reasoning is applied to currency. Sure, we could still use the type of US currencty that was being printed 10 years ago, so why do we have to keep updating the currency's designs and other technical specifications? To prevent counterfeit and fraud. Once the general public was educated as to how currenty was traditionally re-created using offset printing and additional procedures, government didn't prevent such "education" because they're always going to be one step ahead of the cheaters, thus making cheater much more difficult and possibly not worth the time, effort and resources to do so.
So no one needs to complain about the botton being discussed here. Hopefully WDW will eliminate the problem, whether it be lazy CM's who leave keys in the machines and/or openly exposed buttons, to prevent what is obviously a known problem. The fact that they've had to talk to one person about it means that they know about the problem. If they take no steps to correct the situation, then that speaks for their priorities and view as to the relevance of the issue at hand.
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Rcoaster809 said:
Disney can do whatever they want. That, however, does not mean everything that they do is right. Same goes for the police. Can they beat a person to a pulp with their sticks if that person poses no threat and does not fight back? While the theoretical answer may be "no," the real answer is "yes."
The problem that I have with comparing "pressing buttons" to "cutting the line" is that one demonstrates specific intent to "cheat" while the other may not. I, like many others, am a curious person. Some people check payphone change returns for spare change, other people push soda machine buttons to see if a free soda happens to pop out, none of which are "wrong." If there's an exposed botton on a fastpass machine, and there is nothing indicating that the botton should not be pushed (warning signs or security enclosure) then a few people are going to push the bottom, the majority of which probably don't know what the botton does. That action is not always wrong per se. Yes, there are cheaters out there, but if a family is visiting from Iowa and their 12 year old son pushes the botton because he just happens to see it, I'd be hard pressed to see any justification for any consequences other than a "please don't touch that" from a supervising CM.
As fot the mysterious botton's discussion on this board, it needs to be discussed in order to reach a solution. The few cheaters who are out there will continue to cheat so long as the system is not changed. If we get the word out, Disney will have to eventually update the system (or CM key handling practices) to prevent system abuse. The same reasoning is applied to currency. Sure, we could still use the type of US currencty that was being printed 10 years ago, so why do we have to keep updating the currency's designs and other technical specifications? To prevent counterfeit and fraud. Once the general public was educated as to how currenty was traditionally re-created using offset printing and additional procedures, government didn't prevent such "education" because they're always going to be one step ahead of the cheaters, thus making cheater much more difficult and possibly not worth the time, effort and resources to do so.
So no one needs to complain about the botton being discussed here. Hopefully WDW will eliminate the problem, whether it be lazy CM's who leave keys in the machines and/or openly exposed buttons, to prevent what is obviously a known problem. The fact that they've had to talk to one person about it means that they know about the problem. If they take no steps to correct the situation, then that speaks for their priorities and view as to the relevance of the issue at hand.
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