Does DHS need more to continue to be relevant?

[Studios Fan]

I just do not understand the obsession with this attraction. It's a simulator.:snore: There are so many possibilities with such a great franchise and that is the best they can do.:shrug: As to the original question, yes.

I like ST, but give me a good solid dark ride any day of the week.

 

[rsoxguy]

I just do not understand the obsession with this attraction. It's a simulator.:snore: There are so many possibilities with such a great franchise and that is the best they can do.:shrug: As to the original question, yes.

I tend to agree with Yankspy on both points. BTW, the baby on your avatar is a cutie!

 

[Susan Savia]

HS is a half day park for us. Starting out with TSM, then American Idol, Great Movie Ride, Mermaid, Animation Tour, Indiana Jones, Backlot Tour, One Mans Dream and Muppets, a little shopping, a look in Sids and out the door we go over to another park by 1:00pm.

 

[CaptainMichael]

The Studios is a half-day park that can only be strung out if you watch AIE multiple times.

There is nothing worth doing beyond PIXAR Place (if you have a fastpass)

Sunset Blvd is the main reason to go, if not the only reason.

The BAH ruins any attempt at theming Hollywood Blvd.

At least it has a better name now.

Worst park in WDW.

Discuss.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

The Studios is a half-day park that can only be strung out if you watch AIE multiple times.

There is nothing worth doing beyond PIXAR Place (if you have a fastpass)

Sunset Blvd is the main reason to go, if not the only reason.

The BAH ruins any attempt at theming Hollywood Blvd.


At least it has a better name now.

Worst park in WDW.

Discuss.

:lookaroun


Paging a one Mr. Servo, Mr. EpcotServo to the thread...:lookaroun:lol:


Anyway, while I am not a HUGE fan of DHS. I do have to say that I don't think of it THAT badly.:lol:

Any park can be a half day park, if you think about it. Depends on what you want to see.

I do agree with the BAH, though.

 

[CaptainMichael]

:lookaroun


Paging a one Mr. Servo, Mr. EpcotServo to the thread...:lookaroun:lol:


Anyway, while I am not a HUGE fan of DHS. I do have to say that I don't think of it THAT badly.:lol:

Any park can be a half day park, if you think about it. Depends on what you want to see.

I do agree with the BAH, though.

DAK is a half-day park as well.

DHS officially lost any sense of identity when that plastic hat landed in front of the Chinese Theatre.

Servo is easily impressed if he thinks that :zipit: is the best World Showcase country:lookaroun It seems like it's always under refurb.


Disclaimer: parts of this post were said in jest.

 

[Figments Friend]

I agree with the Captain....DHS is indeed a half-day Park and not really up to Disney Park standards in my mind.

Since it first opened, i have always seen it as a 'pointless Park'. It seemed to be opened for all the wrong reasons...and rushed open at that just to beat Universals' opening day. It has never been a must do for me..more of a passing through, or a quick stopover from EPCOT to take in the few attractions/shows/parades i have wanted to see over the years. Sadly most of these are now gone....and the fact that DHS is no longer a active, working production facility hurts it even more to me.

When DHS was still actively a working studio, it had a edge to it...a attractive charm though clearly smaller in scale then the serious productions that were going on across the Magic Border. It was still cool to be able to walk through and see tv productions being shot, take the Tram Tour backstage and really see some things...and of course most of all, be able to tour the Animation building and actually see stuff being created!

The Park is so empty to me now since all of that has fallen by the wayside. When Animation closed a couple of years ago, that was the last nail in the coffin for me as far as interest in DHS. Sure i still visit when i am in town for the week, but it is like visiting a burned out home that used to be so welcoming and cozy. I really miss the 'production' end a lot. When i visit the Animation building now, it is so depressing. What was once a thriving creative community has been stuttered. In January i passed through alone and watched a woman below me in one of the glassed rooms paint cels that were solely for the purpose of selling at the Animation shop at the end of the tour. It was sad to me, as she probably worked on some of my favorite recent Traditional films and was now 'reduced' to using her talents to paint tourist fodder. After that thought crossed my mind she looked up at me, like our minds had melded, and understood. After some exchange of friendly hand signals ( thumbs up - you rock) we kind of 'bonded' for that moment. It was a brief flashback to the old days of the Studios.

Today the Park is more a thrill ride destination. When one is not a thrill ride fan, and cannot handle the speeding coasters and elevator drops...the Park is even MORE 'empty' as far as interesting things to do goes. DHS and i have had a real love/hate relationship over the years...but i applaud the CM's in the roles who try to bring 'the Hollywood that Never Was' to life. I am very glad they still have Streetmosphere characters performing...it harkens back to the old days of Disney-MGM Studios...back when it really WAS a Studio and not just a excuse to sell another days' admission.

For me, the 'BAH' symbolises all that is wrong with the Park. A quick colorful piece of eye candy designed to 'hide' the empty shell of a Park left in it's midst.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

DAK is a half-day park as well.

DHS officially lost any sense of identity when that plastic hat landed in front of the Chinese Theatre.

Servo is easily impressed if he thinks that :zipit: is the best World Showcase country:lookaroun It seems like it's always under refurb.


Disclaimer: parts of this post were said in jest.

I agree. It's the biggest problem there, now. The themeing.

As I have said before, DHS needs to be more 1930's Hollywood. In that, it adds to the fantasy and the feeling they wish to convey, I feel.

I agree with the Captain....DHS is indeed a half-day Park and not really up to Disney Park standards in my mind.

Since it first opened, i have always seen it as a 'pointless Park'. It seemed to be opened for all the wrong reasons...and rushed open at that just to beat Universals' opening day. It has never been a must do for me..more of a passing through, or a quick stopover from EPCOT to take in the few attractions/shows/parades i have wanted to see over the years. Sadly most of these are now gone....and the fact that DHS is no longer a active, working production facility hurts it even more to me.

When DHS was still actively a working studio, it had a edge to it...a attractive charm though clearly smaller in scale then the serious productions that were going on across the Magic Border. It was still cool to be able to walk through and see tv productions being shot, take the Tram Tour backstage and really see some things...and of course most of all, be able to tour the Animation building and actually see stuff being created!

The Park is so empty to me now since all of that has fallen by the wayside. When Animation closed a couple of years ago, that was the last nail in the coffin for me as far as interest in DHS. Sure i still visit when i am in town for the week, but it is like visiting a burned out home that used to be so welcoming and cozy. I really miss the 'production' end a lot. When i visit the Animation building now, it is so depressing. What was once a thriving creative community has been stuttered. In January i passed through alone and watched a woman below me paint cels that were solely for the purpose of selling at the Animation shop at the end of the tour. It was sad to me, as she probably worked on some of my favorite recent Traditional films and was now 'reduced' to using her talents to paint tourist fodder. After that thought crossed me mind she looked up at me, like our minds had melded, and understood. That was quite a moment.

Today the Park is more a thrill ride destination. When one is not a thrill ride fan, and cannot handle the speeding coasters and elevator drops...the Park is even MORE 'empty' as far as interesting things to do goes. DHS and i have had a real love/hate relationship over the years...but i applaud the CM's in the roles who try to bring 'the Hollywood that Never Was' to life. I am very glad they still have Streetmosphere characters performing...it harkens back to the old days of Disney-MGM Studios...back when it really WAS a Studio and not just a excuse to sell another days' admission.

For me, the 'BAH' symbolises all that is wrong with the Park. A quick colorful piece of eye candy designed to 'hide' the empty shell of a Park left in it's midst.

I won't comment on the other parts, but I do agree with that. Without it, the park wanes to the generic.

I mean, even Uni has a production center.:lookaroun

 

[CaptainMichael]

I agree. It's the biggest problem there, now. The themeing.

As I have said before, DHS needs to be more 1930's Hollywood. In that, it adds to the fantasy and the feeling they wish to convey, I feel.

Universal Studios exceled at the theming aspect...no so sure how Rockit will affect the ambiance, but I'm sure I'll enjoy the coaster.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Universal Studios exceled at the theming aspect...no so sure how Rockit will affect the ambiance, but I'm sure I'll enjoy the coaster.

I have often wondered how they DO explain the exposed coaster theming.
:shrug:

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Do give a toss about relevance or all that other fan boy fake studio guff, just give me some good attractions to experience and make it better value for my money.

 

[EpcotServo]

The Studios is a half-day park that can only be strung out if you watch AIE multiple times.

There is nothing worth doing beyond PIXAR Place (if you have a fastpass)

Sunset Blvd is the main reason to go, if not the only reason.

The BAH ruins any attempt at theming Hollywood Blvd.

At least it has a better name now.

Worst park in WDW.

Discuss.

1: Nope. I can spend at least seven hours there, without seeing anything twice, and avoiding attractions I don't like. If you spend a half day or full day there doesn't matter to me though, I believe parks shouldn't be taken by schedule.

2: Isn't saying Sunset Blvd. is the main reason to go after saying there's nothing to see beyond Pixar Place a Major Contradiction? It's like saying there's nothing to do at kingdom outside of Adventureland. Oh, but you have to see Tomorrowland and Frontierland too.

3: I assume BAH means the hat, thought I can only assume what the BA implies. I wouldn't call it BA, seeing as how it's not that cool, but however you feel dude.

4: No, Disneyquest is the worst.

And even it is, I'll gladly contest the park's value against the others.



If it is the worst, it'll go down fighting my friend.

DHS officially lost any sense of identity when that plastic hat landed in front of the Chinese Theatre.

Servo is easily impressed if he thinks that :zipit: is the best World Showcase country:lookaroun It seems like it's always under refurb.

Studios has a very strong identity. Why do you think, that despite nomenclature, every Cast Member who works there refers to it as "Studios". Rather than "DHS" or "Hollywood Studios" as you guys call it. Because it's tightly knit. Because Studios is unique. Because it isn't the Magic Kingdom with movies. Like the other three parks, it's one of a kind.

And if all the Cast and people who work at Studios want the hat gone, it's because of their indentity. And what hasn't killed the park, will in the end only make it stronger.

(And Japan is clearly the best. Best store, Best restaurants, Best Architecture, Best Landscaping, and certainly best Background Music, and even the best live performers. Most of the Pavailions have no show or ride, so I don't think that's a valid competition point. Plus after all the Rehabs you mentioned, the buildings look way cleaner and better than the rest. Maybe you should wish some tarps on your favorite!)

I agree. It's the biggest problem there, now. The themeing.

As I have said before, DHS needs to be more 1930's Hollywood. In that, it adds to the fantasy and the feeling they wish to convey, I feel.



I won't comment on the other parts, but I do agree with that. Without it, the park wanes to the generic.

I mean, even Uni has a production center.:lookaroun

themeing isn't a word, we've gone over this. It's why it's got those red lines under it in spell check, to remind you that a 30's Coke-Cola sign isn't "themeing" it's detail. Theme is a base concept, etc. Do I need to tell you all this again? Joe Rhode would've just shot you by now to get it over with.
:lol:

If you want more fantasy 1930's Hollywood, like I said, you at least gotta' understand what's there.

Back to training!

As for the generic, I'll only face palm and say you need more pop culture and less history lessons.
:lookaroun

And don't get me started on production, it's absoultly stupid. Aside from Animation, which I'll agree with every which way, the idea that Universal is better because they let David Maus do car ads in front of the park is RIDICULOUS. In three years of being a Passholder, aside from News Broadcasts, I only saw them film one commercial, for which had no advertisement and was blocked from getting a good view of.

Soooo...I went off to ride things. No excitement, no backstage look, just some guardrails and Team Members.

And that's from THREE YEARS OF GOING TO THE PARK EVERY WEEK. The only actual movie that had has some shooting there in the last five years was "Final Destination 3-D". Oh yeah, shooting in betweeneers for THAT would make Studios better.
:brick:

I love Universal, but production ain't anywhere close to the reasons why.

Do give a toss about relevance or all that other fan boy fake studio guff, just give me some good attractions to experience and make it better value for my money.

^Here, I present to you a valid criticism. I really wish more posters posted like you, it'd make my life a million times easier.
:lol: :dazzle:

 

[Wilt Dasney]

Studios days pre-Hat: 4,533
Studios days post-Hat: 2,905 and counting

If the Hat survives to Feb. 26, 2014, the park will officially have had more days with the Hat than without the Hat.

I'm not sure why I calculated that, other than the fact that I've never known the park without the Hat and it's been there almost a decade now. Every day it stays up is more people who would be surprised to walk in and see it gone. :lol:

 

[jonnyc]

Studios days pre-Hat: 4,533
Studios days post-Hat: 2,905 and counting

If the Hat survives to Feb. 26, 2014, the park will officially have had more days with the Hat than without the Hat.

I'm not sure why I calculated that, other than the fact that I've never known the park without the Hat and it's been there almost a decade now. Every day it stays up is more people who would be surprised to walk in and see it gone. :lol:

I'm not sure why you calculated that either, but it is actually very interesting!

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

themeing isn't a word, we've gone over this. It's why it's got those red lines under it in spell check, to remind you that a 30's Coke-Cola sign isn't "themeing" it's detail. Theme is a base concept, etc. Do I need to tell you all this again? Joe Rhode would've just shot you by now to get it over with.
:lol:

If you want more fantasy 1930's Hollywood, like I said, you at least gotta' understand what's there.

Back to training!

As for the generic, I'll only face palm and say you need more pop culture and less history lessons.
:lookaroun

And don't get me started on production, it's absoultly stupid. Aside from Animation, which I'll agree with every which way, the idea that Universal is better because they let David Maus do car ads in front of the park is RIDICULOUS. In three years of being a Passholder, aside from News Broadcasts, I only saw them film one commercial, for which had no advertisement and was blocked from getting a good view of.

Soooo...I went off to ride things. No excitement, no backstage look, just some guardrails and Team Members.

And that's from THREE YEARS OF GOING TO THE PARK EVERY WEEK. The only actual movie that had has some shooting there in the last five years was "Final Destination 3-D". Oh yeah, shooting in betweeneers for THAT would make Studios better.
:brick:

Nomenclature!:fork::lol: What ever it is called, I want more of it, and more of it in the vein of 1930's Hollywood. That's what a "Studios" park should have at it's heart. THEN they can cover the new stuff.

History > Pop Culture. Don't even try.:lookaroun

Understood on the Production...That could go either way, I guess...And especially if they were to do REAL production there. Doesn't Uni ise there's for that Wresting thing with Talia? :lookaroun Someone call James.:lookaroun:lol:

 

[yankspy]

I tend to agree with Yankspy on both points. BTW, the baby on your avatar is a cutie!

Thanks. His first trip is in 40 days.:sohappy: