Disneyland Trip Booked for Labor Day!

Chef Mickey

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So we typically are WDW visitors, but we decided to mix it up and go to Disneyland for a long Labor Day weekend. We'll get a good 3 days of parks in, but I'm anticipating large crowds.

I've been several times, but never at a "prime" time. Any tips on how to go about it or will I be pleasantly surprised when compared to WDW during peak times?

I know fast pass is different, but is it just paper fast pass still?

We have already booked our vouchers through ARes...saved $24/ticket on a 4 day park hopper with Bonus hour.

We are doing the Fantasmic Dessert Saturday and World of Color Dinner package at Carthay Circle. I've never been there, but heard it was good. Anyone try it?

Anything else I should plan?
 

Chef Mickey

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I literally felt like crying when I just read Haunted Mansion is closed during the week I'm there.

I believe WDW and Disneyland versions of Haunted Mansion are almost identical, correct? (Besides the exterior look and location of course)
 

JillC LI

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It's still paper FP but some of the attractions are on their own FP system. For example, you can hold a FP for World of Color and still get a FP for a ride at the same time.

POC and to some extent BTMRR are different from WDW - hopefully you will be able to enjoy those at DL. Have a blast!
 

Chef Mickey

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No, they aren't identical.
Yeah, that's why I said almost, but very similar...not like Pirates at DL vs WDW. I've probably ridden WDW HM hundreds of times but DL only around 20 and not recently enough to remember. What are the biggest differences?
 

Chef Mickey

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It's still paper FP but some of the attractions are on their own FP system. For example, you can hold a FP for World of Color and still get a FP for a ride at the same time.

POC and to some extent BTMRR are different from WDW - hopefully you will be able to enjoy those at DL. Have a blast!
Thank you!
 

Californian Elitist

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Yeah, that's why I said almost, but very similar...not like Pirates at DL vs WDW. I've probably ridden WDW HM hundreds of times but DL only around 20 and not recently enough to remember. What are the biggest differences?

I'm pretty sure the hallway scene in MK's version is part of the ride, and DL's doesn't have the staircase scene.
 

JediMasterMatt

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So we typically are WDW visitors, but we decided to mix it up and go to Disneyland for a long Labor Day weekend. We'll get a good 3 days of parks in, but I'm anticipating large crowds.

I've been several times, but never at a "prime" time. Any tips on how to go about it or will I be pleasantly surprised when compared to WDW during peak times?

I know fast pass is different, but is it just paper fast pass still?

We have already booked our vouchers through ARes...saved $24/ticket on a 4 day park hopper with Bonus hour.

We are doing the Fantasmic Dessert Saturday and World of Color Dinner package at Carthay Circle. I've never been there, but heard it was good. Anyone try it?

Anything else I should plan?

Congratulations on your first visit coming up. You'll be arriving as we are departing from the sounds of it. We've done DLR the week before Labor Day the last couple of years and other than the Mansion refurb (which we intentionally arrive before it goes down for 2 days), it's a great time to visit. This year is a bit of a downer since they are only doing 1 WoC show per night as it was great to catch Magical and it each night during the week.

I'm not sure if your long Labor Day weekend means you'll be onsite Friday or into Monday; but, I've been in the parks all day Friday and up to mid day on Saturday. The cool thing about DLR is that other than the streets in Disneyland being packed, you can still get a lot done due to the overall attraction capacity that the resort has in comparision to its Orlando cousins. Remember, there are almost as many rides and in attractions in the 2 parks as there are in all 4 in Orlando.

If your WDW experience is the normal excerise of planning meticously and watching your clock to make sure you get from one reservation to the next, you will likley be very pleasantly surpised that DLR doesn't need to "beaten into submission" like Orlando. If you want to do something, simply walk up and get in line or get a FastPass. Restauants don't really require reservations, but, during the busiest of times, they do help.

At DLR, stroll around and soak up the atmosphere. Be amazed that you will encounter characters seemingly around every corner interacting with guests and not sequestered behind walls with a multihour wait (Frozen not withistanding). Apperciate the hub <pun intended> of activity that Main St USA is with all of the vehicles and performers out - and not just for a few minutes in the morning hours. Stare in wonder at the kinetic motion that is the Rivers of America and how alive it seems in comparison to the MK.

I'm a big believer in using the Fantasmic and WoC packages as a method of saving time and potentially getting better views. Be warned, to get the best of the Fantasmic seats and WoC - you still need to show up early. Carthay is a great restaurant; but, their menu is very seasonal - so be sure to look over their current choices. There is a bit of an unknown rule when it comes to WoC packages and their respective restaurants. Each place has their own zone set aside of it. The thing is that the zones sometimes shift around and the "best" restaurant isn't always the "best" view. The secret part of it (if you talk to the team leads) is that Carthay rules the roost if you want to be seated anywhere - they will let you if you ask. WoC is a very finicky show. It's good virtually anywhere, but to get the full impact (IMO) you need to see the show from the very front and center. Only there do the mist screens line up and you get a seemless presentation. Plus from the front you can see the effects on the waters surface (lasers and fog) and see the reflections. There is also something from the front that you can see anywhere - the individual water droplets take on a luminous quality that is breathtaking. So, in my opinion use your Carthay reservation and ask to go down into the wet zone and park yourself there.

Get ready to enjoy what has become the superior Disney Parks USA experience. Your trips to Orlando won't be the same after you do this (unless TDO gets their act together - but, that will take more than wishing upon a star).

Let me know if you have any additional questions.
 

JediMasterMatt

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Yeah, that's why I said almost, but very similar...not like Pirates at DL vs WDW. I've probably ridden WDW HM hundreds of times but DL only around 20 and not recently enough to remember. What are the biggest differences?

Pirates at DL is an example of perfection in theme park attractions. MK's is a Readers Digests abridged version of an immitation. DL's is much longer in that unfolds slowly and builds up to the raid on the town and then cools off again. It's not just the extra length that makes the difference either. DL's version has all the effects (and more) in working order. Little things and big things (like the cloud projections - when was the last time they worked in Orlando?) all come into play. Disneyland's Pirates is perfect.

Mansion is much more similar. As others have mentioned, the main differences are near the beginning. While both attractions are A+ material, I do believe that this is one of the rare times that MK trumps DL. You will miss not being able to do it trip; but, if you had to swap between Pirates and this - Pirates would easily be a greater blow. DL's is so much better than MK's that there is no comparison.
 

Chef Mickey

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Pirates at DL is an example of perfection in theme park attractions. MK's is a Readers Digests abridged version of an immitation. DL's is much longer in that unfolds slowly and builds up to the raid on the town and then cools off again. It's not just the extra length that makes the difference either. DL's version has all the effects (and more) in working order. Little things and big things (like the cloud projections - when was the last time they worked in Orlando?) all come into play. Disneyland's Pirates is perfect.

Mansion is much more similar. As others have mentioned, the main differences are near the beginning. While both attractions are A+ material, I do believe that this is one of the rare times that MK trumps DL. You will miss not being able to do it trip; but, if you had to swap between Pirates and this - Pirates would easily be a greater blow. DL's is so much better than MK's that there is no comparison.
Thanks so much. That's what I thought. Since HM is my favorite ride, it's always sad to miss it. I do feel some comfort in knowing they are pretty similar (I had forgotten). I know Pirates is a must do at DL and a much better overall ride. I am very excited.
 

Chef Mickey

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Congratulations on your first visit coming up. You'll be arriving as we are departing from the sounds of it. We've done DLR the week before Labor Day the last couple of years and other than the Mansion refurb (which we intentionally arrive before it goes down for 2 days), it's a great time to visit. This year is a bit of a downer since they are only doing 1 WoC show per night as it was great to catch Magical and it each night during the week.

I'm not sure if your long Labor Day weekend means you'll be onsite Friday or into Monday; but, I've been in the parks all day Friday and up to mid day on Saturday. The cool thing about DLR is that other than the streets in Disneyland being packed, you can still get a lot done due to the overall attraction capacity that the resort has in comparision to its Orlando cousins. Remember, there are almost as many rides and in attractions in the 2 parks as there are in all 4 in Orlando.

If your WDW experience is the normal excerise of planning meticously and watching your clock to make sure you get from one reservation to the next, you will likley be very pleasantly surpised that DLR doesn't need to "beaten into submission" like Orlando. If you want to do something, simply walk up and get in line or get a FastPass. Restauants don't really require reservations, but, during the busiest of times, they do help.

At DLR, stroll around and soak up the atmosphere. Be amazed that you will encounter characters seemingly around every corner interacting with guests and not sequestered behind walls with a multihour wait (Frozen not withistanding). Apperciate the hub <pun intended> of activity that Main St USA is with all of the vehicles and performers out - and not just for a few minutes in the morning hours. Stare in wonder at the kinetic motion that is the Rivers of America and how alive it seems in comparison to the MK.

I'm a big believer in using the Fantasmic and WoC packages as a method of saving time and potentially getting better views. Be warned, to get the best of the Fantasmic seats and WoC - you still need to show up early. Carthay is a great restaurant; but, their menu is very seasonal - so be sure to look over their current choices. There is a bit of an unknown rule when it comes to WoC packages and their respective restaurants. Each place has their own zone set aside of it. The thing is that the zones sometimes shift around and the "best" restaurant isn't always the "best" view. The secret part of it (if you talk to the team leads) is that Carthay rules the roost if you want to be seated anywhere - they will let you if you ask. WoC is a very finicky show. It's good virtually anywhere, but to get the full impact (IMO) you need to see the show from the very front and center. Only there do the mist screens line up and you get a seemless presentation. Plus from the front you can see the effects on the waters surface (lasers and fog) and see the reflections. There is also something from the front that you can see anywhere - the individual water droplets take on a luminous quality that is breathtaking. So, in my opinion use your Carthay reservation and ask to go down into the wet zone and park yourself there.

Get ready to enjoy what has become the superior Disney Parks USA experience. Your trips to Orlando won't be the same after you do this (unless TDO gets their act together - but, that will take more than wishing upon a star).

Let me know if you have any additional questions.
Thanks for all your tips! We have been before, but this is our first trip in a while. We are going to be there Friday night (6pm-12am), Saturday, Sunday, and Monday until about 2pm.

I heard the Fantasmic Dessert package I got ($60/person) is a guaranteed spot, but I can show up early for more preferred seating. Is this what you're talking about? How early can I show up and can I leave after the fact after "claiming" our seats?

Same for World of Color. Does the dining package just get me a fast pass to the preferred seating area and I know to show up early and talk with them to get the best viewing spot? I do believe it's standing only. Do you have any idea if it's super "Crowded" in these areas or we will have an enjoyable viewing experience?

What other dining options do you recommend?
 
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Cosmic Commando

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Thanks so much. That's what I thought. Since HM is my favorite ride, it's always sad to miss it. I do feel some comfort in knowing they are pretty similar (I had forgotten). I know Pirates is a must do at DL and a much better overall ride. I am very excited.
The HM at WDW is better than DL's on the inside. Just pretend you're missing the regular version that closed before you got there, and not the awesome Haunted Mansion Holiday that will open after you leave. It helps. ;)
 

JediMasterMatt

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Thanks for all your tips! We have been before, but this is our first trip in a while. We are going to be there Friday night (6pm-12am), Saturday, Sunday, and Monday until about 2pm.

I heard the Fantasmic Dessert package I got ($60/person) is a guaranteed spot, but I can show up early for more preferred seating. Is this what you're talking about? How early can I show up and can I leave after the fact after "claiming" our seats?

Same for World of Color. Does the dining package just get me a fast pass to the preferred seating area and I know to show up early and talk with them to get the best viewing spot? I do believe it's standing only. Do you have any idea if it's super "Crowded" in these areas or we will have an enjoyable viewing experience?

What other dining options do you recommend?

Friday night will be busy as the locals will definately be coming out to play. You can get a lot done in the first few hours each morning, so be sure to get a jump on the locals late arrivals.

A large part of my time on Disney vacations are spent on photography, so my answers to the seat claiming questions are going to towards the very extreme as I want to get the best possible views.

For Fantasmic, they start checking people in at 8:00 for both shows. My wife usually heads over an hour to an hour and a half before they start doing this (she's a trooper). Usually, the first people lining up are doing so for the first showing and not the 2nd. We always get the 2nd showing, so I can also get fireworks photos on the same night. The seats for the desert package extend from just to the west of the shows centerline and wrap around the first tier down towards the Mansion. Closer to center is best. There are 3 rows of seats; but, here's another little tip. If you are unable to get the first row, take the back row as you can stand up from back there if someone is blocking your view. From the first two rows, you have to remain seated.

For WoC, its a way more complicated. If there is only 1 show, and as of now, it's planned that way on the schedule, then my best guess is that the first people showing up will still be 1 - 1.5 hours in advance. Each restaurant will have their own check in point. As I mentioned previously, of the 3 options (Carthay, Trattoria, and Grotto) each will have their own section "reserved". These sections are standing room only and they sometimes swap the sections around. The little known secret here is that people with Carthay reservations can ask to go anywhere. Usually, Carthay's section extends down to the very front wet zone on the show's centerline; but, sometimes, it will stop at the steps just above it. Again, if you want to go somewhere specific and have a Carthay package, they will let you if you ask. My wife is unfortunately disabled, so if she wants to get down to the wet zone, she has to go all they way down to the regular queueing location (by the Jumping Jellyfish) because that is where the ramp starts. She then lets the Cast Member there know about her dinning package and they escort her down before the rest of the group comes in. From what she's told me (since I'm usually lagging behind taking pictures), the non-disabled Carthay reservations get let in just prior to the regular FastPass people from the check point above the lagoon by Little Mermaid.

In my opinon, the best place to be for WoC is always at the front of whatever section you want to watch it from. If the wet zone is too wet for you (sometimes you don't get a drop on you and other times you can be soaked, it just depends on where the wind is coming from and how close you are to some of the bigger fountain effects), then the front of any section at least allows you to see over the top of the section below you. It will be as crowded as watching the fireworks in Orlando in terms of people.

As for other dining options at DLR, some of our in park favorites are:

Blue Bayou - just for the ambience it is worth taking time to enjoy a meal here.
Hungry Bear - good selection of items and good place to sit and enjoy the Rivers of America
Flo's - nice comfort food options

Re: the dining options for WoC - we've done both Carthay and Wine Country. Carthay ranges from very good to excellent depending on whats on the menu currently. Wine Country at night has had a seafood pasta dish that I also like. It's a toss up but Carthay would be my choice if you were only going to do one just for the overall experience.

Let me know if you need anything else.
 

Chef Mickey

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Sir, thank you so much for such a detailed response. I will print this out and keep your suggestions in mind. We are making dining reservations and will try Blue Bayou.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Don't have high expectations for the food at Bayou, it's just okay (and very expensive). You're paying for the environment, so keep that in mind.
 

JillC LI

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How early can I show up and can I leave after the fact after "claiming" our seats?

Same for World of Color.

I do not believe you can "claim" your spot then leave and expect your spot to still be available. Once you arrive, plan to stay for the duration of the wait and show.
 

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