Disney Buying LucasFilm! WHOA

puntagordabob

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The Marvel and Lucas deal more or less guarantees that Iger can ride off into the sunset in 2015, which is good for him and what really appeals to him, but the previous failures under his watch is much more costly to Disney than the losses on John Carter. Just my humble opinion..

John Carter was a great movie... it did very well in foreign markets.... only here in North America where the Disney Marketing itself was like it was from Mars did the movie do poorly....

Hopefully they will give it another go down the road..... and also slow down and explain more.....the book series is quite long.....shame it wasnt marketed better.
 

DocMcHulk

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That's for sure. But I worry (and so do some in the company) that Disney could have TWO huge disasters on its hands next year in Oz and Lone Ranger. I worry more about the former than the latter.
I'm actually more worried about Lone Ranger than Oz. I feel like Oz is different, while I've seen movies like Lone Ranger before in many different ways. Is Johnny Depp enough to save Lone Ranger? Maybe.
 

JustInTime

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That's for sure. But I worry (and so do some in the company) that Disney could have TWO huge disasters on its hands next year in Oz and Lone Ranger. I worry more about the former than the latter. But those films are costing a small fortune to make and market, which means they need to make a big fortune to actually be successful. Iger can gush over Iron Man 3 (which everyone will also think is a Paramount film due to the agreement when Disney bought distribution rights), but it can be another Avengers (which it won't) and the Studios will be a disaster if those two others bomb.

I can't see Oz flopping. I just can't picture it. Lone Ranger, however, seems destine to flop.
 

wiigirl

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I can't see Oz flopping. I just can picture it. Lone Ranger, however, seems destine to flop.

I can see it as a ride or something, but not a park.
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erasure fan1

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I agree. I meant 'they' will tell it better as being Lucasfilms being under Disney and the Lucasfilms people being able to do what they have probably wanted to do for so long, rather than George Lucas who was fine holding them back. Of course, this will lead to some oversaturation, but it 'hopefully' will lead to better movies, exposure, etc.
I agree. Lucas seemed to be a my way or the highway type who wanted no part of any creative input from anyone. Only he knew what was best for star wars. That's why for me this is so great. If Disney can put the right creative people in charge and just step aside and let them do their thing, I can see great things coming from this. If Disney decides they want to make a bunch of direct to video garbage like they did in the past, complete failure in my eyes. I just don't see them paying 4 billion to not do whats best for the franchise.
 

Computer Magic

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Nice article from CNET.com I didn't know Coca-Cola's attempted to acquire Disney in 1982.

The Disney Way" often refers to the Disneyland employee handbook, which introduces staff ("cast members") to the values that embody Disney. But it should also refer to Disney's habit of making bold acquisitions and turning them into home runs.

The Walt Disney Company just sent shockwaves through the entertainment, tech, media, and finance worlds with its $4 billion blockbuster acquisition of Lucasfilm, the creators and owners of the "Indiana Jones" and "Star Wars" franchises. Lucasfilm has also provided the visual effects for countless blockbusters, including "The Avengers" (a Disney franchise), "The Hunger Games," and "Pirates of the Caribbean" (another Disney franchise).

And in very Disney-like fashion, the entertainment giant also announced "Star Wars: Episode VII" for 2015, with Episodes VIII and IX waiting in the wings.

The acquisition isn't all that surprising though, if you take a step back and look at the big picture that is The Walt Disney Company. After Coca-Cola's unsuccessful attempt to acquire Disney in 1982 (it acquired Columbia Pictures instead) and Saul Steinberg's failed buyout in 1984, Disney started making a steady stream of high-profile acquisitions. Let's check out the timeline of some of Disney's most important buyouts in the last two decades:

•1993: Miramax Films
•1996: Capital Cities/ABC (including ESPN)
•1996: Baseball's Anaheim Angels (renamed the LA Angels of Anaheim in 2005)
•2001: Fox Family Network (now ABC Family)
•2001: Saban Entertainment (owners of the "Power Rangers" series)
•2004: The Muppets (but not Sesame Street)
•2006: Pixar
•2007: New Horizon Interactive (creators of Club Penguin, now called Disney Online Studios Canada)
•2009: Marvel Entertainment
•2010: Playdom
•2012: Lucasfilm
Of those 12 acquisitions, 2 have been sold (Miramax and the Anaheim Angels), and 1 saw some of its assets sold (Saban Entertainment). The rest are still part of The Walt Disney family.

Let's focus on the other eight acquisitions. Out of that list, I would say that one of those acquisitions was a failure -- New Horizon Interactive, whose Club Penguin failed to meet its targets. We have yet to see how the Playdom acquisition will play out ("Gardens of Time" and its Marvel-based games are doing OK, but social gaming is just down in general), and of course we can't make a judgment on Lucasfilm yet.

However, the rest of Disney's acquisitions are thriving. Marvel's "The Avengers" is Disney's biggest success yet, and Marvel is poised to make billions with the "Iron Man," "Captain America," "Hulk," and "Thor" franchises. Pixar ranks among the best acquisitions of all time (Disney got a moneymaking machine and Steve Jobs). The new Muppets film was a financial success. ABC Family has found recent success with "Kyle XY," "10 Things I Hate About You," and "The Secret Life of an American Teenager." And let's not forget ABC itself, which was worth its weight in gold, if only because of the outrageous success of ESPN.


Disney knows how to grow its Kingdom.

(Credit: Disney) Six out of eight of its major acquisitions are outright successes. That's a batting average that Google could only dream of obtaining.

Acquiring great properties and plugging them into the Disney system is simply something that the entertainment giant excels at. As a result, Disney's market cap has nearly tripled in a decade, to $90 billion.

This is why I have absolute confidence that Disney will successfully leverage its acquisition of Lucasfilm into a multibillion dollar success story. It gains two incredibly valuable franchises ("Star Wars" and "Indiana Jones"), the best visual effects team in the business (Industrial Light & Magic), and a proven game studio (LucasArts). Disney knows what to do with these assets, and it has one of the most powerful merchandising operations on the planet. If you thought Lucasfilm did a good job with merchandising, just wait until Disney works its magic.

This is how Disney does business -- this is how Disney grows. It doesn't make a lot of acquisitions, but when it does, they're big and they're very successful. The Disney Way is alive and well.
 

BrightImagine

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John Carter was a great movie... it did very well in foreign markets.... only here in North America where the Disney Marketing itself was like it was from Mars did the movie do poorly....

Hopefully they will give it another go down the road..... and also slow down and explain more.....the book series is quite long.....shame it wasnt marketed better.

I liked John Carter too... when I got around to seeing it on DVD. The marketing was so bewildering and terrible that I waited. I wish that story had benefitted from the approach given to the Marvel superheroes... a cumulative buildup and excellent marketing. John Carter, the movie, doesn't deserve its reputation. I think about how I would like to see a sequel, and then feel sad.
 

wdw71fan

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people seem to be missing the fact that Lucas was planning on Kathleen Kennedy making 3 more films after he retired from Lucasfilm, regardless of whether or not Disney bought Lucasfilm..

The movies were being made either way...
 

kucarachi

Active Member
Well this also means they get the Indiana Jones series as well right? I think then they would want to start the Indiana Jones series all over again as well? I don't see a whole theme park built on Indiana though, Star Wars could justify it's own theme park though..or at the very least a Disney Resort. But i can't see them putting anything in AK or Epcot, DHS is getting supposedly getting carsland so i don't see it going there...and magic kingdom just took on a massive makeover..so where would these rides go?
 

JustInTime

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people seem to be missing the fact that Lucas was planning on Kathleen Kennedy making 3 more films after he retired from Lucasfilm, regardless of whether or not Disney bought Lucasfilm..

The movies were being made either way...

Yep. Lucas was banking on finishing the films. But ultimately involving Disney is the best way to go.
 

ciscobee

Member
I agree with whoever said it first. Indiana Jones will become a major player in DHS and not just a theater show. Meanwhile, Star Wars ... I can see that becoming it's own park/land somewhere. Honestly it would be a great competitor for Harry Potterville and there are lots of ride possibilities due to the # of vehicles in Star Wars. The merchandising base alone could sustain a park. Plus star wars has all of these baked in things that fit well in shopping and eating environments, not just rides. Cantina anyone? Seems like it fits so well and Disney Imagineering is probably chomping at the bit to get this assignment. My bet is the Universal folks will try to give a shot in the arm to HPville or CityWalk to compete. Could make for some nice theme park wars in the area. :)
 

twebber55

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Zero chance it ever is its own park... definitely see its own expanded land in DHS though..cant wait to see that but im guessing sometime around 2017
 

wayneway

Member
Right. But if you put Carsland on hold to build Star Wars, you get Avatar and Star Wars.
Let's hope all three are in the works...In the pic below we can see that there is plenty of room in DHS for Star Wars and Carsland...If they are getting close to closing voyage of the little mermaid then muppets could be relocated there and upgraded...right?

DHS SW PLC.JPG
 

jam814

Member
I liked John Carter too... when I got around to seeing it on DVD. The marketing was so bewildering and terrible that I waited. I wish that story had benefitted from the approach given to the Marvel superheroes... a cumulative buildup and excellent marketing. John Carter, the movie, doesn't deserve its reputation. I think about how I would like to see a sequel, and then feel sad.
I agree with ya. I saw it on blue ray and it was good. deffinitly deserved a better marketing plan. to bad that they most likely wont risk attempting a sequal though. its unfortunate cause it did extremely well oversees but was destined to fail with that budget and no name recognition or decent marketing. any ways I think Andrew Stanton should get a crack at one of these new SW films. Lets see what he can do with a film that has name recognition and isnt going to be drowned by terrible marketing
 

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