And in regard to population just being a number, look at WDW over the next two weeks….
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‘We’re putting people who are visiting Disney in danger.’ Firefighters say they are short-handed at theme park
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Goofyernmost
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Because the vast majority of people in a theme park are of good to excellent health. Cities have homeless, poor elderly and many other that are just to ill to go to a theme park and walk 10 miles a day. The likelihood of a need for EMS is very low in WDW. Not impossible but low. As I stated before most would be falls or fatigue. It isn't the same. Even in cities with many EMS units there have been times when the wait was almost or definitely too long.
The land space in WDW is often compared with Manhattan, NY. 40+square miles. The population of Manhattan is 1.6 million and that's just at night, during the day when people go into the city to work it probably doubles. What Disney has, based on first the seriousness of the problem and the numbers of people and issues over all, is adequate. Can they add a few more people to the staffing, probably, but that is true with any service such as this. This is just an over reaction to a statement made by a union leader to apply leverage. It is not a real problem anymore than it is in the real world.
Whippet Mom
Active Member
I was there when that happened. Thankful I had just got off at the Contemporary 10 minutes before the next Monorail broke down..
RollerCoaster
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30,000 calls a year? I’m calling BS. That’s an average of 3.42 calls per hour.
2014 was 26733 calls so not impossible.
You have no idea as to the health of the “vast majority” of anyone, anywhere….
hosekiller
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With all due respect, you’re way off base. The idea that people at a theme park are any different than the people outside a theme park is so far in left field that it might as well be on Mars. I would agree that WDW has fewer homeless than most cities, but how does that factor into the equation? EMS doesn’t discriminate or treat people differently based on any sort of demographic, a person is a person. I spent 10 years working on an ambulance in a busy urban system, and the rich experienced medical emergencies just as much as the poor. Also, the amount of complaining in the tram tracker thread along with the number of times I’ve been personally run over by an ECV in the parks suggest your position that people in the parks are self sufficient is completely unfounded.
I generally wouldn’t call myself a union guy. I’m not anti union, but I would also agree we are past the days of paying kids 50 cents a day to change spools of thread in the mills. However, the union’s position is that they’re not meeting benchmarks. Based on my experience in the business as it were and what I’ve observed, the union isn’t off base. It appears that the guys are working their tails off but still aren’t meeting acceptable levels of care.
hosekiller
Well-Known Member
I can show you a CAD screen that would make you think 3.42 calls per hour is a very low estimation.
GoofTroop80
Member
It's funny watching the people that are clueless about public safety and love the mouse bash RCFD over very justified concerns. RCFD aren't the bad guys here. Some of you need to lay off the pixie dust
Free service of EMS to guests/ cast including transport and not being charged and that's what is going to happen.
dovetail65
Well-Known Member
From September through November 2021, the Orange County Fire Rescue dispatched 33 calls to Reedy Creek's coverage area.(quote from article)
They may have been getting phone calls, but not 30,000 emergency calls where they were dispatched to go out, that is for sure. It seems like they go out once every other day to me. 33 dispatches in 60 days was stated in a recent article, unless I misread that somehow.
hosekiller
Well-Known Member
Just to clarify, you’re saying if they started billing call volume would decrease because people wouldn’t want to pay for a ride? If so, that’s not true. The service I used to work for constantly has most of their units in the street. These days, they usually have all of their units in the streets, and they charge an arm and a leg for a basic transport.
in the almost decade that I worked for this service, I NEVER saw a time where there were no active calls, even in the early morning hours. 3 active calls was considered a lull in the madness.
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Yes, because people love to go to Disney to
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ride in an ambulance for free.
Get real.
hosekiller
Well-Known Member
I don’t have access to RCID’s data, but “in the industry”, a call is where someone goes to help someone, whether it’s a fire, a medical, or a cat in the tree (yes, that really happens). A call doesn’t refer to how many times a phone rings in the dispatch center. For example, a single call often has several people reporting it to 911, but that counts as a single call for service. And for a jurisdiction of that size, 30k is not unreasonable to expect.
So you're saying that there's a subset of people who can afford a WDW vacation, but can't afford to go to a doctor?
I believe it. I just don't believe people would willingly damage a Disney vacation to get a free ambulance ride and ER visit. Especially when an ER visit would normally only take care of the immediate issue, and not be a full health check.
Also, with your previous comment about CM's, they don't normally go to a hospital (other than major injuries, like when I had my spine injured) - they go to their in-house health services office behind Epcot, which Disney owns and operates.
Goofyernmost
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I'm glad that you do so you can correct me. Thanks! Use common sense!
flynnibus
Premium Member
This reeks of 'it could happen' vs 'its happening and its a problem'