OLC announces 2 new rides for Disney Seas?

adr315

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Im hearing that the Oriental Land Company announced a $70 million looping, themed roller coaster, and a $180 Tower of Terror ride for Disney Seas... any truth to this rumor?
 

pheneix

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This is 100% true. Here is some artwork on DisneySea's version of the Tower of Terror:

http://www.asahi.com/business/update/0312/120.html

I don't know much about the coaster, but by all accounts DisneySea's version of TOT will absolutely blow away the original in Florida, and will make the cut-down version going into DCA even more pitiful.

It's hard to believe that as Disney practically gives the torch to Universal in America that across the pacific OLC is making a strong campaign to make DisneySea the greatest theme park ever built.
 

adr315

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Originally posted by pheneix
This is 100% true. Here is some artwork on DisneySea's version of the Tower of Terror:

http://www.asahi.com/business/update/0312/120.html

I don't know much about the coaster, but by all accounts DisneySea's version of TOT will absolutely blow away the original in Florida, and will make the cut-down version going into DCA even more pitiful.

It's hard to believe that as Disney practically gives the torch to Universal in America that across the pacific OLC is making a strong campaign to make DisneySea the greatest theme park ever built.

Do you think they'll keep the Twilight Zone theme? or give it a completely new theme?
 

adr315

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Could this coaster be the "Jungle Coaster" that was proposed for both Hong Kong Disneyland and Epcot's Project Gemini? The theme would be perfect for the spot between Indy and Sinbad.....
 

CTXRover

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Originally posted by pheneix

I don't know much about the coaster, but by all accounts DisneySea's version of TOT will absolutely blow away the original in Florida, and will make the cut-down version going into DCA even more pitiful.

You are probably right. The Oriental Land company gives the imagineers all the money they would ever need. However, I assume the same imaginneering group is responsible for the Florida and DCA one, so I wouldn't expect a lot more. It will probably be very similar to both, with possibly more intricate special effects (but it would be hard to beat the themeing of Florida's)

In regards to DCA's being "pitiful", I will have to wait and see when it is done before making a judgement. They did take out the horizontal moving part (which is what I think makes this ride extraordinary), but the "new effect" being added is supposed to more than compensate. We will have to see. I wonder if Tokyo's version will have the horizontal motion or not.
 

WeirdOne

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Originally posted by CTXRover
You are probably right. The Oriental Land company gives the imagineers all the money they would ever need. However, they are the same imaginneering group responsible for the Florida and DCA one, so I wouldn't expect a lot more. It will probably be very similar to both, with possibly more intricate special effects (but it would be hard to beat the themeing of Florida's)

In regards to DCA's being "pitiful", I will have to wait and see when it is done before making a judgement. They did take out the horizontal moving part (which is what I think makes this ride extraordinary), but the "new effect" being added is supposed to more than compensate. We will have to see. I wonder if Tokyo's version will have the horizontal motion or not.

QUite contrary, the OLC has their own Imagineering division, WDAJ responsible for WDI in Japan. I would expect a hell of a lot more in my opinion. As for the look, I think it looks like the Haunted Mansion in New York, it looks so much better than Florida's.

As for the movement. The art suggests DCA version, but the models suggest WDW showbuilding with 5th dimension but like 3x bigger. - The WeirdOne :D
 

CTXRover

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Originally posted by WeirdOne
QUite contrary, the OLC has their own Imagineering division, WDAJ responsible for WDI in Japan. I would expect a hell of a lot more in my opinion. As for the look, I think it looks like the Haunted Mansion in New York, it looks so much better than Florida's.

Oh, sorry. I didn't know that they had their own imagineering division. I just assumed that they were the same from what I've read elsewhere. In that regards, I apologize for any misunderstanding on my part. Thanks for clearing that up! :)

Do the two different divisions work with each other though? I would think a good way to get a sense of how they change/improve things would be to compare their Indy ride with Disneyland's? (I honestly know very little about Tokyo's ride, but they sound like they are similar. If they aren't, just disregard my question). Of course, I've heard a lot about how their Pooh ride is superior to ours, so I guess that gives us a sense of what they can do.
 

WeirdOne

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No need to appologize, just giving you information. The two departements work somewhat closely with WDI being sent over to WDAJ for pretty much every project (and trust me, many WDI fight to be sent there).

Well, the DisneySea park was designed entirely by WDI, not WDAJ for some reason, so, the Indiana Jones rides are very very similar in nature with more cosmetic work done to the Tokyo version. As for Pooh's Hunny Hunt, compare trackless 3-d animatronic, fiber optic, movie, bouncing, backwards, bumper cars, and wonderful themeing to flats and one animatronic and track. Well, Tokyo wins. - The WeirdOne :D
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by pheneix
This is 100% true. Here is some artwork on DisneySea's version of the Tower of Terror:

http://www.asahi.com/business/update/0312/120.html

It's hard to believe that as Disney practically gives the torch to Universal in America that across the pacific OLC is making a strong campaign to make DisneySea the greatest theme park ever built.

LOL Pheneix, you never miss a chance to put the boot into Disney! You really are in the wrong website you know, you would be far more suited to a Universal website. When Universal has anywhere near the amount of visitors that Disney has in the USA I will agree they have handed the torch over. But as it stands now, it isnt even close.
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by WeirdOne

As for the movement. The art suggests DCA version, but the models suggest WDW showbuilding with 5th dimension but like 3x bigger. - The WeirdOne :D

Yeah the concept art is definately lacking the 5th dimension, appears to be DCA with a different exterior. It would make sense that the 3 new ToTs use the same ride system (DCA, DLP and Tokyo). Tokyos exterior looks amazing, great job :)
 

WeirdOne

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Well Steve, remember, ar tis frequently misleading. The models have a giant showbuilding out back about 2x or so as large as Tower Of Terror in Florida and much much higher. - The WeirdOne :D
 

wdwmagic

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Originally posted by WeirdOne
Well Steve, remember, ar tis frequently misleading. The models have a giant showbuilding out back about 2x or so as large as Tower Of Terror in Florida and much much higher. - The WeirdOne :D

Excellent, I hope they get the model version! :) Do you have any photos of the model?
 

WeirdOne

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Well, the only one I can share is the one in the Imagineering book in the TDS model. Otherwise, I'm risking contacts, not to mention they watch me very closely. Sorry Steve. - The WeirdOne :D
 

grandmath

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Heeem, the model is 6 to 7 years old, when they knew they would build a TOT in Disney sea (planned for opening but then delayed) but when the new DCA/WDS design wasn't even Imagineered :animwink:

But the concept art looks brand new to me, it will be the final design and should be less than one year old. And it clearly shows a DCA-TOT type ride. Than means no horizontal movment. But!! i'm confident that the experience will be better than in florida... from the news I have on the new TOT being built around the world, the dropping technology is pretty new and the ride will be even more scary. And the new effect has really been invented to compensate for the half-successfull 5th dimension effect, it wasn't just for cost cutting reasons. Trust me, if they spent 175 million $ which is more than the first one, for a ride without horizontal movement, it means the new effect is really better, otherwise they would have kept the old effect. But we can be assured of better special effects, as good scenery and maybe new show elements.
 

WeirdOne

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Originally posted by grandmath
Heeem, the model is 6 to 7 years old, when they knew they would build a TOT in Disney sea (planned for opening but then delayed) but when the new DCA/WDS design wasn't even Imagineered :animwink:

But the concept art looks brand new to me, it will be the final design and should be less than one year old. And it clearly shows a DCA-TOT type ride. Than means no horizontal movment. But!! i'm confident that the experience will be better than in florida... from the news I have on the new TOT being built around the world, the dropping technology is pretty new and the ride will be even more scary. And the new effect has really been invented to compensate for the half-successfull 5th dimension effect, it wasn't just for cost cutting reasons. Trust me, if they spent 175 million $ which is more than the first one, for a ride without horizontal movement, it means the new effect is really better, otherwise they would have kept the old effect. But we can be assured of better special effects, as good scenery and maybe new show elements.

I'm refering that this art and models that are the same age resting in WDAJ are contradictory. The models I have seen are 1/2 a year to 1 year old and clearly show showbuildings out back. The art suggests the opposite. We'll see. - The WeirdOne :D
 

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