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  1. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    Your point is well taken, and it was somewhat in error that I related Figment to the characters in Small World, Mansion, etc. Clearly, Figment is a more clearly defined character than any in those other attractions. But my point was more that attractions with original characters can be just as...
  2. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    Give the Marketeers 10 years or so... But even now, most of the new stuff isn't for all members of the family, they are for specific age groups. We have thrills for the teens, and cartoons for the kiddies, and a few leftover movies that we haven't removed yet that grandma can enjoy. But...
  3. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    That's what I would like to see, but I'm pretty sure the pendulum will swing in favor of the character stuff for quite some time. It's just making them too much money, and they just don't care about anything else anymore. I predict we'll see a few unique rides over the next few years, but...
  4. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    I'm sure they would, but I'm not talking about the Disney brand as a whole - I mean the individual brands of EPCOT, Animal Kingdom, etc. Of course, that's part of the problem - they parks are no longer seen as individual brands. They sell the place as some generic "Disney Parks", so they...
  5. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    Totally agree - but here's the rub: The cartoon crap actually does sell. Disney has managed to tap into the same market that loves to buy those horrible Disney sequels. The theme parks have become nothing but places to take the kids - it's not about entertaining the whole family anymore...
  6. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    Well, I would disagree. He has become the defacto representative of EPCOT - they use him on quite a lot of EPCOT-specific merchandise. So, like I said, he may not be as well-know as Pirates, Small World or the others, but he isn't exactly unknown either. And Disney has never promoted EPCOT...
  7. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    You're still missing my point - I'm not talking about success in comparison to characters created for movies and cartoons. I agree with you - he is nowhere as well known as Mickey or even Stitch. And he doesn't sell as much crap either. BUT, he is something unique to EPCOT - like Small...
  8. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    In this case, I mean that Figment is a well recognized character by people that attend Disney parks. He isn't quite as well know as Pirates, Small World etc, but he is still a well known creation. Unfortunately, like I said earlier, Disney all but destroyed the attraction that he was created...
  9. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    I agree with you, but where did I ask for epic length dark rides? Just because I enjoyed the offerings of the original EPCOT park doesn't mean that I think that's all that should ever be there. And for what it's worth, EPCOT Center was not designed soley with the intention to "just make...
  10. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    I really don't see what the problem with understanding is here - Figment IS a successful character, whether you seem to understand that or not. Unfortunately, Disney destroyed the attraction that made him so, and had to rush him back in as a "quick-fix" when the attraction that replaced him...
  11. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    I'm sorry, would you mind pointing out where I said that Figment was successful OUTSIDE of EPCOT? I seemed to have missed it - just like you've missed my point. The point was that an original character like Figment grows the EPCOT-brand, and entices people to come to EPCOT, the only place in...
  12. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    Exactly! When you think about how successful park-unique characters like Figment are, you would think they would want to add even more! They could have easily come-up with a unique fish character to "sell" the idea of The Living Seas, and expanded the Disney-brand. But instead, they take...
  13. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    There is a whole new generation behind us (in my case, several probably), and things aren't what they used to be. Disney is changing because the world is changing. You may not like it, but it's happening. I'm really not sure where you got that I am somehow against change. In fact, I cited...
  14. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    I was thinking about Living with the Land the other day, and I think the only thing that ride needs is a new ending. Scratch that, it also needs the "Listen to the Land" song back. I'd like to see them add the song at the beginning of the attraction again, and then have musical versions...
  15. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    Well, that's somewhat a matter of opinion, of which we have no real proof. But from my perspective, people stopped coming to EPCOT because Disney stopped investing in the place for quite a while. After Wonders was added, Disney really didn't do much of anything with EPCOT until they closed...
  16. plpeters70

    When will SSE be finished?

    While I agree with almost all of your post, I wanted to comment on this line. Wouldn't you agree that because WDW has four theme parks now, it would be better to have varied experiences at the parks? The WDW parks are becoming almost carbon copies of one another - with slightly different...
  17. plpeters70

    Leave a Legacy Steals Souls!

    Looking at these two pictures, there's just no question for me -- the trees and grass just look so much nicer. I really hope Disney decides to go back to this soon!!
  18. plpeters70

    Leave a Legacy Steals Souls!

    Exactly. I wish I had some example pictures of the entrance plaza past/present to show you the difference, but it's definitely there. The whole plaza is just less vibrant than it used to be -- you'd be amazed the difference some green grass can make to its surroundings.
  19. plpeters70

    Leave a Legacy Steals Souls!

    Here's my biggest problem with the stones -- they darken what was once a very bright and cheerful entrance. You've got this gigantic, gray ball towering over you and then nothing but brown all around it... :hurl: When the entrance was all trees and grass, Spaceship Earth looked bright and...
  20. plpeters70

    SSE Reviews

    WHAT??!! Why would they take that out?? That thing couldn't have cost anything to light-up, and what's there now? Blank space???
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