Daveeeeed
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Easily the best simulator on Earth. The second cannot even be close.
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Bairstow
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The plot thickens!
https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40641830
https://www.google.com/amp/www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/40641830
ford91exploder
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A kind videographer friend in LA recorded it in HD for me, So yes I've seen it but not in person but it looks 1000x better than it did the last time I saw it at WDW in 2015, no dead strings of bulbs... no peeling finshes. No I will not be publishing the video, my friend gets PAID for his work does not give it away.
ford91exploder
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Flight Safety, NASA and the DoD/MoD would probably disagree with you. I've done the one at Flight Safety takes you about 10 seconds to forget you are not in a real aircraft.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Translation the guy who had BEEN Kermit for 27 years disagreed with Iger's vision of Kermit, Yup that fits with what Disney has been doing to it's creatives the last decade or so.
Bairstow
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Getting canned for disobeying your bosses isn't a phenomena unique to Disney, or the last decade.
Do you really think Iger was micro-managing Kermit the Frog? In addition to personally dictating edits to the Star Wars movies? In addition to designing Toy Story Land? I'm addition to mandating specific ESPN layoffs? In addition to engineering the stock bayback strategy? Move over, Walt, this dude has to be the most hands-on CEO of all time. How does he find time to sleep?
peter11435
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So no, that's what I thought.
I've seen it in person there and at WDW just before it left and no it doesn't look that much different. There are still issues. Regardless it needs to be retired.
I never asked to see the video. Nobody cares.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Did you actually WATCH the 'new' muppet show,
It bombed because it broke all the longstanding relationships between the Muppets (Kermit/Piggy being the BIG ONE) due to the SJW carp being forced down every Disney media channel and where does that come from Iger and his lieutenants.
It's no big surprise that a guy who has spent 27 years safeguarding the character handed to him by Jim Henson himself might have told the executives that they were damaging the integrity of the character.
As to all the things you list, Iger is probably only PERSONALLY responsible for the buyback strategy, the rest is directed by his team along guidelines set by Iger.
Disneyhead'71
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Getting canned for fighting for the artistic integrity of a creation after the corporate overlords buy it is also far too often the end result. True?
CaptainAmerica
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Disney have done right (for the most part) by Star Wars and Marvel, the two acquisitions with which I'm most familiar. I don't know enough about the history of the Muppets to offer a credible opinion as to whether that was the case here, but the creative disagreements that LucasFilm has had with folks like Josh Trank and Lord/Miller have actually been in defense of the legacy.
Disneyhead'71
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With the way the Muppet series turned out, I would guess that would be the opposite case here.
Usually in a he-said/he-said public battle between an employee and employer, the employer is at a disadvantage. Not only is it unprofessional to publicly air all the faults of the person you fired, it opens you up to lawsuits of defamation of character. So, most corporate policy is 'no comment' while the fired person can make up all sorts of stuff, or at least, give a very biased account of what happened.
If Jim Henson's daughter is publicly going after the fired employee, I assure you, it's against the advice of her lawyer.
If Jim Henson's daughter is publicly going after the fired employee, I assure you, it's against the advice of her lawyer.
asianway
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They sold out, what they say doesnt matter a whit.
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Quinnmac000
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Bairstow
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Depends on whether you view the Hensons as deplorable sellouts or not, I guess.
Disneyhead'71
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The Henson family has turned out to be a bit dysfunctional these days. And aren't faring all that well as stewards of The Jim Henson Co. Lots of false start projects going on over there. I do hope they get the Netflix Dark Crystal series going though.
EricsBiscuit
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I saw the parade at DL 3 times last week and at WDW over a couple hundred times. Granted the parade should be retired. But, I didn't notice any major difference other than some shuffling of the order, the "Disneyland Presents..." And the cut of the Pleasure Island Float balanced by the Petes Dragon float effects. I doubt a parade built for WDW in 1977 (I think that's when the WDW version debuted, but it was long ago) could survive 6 years everyday performing twice if it had poor maintenance. True I didn't see the floats in the day but I sure as hell didn't notice paint peeling or strands of lights out.
FOP is an amazing simulator. You can't expect your comment on it to have any weight if you have not experienced it.