MagicHappens1971
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That's what I'm saying, but several people are trying to say that it's not possible that they're going to doing that.
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MagicHappens1971
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I think as I already mentioned, that they will clone the show scenes as much as they can and retrofit the existing ride system.
Advisable Joseph
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There's no room for that, and Shanghai was already designed when the concept art was made, so differences were likely intentional.
There's such a thing as being too cynical.
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comics101
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There's a lot of places that an answer to this question could go, but simply put I believe that Marvel, Fox, and Lucasfilm were all unnecessary acquisitions that have diluted the Disney brand. Fox was the biggest mistake, though severe mismanagement/office politics at Lucasfilm is slowly killing Star Wars.
Essentially, the company has grown too big for its own good. There are too many competing visions with no single over-arching goal or purpose other than to "make money." The principles and ideas which created near-universal adoration are being abandoned for the easiest/quickest way to monetize product, and eventually it's going to cost them.
MagicHappens1971
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Oh my gosh. I feel like I’m trying to explain rocket science.
We are clearly not getting the full city that Shanghai is getting, but it is fully probable that they are going to gut the interior of Dinosaur and replace with, as close to a copy of the Shanghai Zootopia attraction.
MagicHappens1971
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I agree with you that there are so many places this answer could go, and it is super complex. For one, I don’t believe that the general public views Marvel or Star Wars as “Disney”. Especially not Fox. The Marvel films have aiding in financially supporting the company. I’ve been fighting this on here for weeks, but Star Wars is not dying. Yes the sequels had mixed reviews, but Mando, Andor, Obi-Wan, and Ashoka (to be released) have all been very popular and successful. I think if done right, the new films will create a real resurgence of the brand.
I wholeheartedly agree with this.
Advisable Joseph
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Again, the building where Dinosaur probably is is a train station, not the police station, so the ride will have a different theme, at least.
MagicHappens1971
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Gotcha. Time will tell.
If Zootopia must come to DAK I hope for a Avatar like treatment
Advisable Joseph
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And, for the peanut gallery, a page or so ago I mentioned that Lee wanted the exhibit to have Bunnyburrow, which doesn't fit the police chase.
I can't make any promises of course, but I think we can push to emphasize references to real animals more.
I can't make any promises of course, but I think we can push to emphasize references to real animals more.
comics101
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Whether the general public views Marvel/Lucas as Disney or not, Disney sure wants them to and is working overtime to make it happen. From Disney+ to Disney100 promotional materials and merchandise, it's clear that the company wants the world to know that it's all about Marvel, Star Wars, and Avatar (with a dash of Simpsons and Pixar on the side).
^^Which by the way, makes total sense from a financial/Wall Street point of view. Why promote *Disney* when Black Panther and Avatar each earn north of $1b at the box office? Why spend $$$ cultivating talent within WDAS or WDP when the company can just buy its way into profits via corporate takeover?
This is the "Disney Princess" model of branding. Each princess by herself has her own 'brand' and merchandising power, but put them all together and you have the *synergy* of "Disney Princess" which is more than the sum of its parts.
For each popular franchise that Disney can produce content -- for which some segment of the population is into -- then all those franchises together has the *synergy* of burnishing the "Disney Brand."
The "Disney Brand" can then demand premier pricing and get audiences to try new franchises or to settle for some content which is merely 'meh.' Things which a lesser content producer could not get away with.
BTW, the acquired Fox studios acquired accounted for 16 of the 22 Academy Award nominations this year. Disney now gets cachet for the adult and prestige content that it never had before.
matt9112
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yeah its absurd that this is the bar..... retheme and reuse as much as possible.....
aladdin2007
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I can see them slapping on a flat front city facade to the dinosaur building,,,yeah that would be just like them to do.
Disney Maddux
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Do we even know what the Shanghai ride system is?
MagicHappens1971
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Trackless, police chase. Don’t really know specifics aside from that. They’ve released very little details
But it doesn’t really matter as they can copy and paste show scenes and modify the ride vehicles movement
lazyboy97o
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To add to this, Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage and The Seas with Nemo and Friends are very different ride systems and yet share a lot in terms of their story and even some show effects. Overall show ideas and certain effects can be brought over. The EMV vehicles would work pretty well for a chase concept.
doctornick
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That doesn't really make any sense though. The main ride at Shanghai is an LPS trackless one very different from the ride setup for Dinosaur. We've recently been told that Zootopia was moving forward because they could build it "quickly" by replacing Dinosaur. If they have to gut Dinosaur and just use the walls to put in a new ride, that would probably be just as long and perhaps even longer than simply doing a new build.
I could certainly see some of the scenes being the same between Florida and Shanghai but it's very likely the ride experiences will be quite different.
MagicHappens1971
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This is what we were all saying. They wouldn't "gut" Dinosaur. They'd remove all the show scenes, replace them with the ones from or similar to the Shanghai attraction and reprogram the Dinosaur EMVs.
MagicHappens1971
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I slapped together a quick mockup of what they could do. Definitely not great, but it was super quick. Put the city facade a little further back than I have it in the picture, stick the train station top on top of the dinosaur building, and repaint/redesign the front of the Dinosaur building.