Winnie the Pooh's Hunny Hunt

peter11435

Well-Known Member
Winnie the pooh at Tokyo Disneyland does not have a magnetic track system. It uses GPS technology to move the vehicles around the building.
 

mathmagic

New Member
No guns for pooh

I don't think Disney would ever go for something that tied guns to Winnie the Pooh. Typically, Pooh is targeted to the youngest crowd, and I doubt that guns would go over well with their parents.
 

imagineer boy

Well-Known Member
mathmagic said:
I don't think Disney would ever go for something that tied guns to Winnie the Pooh. Typically, Pooh is targeted to the youngest crowd, and I doubt that guns would go over well with their parents.

Technically he's thinking about using the ride viecle technology of the Pooh ride in Tokyo with laser gun technology on the viecles like Buzz. To make some new dark ride with a new theme using those two technologies. :)
 

mathmagic

New Member
imagineer boy said:
Technically he's thinking about using the ride viecle technology of the Pooh ride in Tokyo with laser gun technology on the viecles like Buzz. To make some new dark ride with a new theme using those two technologies. :)
Actually, he did say there would be shooting at honey pots and bee hives, so Pooh themeing was part of the plan.
 

speck76

Well-Known Member
While the idea sounds good, the MK already has a Winnie the Pooh attraction and a shooting attraction, why do they need another?.....why not something "new"?
 

brisem

Well-Known Member
mathmagic said:
I don't think Disney would ever go for something that tied guns to Winnie the Pooh. Typically, Pooh is targeted to the youngest crowd, and I doubt that guns would go over well with their parents.


Totally agree with Mathmagic--there's no way Disney can have guns and Pooh. It's out of character for Pooh and the audience Pooh attracts.
 

winterparkbaby

New Member
I already feel like I am going against my beliefs when I let my daughter ride Buzz Lightyear. We have a strict no gun rule in our house, I call it a taser, but I know that I am not even kidding myself.


To have guns with Pooh would be crossing the line, I also think a flume ride for pooh would take it away from the young kids who love the current ride so much. It would have a height restriction that would cut out three and younger.
 

General Grizz

New Member
I think leaving the shooting at Buzz (and the Shootin' Arcade!) would be best. Shooting is what MAKES Buzz, so let's not detract from it.

However, Disney can defintiely benefit from the magnetic-tracks. I'd like to see something like this at the Imagination pavilion.

That is, the day when budget doesn't dictate magic.
 

speck76

Well-Known Member
General Grizz said:
However, Disney can defintiely benefit from the magnetic-tracks. I'd like to see something like this at the Imagination pavilion.

That is, the day when budget doesn't dictate magic.

But what major benefit does this technology (that I am assuming is more expensive) bring to the attraction? Is the benefit great enough that the general population will notice, or will like/enjoy the attraction more just because of the ride system.

A friend of mine is an architect in Detroit....they were building a new wing on the cancer hospital at the Detroit Medical Center. They had a certain budget....let's say $100million for a round number. The building, as originally designed, would have come in at $85million, so the architects added a bunch of designer items, like drawer pulls, lighting, and whatnot, so that they could get as close to that $100million number as possible. Does anyone notice the designer lighting or drawer pulls.....probably not....it is a cancer hospital, yet the items had a pretty hefty price tag.
 

General Grizz

New Member
speck76 said:
But what major benefit does this technology (that I am assuming is more expensive) bring to the attraction? Is the benefit great enough that the general population will notice, or will like/enjoy the attraction more just because of the ride system.

A friend of mine is an architect in Detroit....they were building a new wing on the cancer hospital at the Detroit Medical Center. They had a certain budget....let's say $100million for a round number. The building, as originally designed, would have come in at $85million, so the architects added a bunch of designer items, like drawer pulls, lighting, and whatnot, so that they could get as close to that $100million number as possible. Does anyone notice the designer lighting or drawer pulls.....probably not....it is a cancer hospital, yet the items had a pretty hefty price tag.
It's the "wow" factor that would actually (A) bring guests INTO the ride, (B) make the guests to reride, (C) make them want to come back to the parks. A great Imagination ride (with this track as ONE aspect) could do just that, and it would benefit Disney MUCH more than the current ride does. (Has anyone ever waited for it?)
 

speck76

Well-Known Member
General Grizz said:
It's the "wow" factor that would actually (A) bring guests INTO the ride, (B) make the guests to reride, (C) make them want to come back to the parks. A great Imagination ride (with this track as ONE aspect) could do just that, and it would benefit Disney MUCH more than the current ride does. (Has anyone ever waited for it?)

I agree that the technology is cool, but if a budget is $50million, and this system would cost a significant portion of that budget, is it worth it......would it be worth it to sacrifice other areas of the ride (story, special effects, other technology) to put in this system.

In a perfect world, they would increase the budget to $75million and make an all-around kick-butt attraction, but, this is not a perfect world, nor do I think it will be in the future.

Also, which part of the ride will influence the public's opinion the greatest....the technology or the story.......The problem now with JII is the story....the technology used is fine, the ride's story (IMO) sucks.
 

General Grizz

New Member
speck76 said:
I agree that the technology is cool, but if a budget is $50million, and this system would cost a significant portion of that budget, is it worth it......would it be worth it to sacrifice other areas of the ride (story, special effects, other technology) to put in this system.

In a perfect world, they would increase the budget to $75million and make an all-around kick-butt attraction, but, this is not a perfect world, nor do I think it will be in the future.

Also, which part of the ride will influence the public's opinion the greatest....the technology or the story.......The problem now with JII is the story....the technology used is fine, the ride's story (IMO) sucks.
The ride's story DOES suck. I'm saying, should Disney create a whole new experience, capturing the magic of the original, and translating it to new heights, Disney can create a killer story. I think the ride system should DEFINITELY go second, but I think guests will come off a ride with that amount of "show" and "courtesy" saying, "Holy crap, that was cool!"

Sometimes you do need to go over the top to make an amazing Disney experience. Tower of Terror didn't have a few cheap effects: it was a completely INNOVATIVE track system with detail and special effects that makes guests think: "How do they do that?" And it's the most popular at MGM and has been recreated around the world.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
Premium Member
mathmagic said:
I don't think Disney would ever go for something that tied guns to Winnie the Pooh. Typically, Pooh is targeted to the youngest crowd, and I doubt that guns would go over well with their parents.

But they could have oversized slingshots where you shoot little Stitches at all the Pooh characters.......or something.... :D
 

tigger248

Well-Known Member
speck76 said:
While the idea sounds good, the MK already has a Winnie the Pooh attraction and a shooting attraction, why do they need another?.....why not something "new"?

That's exactly what I was thinking. WDW already has Splash, Pooh, and Buzz. A combo of the three would be fun, but there really is no need to spend a huge sum of money to build something that WDW basically already has.
 

speck76

Well-Known Member
General Grizz said:
The ride's story DOES suck. I'm saying, should Disney create a whole new experience, capturing the magic of the original, and translating it to new heights, Disney can create a killer story. I think the ride system should DEFINITELY go second, but I think guests will come off a ride with that amount of "show" and "courtesy" saying, "Holy crap, that was cool!"

Sometimes you do need to go over the top to make an amazing Disney experience. Tower of Terror didn't have a few cheap effects: it was a completely INNOVATIVE track system with detail and special effects that makes guests think: "How do they do that?" And it's the most popular at MGM and has been recreated around the world.

Maybe they should knock it down and start from scratch. As I had previously stated in regards to WoL, if they continue to refurbish it, they are somewhat stuck with the limitations of the current facility, but if they knock it down, they can start from scratch, and from their, the only limit is the budget.

I am not so sure on how "marketable" Imagination is. Mission Space and Test Track were based on physical things.....Imagination is not a physical thing......how can it be marketed? How can Disney get good ROI from something like Imagination?

Not to drift too far, but I think one thing that Epcot has done over the last 10 years is that they have turned the E-ticket pavilions into a more diverse C/D/E-ticket area.....or in better terms, they went from having a buch of major attractions, to a selection of major and minor attractions.

Mission Space, Test Track, SSE, HISTA, and soon Soarin' are major attractions. UoE, TLS, JII, LWtL.....they have been lowered down to minor attractions. TLS is a possible exception, each part of it would be considered a minor attraction, but the sum of the parts is greater than the attraction as a whole.....if one has the patience to see each of the parts.
 

Not For Sale

Active Member
I guess I'm the only person who just wants a direct clone of Tokyo's version. From what I hear from the people who rode, it sounds amazing. And from what I see in the videos it looks incredible. If WDW has to recieve a clone in the next coming years, this is it.
 

speck76

Well-Known Member
Not For Sale said:
I guess I'm the only person who just wants a direct clone of Tokyo's version. From what I hear from the people who rode, it sounds amazing. And from what I see in the videos it looks incredible. If WDW has to recieve a clone in the next coming years, this is it.

THEY ALREADY HAVE A POOH RIDE!

Why replace a Pooh ride that is already one of the more popular FL attractions, when SO MUCH ELSE in the MK could use attention?
 

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