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Will Trump be reelected?

Will Trump be reelected?

  • Yes

    Votes: 31 54.4%
  • No

    Votes: 26 45.6%

  • Total voters
    57

mkt

I Demand a Snackrifice
#61
I think he's gonna win, not because he's good - he's terrible and I despise him and his administration - but because the dems have yet to accept that Americans were frustrated with how things were in Washington, and their insistence on sticking to party loyalty and party orthodoxy.
 

aw14

Well-Known Member
#62
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I would agree. I am not a big fan...but the Dems pushing too far left and playing the "sky is falling" routine, isn't winning anyone back.
 

mkt

I Demand a Snackrifice
#64
I would agree. I am not a big fan...but the Dems pushing too far left and playing the "sky is falling" routine, isn't winning anyone back.
I disagree on the "too far left", because a candidate that pushed the republicans further to the right and into isolationism won.

Further left with the same America-first mentality (but who considers consequences) and away from neoliberalism would destroy Trump. Unfortunately, the dems seem to be ok with things as they were before Trump and see no reason to change to battle him.
 

aw14

Well-Known Member
#65
I disagree on the "too far left", because a candidate that pushed the republicans further to the right and into isolationism won.

Further left with the same America-first mentality (but who considers consequences) and away from neoliberalism would destroy Trump. Unfortunately, the dems seem to be ok with things as they were before Trump and see no reason to change to battle him.
I couldn’t disagree more. Using far left as my ideal, I’m speaking of an American version. There is no way that a Bernie Sanders type will win in a general election.
 

mkt

I Demand a Snackrifice
#66
I couldn’t disagree more. Using far left as my ideal, I’m speaking of an American version. There is no way that a Bernie Sanders type will win in a general election.
The thing is, Bernie isn't far left - he's just left. He's European Social Democrat left.

Far left is Chavez, Maduro. Bernie's nowhere near that far gone.
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
#69
Unfortunately, the dems seem to be ok with things as they were before Trump and see no reason to change to battle him.
Yes, and no. The democratic party has certainly changed in the past few years - it is why I had no choice but to #walkaway a couple of years ago myself and am now independent. The decent into pandering and identity politics (which as a gay man I witnessed first hand for years being used politically) has completely skewed the priorities of improving the lives of all Americans (and in fact seem most concerned about non-citizens above everyone else).

That leads into where I agree with your point - and it is one that actually scares me the most - is where people seem entirely focused on Trump Trump Trump...that they don't realize how bad things already were in the world, that they are so focused on one person like suddenly he came and crapped on some happy parade we were all living. They don't understand that Trump was elected because there were already so many problems and the status quo needed to be shattered.


In regards to the OP - yes, I think that if things continue he will be reelected. Mostly because the democratic party has no viable alternative and they will never agree upon one. We saw a preview of this during the last election. And that was two years ago. Things have gotten so much more inflamed since then when it comes to identity politics that the democratic party has fractured itself so deeply that I don't see how they will ever unify behind a single candidate enough to get them elected.
 

mkt

I Demand a Snackrifice
#70
Yes, and no. The democratic party has certainly changed in the past few years - it is why I had no choice but to #walkaway a couple of years ago myself and am now independent.
I literally rejoined the party for the upcoming primaries this week, but the second I leave the polling station, it's 5 minutes to update to NPA (no party affiliation) online.
 
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