This is a bit off-topic, but I have a question: wasn't Brazil under dictatorship for 21 years, up until 1985?
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Where should I put my Disney park??
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Stratofarius
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Unfurtonately, it was, military dictatorship. It was a sad time of our nation.
MarkTwain
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A LOT of Latin American countries faced some political instabilities in the mid 20th century, even historically more stable ones like Chile, Argentina, and yes, Brazil. Fortunately, most are now back on their feet, so to speak (while a few, like Cuba, are not).
My main concern is actually if this military dictatorship has cut off anything Disney there, like how World War II had cut off the European markets for Disney. I noticed, however, the covers for some Brazilian Disney comics from around this time. So what happened?
Actually, one of my major decisions in where to put a park is not population, but the release (and re-release) dates of Disney movies (mainly animated) in those countries.
leggetinbluesky
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As an australian i thought i would share my thoughts on the australian element.
I think Disneyland Sydney or Melbourne could work. The problem is that in order for it to work it will need a lot of things to go its way but i would love nothing more than to be able to pop down the road in sydney and visit a disney park.
Your right witht he population, we are a very low populated country of only 21 million. However this could also work as most of the population is based in the cpaital cities on the coast which means that most of the people are in the one spot.
The problem would be where to find enough land in order to build that in a place that would be attractive for people to visit. The major cities are very built up and it is only on the outskirts that there would be enough land to build. In fact it means disney would probably have to turn a sleepy small suburb into a tourist place in order for it to work with hotels being built up around the park and the town basically existing as a function of supporting the park like certain mining towns are. This would probably not be the first time they would have to do this, the site for WDW was a empty place when Walt first went looking.
For example, in sydney i don't think you would find an area big enough for a park in the major populated area and would need to head west. There used to be a theme park out this way but it was in the middle of nowhere and slowly went bust (funnily enough featuring a land themed on the Hanna-Barbera cartoons so was a bit of a Disney ripoff). Transport to the area was poor, there was no large populated area around it where people could stay and if you were a tourist to sydney and stayed in the CBD it was about an hour to get there by bus. Of course the Disney name will have a bit more of an affect but i think this is a problem that could affect any theme park opening up in Australia althought the parks in the gold coast appear to be going alright but i don't know where you would put another one.
If a suitable location could be found in sydney (im bias) i think it would be a huge hit, Sydney gets a large number of tourists visiting it and i think the potential for stories and ideas for the park would come easily as we are very similar to you guys in the US. There was a rumour that the NSW govt and Disney Resorts were in talks about a park in a section directly on the harbour but this would have been small and i doubt Disney were that interested.
I think Disneyland Sydney or Melbourne could work. The problem is that in order for it to work it will need a lot of things to go its way but i would love nothing more than to be able to pop down the road in sydney and visit a disney park.
Your right witht he population, we are a very low populated country of only 21 million. However this could also work as most of the population is based in the cpaital cities on the coast which means that most of the people are in the one spot.
The problem would be where to find enough land in order to build that in a place that would be attractive for people to visit. The major cities are very built up and it is only on the outskirts that there would be enough land to build. In fact it means disney would probably have to turn a sleepy small suburb into a tourist place in order for it to work with hotels being built up around the park and the town basically existing as a function of supporting the park like certain mining towns are. This would probably not be the first time they would have to do this, the site for WDW was a empty place when Walt first went looking.
For example, in sydney i don't think you would find an area big enough for a park in the major populated area and would need to head west. There used to be a theme park out this way but it was in the middle of nowhere and slowly went bust (funnily enough featuring a land themed on the Hanna-Barbera cartoons so was a bit of a Disney ripoff). Transport to the area was poor, there was no large populated area around it where people could stay and if you were a tourist to sydney and stayed in the CBD it was about an hour to get there by bus. Of course the Disney name will have a bit more of an affect but i think this is a problem that could affect any theme park opening up in Australia althought the parks in the gold coast appear to be going alright but i don't know where you would put another one.
If a suitable location could be found in sydney (im bias) i think it would be a huge hit, Sydney gets a large number of tourists visiting it and i think the potential for stories and ideas for the park would come easily as we are very similar to you guys in the US. There was a rumour that the NSW govt and Disney Resorts were in talks about a park in a section directly on the harbour but this would have been small and i doubt Disney were that interested.
Crazy Harry
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flavious27
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I think that another park in Spain or Italy would fit the bill for europe having a more year round warm weather park.
Unfortunately, however, they are both too close to France, and that park is having troubles as it is. I did try my hand, on more than one occasion, at another European park, this one in Germany, but I stopped doing it after hearing about various legitimate concerns that spring up in my idea's path: proximity to France, climate, and various other things.
I guess Europe is simply too small a continent to merit a second resort there.
That would never work. They had their reasons to build it in France.
And actually, one of my main motives for a new park is not population, but rather something people here would consider a bit trivial: releases (and re-releases) of Disney films (mainly animated) in the country in question. Unfortunately, outside of Japan, I can't find any resources of movies released in Asia. Nor can I find any in the Middle East. Most resources of this type tend to limit the releases of films to Europe.
flavious27
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Agreed, unfortunately the countries near asia minor are not stable enough to invest a billion dollars for a theme park.
Twilight_Roxas
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How about Toronto Canada?
Canada would never work, either. It's too cold and snowy up there.
Twilight_Roxas
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and Some of the rides that are water rides could be replace.
I don't know what movies were released when up there, either.
flavious27
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Do you really think the Canadian government will want to work with disney?
If Disney would place a park so far north, they might as well just buy the 2,200 acres great adventures park and theme it into a disney resort. It has plenty of land, near the largest city in north america, and has a fairly large warm weather season.
ScorpionX
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You mean Six Flags Great Adventure? That's in New Jersey.
flavious27
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yes, six flags great adventure in jackson. Like I said, the weather is going to extend the warm weather and water park season in jackson longer than Toronto. The avg high temperature above 70 is only for 3 months in tor, there are 5 months for jackson; there are 3 months that the high temperature is below 40 in tor, only 1 for jackson.
If Disney is going to put a park in the north eastern part of NA, a location around NYC will make more sense than in Canada. Along with that, Jackson is an hour away from both philly international and newark. Adding to that, Six Flags just got out of bankruptcy, a purchase of great adventure would sure them up for awhile.
Now I doubt expect disney to build another park in NA while there is a lot to do at wdw and dlr. Also the only way that they would buy a park like great adventure would be if they get a great deal and the bean counters can show that it won't take away from wdw's attendance.
I don't want any other parks in North America. That includes Canada.