TikibirdLand
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And this is why EPCoT can't be properly fixed. It's also why my family can't stroll WS without seeing at least one drunk group ruining things for everyone. Don't get me started with all the food booths.
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WDW Ticket Price Increase
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
People fell for it years ago and celebrated (themselves) by going again and again…permanent festival with new merch rolled out every 2-4 months
I think there is some sort of gate? built at the entrance of the Epcot / Mexico pyramid. Back in the day, the drunks would climb the pyramid while being filmed by other guests.
aladdin2007
Well-Known Member
are passholder rates going up tonight? stitch ate the page on disneys site...just throwing that out there.
pdude81
Well-Known Member
renewal page is working for me, but it rightly says I'm not eligible.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
…well there had been some “speculation” That a price increase and reintroduction would come in February
vikescaper
Well-Known Member
It worked for me fine earlier in the day.
doctornick
Well-Known Member
I would wonder what percentage of DVC owners who have APs. I'm not sure its as high as you are implying; I think a number of DVC owners don't have a massive amount of point but have enough so they can go every 2-3 years via banking/borrowing but I have no idea.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
If they bought it for 3 years…they missed the entire point.
for what? A “grand villa” where you can cook lunch and do laundry?
…I don’t know DVC AP percentages…it’s not “Insignificant”…but not 50%…
but I think the gist of it is “buy our fabulous timeshares in the parking lots of our world class theme parks…where you can have the privilege of Paying $150…maybe $200…maybe $300 per day to get your 3 year old in”
hard kinda sell.
The recent price hike on APs has probably pushed a lot of them out of APs... but then again the recent price hike might push them back into APs. If I were a locked in DVC member with a decent amount of points I would probably get more value going once a year to disney and then selling some of the points to people to fund vacations to places that treat their guests better for less money.
Diamond Dot
Well-Known Member
But, capitalism is worshipped in the US.
Diamond Dot
Well-Known Member
As a 'lemming' as described by one poster on this thread, I'll just say the people still go to Disney for a variety of reasons. Many go in hope of a magical vacation and are, sadly disappointed because the commercials and the modern reality are poles apart, it's classic mis selling to people who don't do research on the products they buy. Many go simply to create content fodder for their social media pages, so called vloggers and the idiotic term 'influencers'. I would estimate 80 to 90% of these would never go to a family theme park if there were no social media or YouTube to post their needy narcissism on. If you look at when the numbers started exploding at Disney it is around the same time social media exploded. It correlates with the issue of young people suffering mental health issues.
I digress. This 'lemming ' cannot wait to go back, I'm prepared for what expect, including drunk and also aggressive entitled guests of all kinds, long lines at attractions and crowded parks, but, this has me planning a trip different to one I've done before, I shall try and do every attraction I like, even if it is just the once, I will queue for certain rides and prepare myself for a long wait at those. I will play it by ear. I shall eat out, browse shops, enjoy a Starbucks coffee and Ghiradelli ice cream sundae, a nice breakfast and dinner at TS restaurants and I get to go out in the evenings, all things I can't do in my everyday life. To be honest, the attractions play second fiddle to most of my plans.
I've paid my money and I've made my choices. And as I've paid my money then I'm entitled to exactly the same as anyone else at the park, so if the only table available is a four person one then I will take it if I already have my food, the lack of smaller tables is not my fault, so don't get uppity if I do.
I digress. This 'lemming ' cannot wait to go back, I'm prepared for what expect, including drunk and also aggressive entitled guests of all kinds, long lines at attractions and crowded parks, but, this has me planning a trip different to one I've done before, I shall try and do every attraction I like, even if it is just the once, I will queue for certain rides and prepare myself for a long wait at those. I will play it by ear. I shall eat out, browse shops, enjoy a Starbucks coffee and Ghiradelli ice cream sundae, a nice breakfast and dinner at TS restaurants and I get to go out in the evenings, all things I can't do in my everyday life. To be honest, the attractions play second fiddle to most of my plans.
I've paid my money and I've made my choices. And as I've paid my money then I'm entitled to exactly the same as anyone else at the park, so if the only table available is a four person one then I will take it if I already have my food, the lack of smaller tables is not my fault, so don't get uppity if I do.
Stocks will rise when capitalism prospers. My money invested in the markets, 401K, long term etc sets me and my family up for the future and my money is working harder then I do. I see no issue with that. With some of the profits , I use that to enjoy a vacation at WDW as one example. Count me in as a capitalism fan. Some I know go into more debt when going on vacation. That's the bed they made and they need to be prepared to sleep in.
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Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Our VERSION of capitalism is…which like every other economic theory ever decided on a daily basis what is and is not important of the “principles”
my stance in 30 years of studying Disney - outside, inside, outside - is that their brand allows them to operate beyond the principles/limits of what “capitalism” really is. And that is almost unique in this of any other market
Whippet Mom
Active Member
What I really hate is they keep raising ticket prices yet they keep charging you more and more to ride rides with all their new up charges in the form of Genie and lightning Lane
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That was a given from the start. The Bobs have stood in front of investors for 10 years and said they are gonna charge more for everything…old and the new.
Why does anyone doubt or defend that? It’s not a conspiracy…right out in broad daylight.
Consumers must play their role: either pay for it or don’t…just don’t waiver and lose sight of the reality.
If you believe in the free market…then this is a requirement…not a matter of “opinion”
Whippet Mom
Active Member
Exactly, One of the reasons this already paid for trip will be our last. We have both retired and have now been priced out of WDW vacations. Luckily there are 50 states to visit with lots of awesome places to see..
Indeed. And if you feel the need to see some better Disney theme parks, there are ones in Paris and Tokyo waiting for you, if your finances can accommodate it.
spock8113
Well-Known Member
Like everything else from gasoline to hamburger meat, they all are using the pandemic as an excuse to get back the proceeds they lost whilst everyone was locked down. It is happening worldwide and rest assured, prices will never go back down because shareholders will quickly become comfortable with increased dividends.
PolynesianPrincess
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I was just looking at my AP comparisons... in 2001 we paid $349 no blackout dates... 2011 we paid $519 no blackout dates (increase of $170 over 10 years) In 2021 the same AP is $1,195 (increase of $676 over 10 years)