News Walt Disney World's COVID-19 reopening plans announced - July 11

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Ok, resort guests with tickets. The thing is, if you are staying off site and have tickets, too bad, as you’ll have no access to the reservation system at all initially. That’s why I said resort guests.
Well...it’s all a moving target. But I find it interesting they have adopted an “unofficial” policy of placing more value on on-property tickets as opposed to the exact same ones purchased for offsite.

That might make an interesting court case🤔
 

icc2515

Well-Known Member
But I find it interesting they have adopted an “unofficial” policy of placing more value on on-property tickets as opposed to the exact same ones purchased for offsite.
They always have. Extra Magic Hours for resort guests with the same tickets as off site. Even the phased closures do not restrict resort guests until phase 4. And it's not unofficial they did post it. See it above.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
They always have. Extra Magic Hours for resort guests with the same tickets as off site. Even the phased closures do not restrict resort guests until phase 4. And it's not unofficial they did post it. See it above.
That’s additional...that’s not really creating a scenario where a ticket can’t be used that was purchased...

Phased closings are so few and far between they were almost irrelevant...until now.
 

PREMiERdrum

Well-Known Member
I'm sure I typed this earlier in the thread, but...

Our BDM explained it this way.

First priority for park reservations will be given to onsite guests with existing tickets.

Next in line will be onsite guests without tickets. They will be able to buy new tickets attached to specific dates.

Third and Fourth, and I'm not sure in which order, will be APs and offsite guests with existing tickets.

Finally, date-assigned ticket sales can be sold to new off-site guests.

All based on capacity, of course.
 

LuvtheGoof

Grill Master
Premium Member
I'm sure I typed this earlier in the thread, but...

Our BDM explained it this way.

First priority for park reservations will be given to onsite guests with existing tickets.

Next in line will be onsite guests without tickets. They will be able to buy new tickets attached to specific dates.

Third and Fourth, and I'm not sure in which order, will be APs and offsite guests with existing tickets.

Finally, date-assigned ticket sales can be sold to new off-site guests.

All based on capacity, of course.
Thanks, that all makes sense.
 

the_rich

Well-Known Member
I'm sure I typed this earlier in the thread, but...

Our BDM explained it this way.

First priority for park reservations will be given to onsite guests with existing tickets.

Next in line will be onsite guests without tickets. They will be able to buy new tickets attached to specific dates.

Third and Fourth, and I'm not sure in which order, will be APs and offsite guests with existing tickets.

Finally, date-assigned ticket sales can be sold to new off-site guests.

All based on capacity, of course.
Can you please say this louder for the people in the back. I was told I was dense for saying this is how they would do it.
 

PREMiERdrum

Well-Known Member
First what's a BDM. Second how do they have this information. Third thanks for posting this information.

No worries.

BDM = Business Development Manager. They're Disney Travel Company employees who work with Disney travel agencies in specified regions. They can't tell you anything about new attractions or what's happening with the yeti, but they typically are plugged in on issues of packages, ticket changes, promotions, etc.
 

disneygeek90

Well-Known Member
I'm sure I typed this earlier in the thread, but...

Our BDM explained it this way.

First priority for park reservations will be given to onsite guests with existing tickets.

Next in line will be onsite guests without tickets. They will be able to buy new tickets attached to specific dates.

Third and Fourth, and I'm not sure in which order, will be APs and offsite guests with existing tickets.

Finally, date-assigned ticket sales can be sold to new off-site guests.

All based on capacity, of course.
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen for APs.
 

jinx8402

Well-Known Member
Sounds like a disaster waiting to happen for APs.

I'm assuming they will have extend the APs at least through the initial parks re-opening phase, like they did with Shanghai. Just because they currently say through the "closure" doesn't mean they can't change that. Look at resort package cancellation policy. First it was through June 30, then through the closure period, but now through October 3.

Maybe they won't, but I'm sure they realize that if a majority of AP can't make a reservation in the first few months they would do this as a gesture of good faith.
 

DisneyDebRob

Well-Known Member
DeSantis also said the amount of people on ventilators who have tested positive for the virus is down 56 percent from April 15.

Sounds great, right? Until one realizes that in order to make the number of those on ventilators sound like good news, you compare it to the number from two whole months ago at its peak.

It would be more helpful to characterize the number of people on ventilators as rising or declining in the in the past two weeks so as to know if things are currently getting better or worse. For all we know, this number could be on a sharp rise, but, as long it's not the all time record, it's good news!
The spin coming from people in charge.. I feel like my head is on a Lazy Susan. Anyone young, feel free to look that up.
 

DisneyCane

Well-Known Member
DeSantis also said the amount of people on ventilators who have tested positive for the virus is down 56 percent from April 15.

Sounds great, right? Until one realizes that in order to make the number of those on ventilators sound like good news, you compare it to the number from two whole months ago at its peak.

It would be more helpful to characterize the number of people on ventilators as rising or declining in the in the past two weeks so as to know if things are currently getting better or worse. For all we know, this number could be on a sharp rise, but, as long it's not the all time record, it's good news!

The point is that the ICU patients (current census not aggregate) is significantly lower now then it was at the peak. Also, the hospitals are not anywhere near capacity.

It doesn't matter if it is on a sharp rise or not. The entire "sales pitch" for the drastic mitigation was to make sure the hospital system wasn't overwhelmed and there was capacity to treat COVID and non-COVID patients as necessary. As long as this remains the case, it is "good news." Based on the tallahasseereports.com daily new hospitalization tracking, the number of hospitalizations is not increasing in any significant manner and is below the level that it was after the peak.

The goal was never to try and eliminate the virus with "mitigation." It was to flatten the curve so the health care system was not overwhelmed. I can't count the number of times that somebody said it doesn't matter how low the COVID fatality rate is, there will be deaths from other causes because the COVID patients will overwhelm the health care system and that is why we had to take drastic action to flatten the curve.

Amazing news

/s

WOW! Awesome!

Open everything up!! Its time. NO MASKS!

/s

What the article doesn't bother to mention is that in the examples he gave about places (there were more than just the airport) where a high percentage of people that live and/or work in close quarters tested positive, almost all of them were asymptomatic.

That's why the number of cases (documented or otherwise) doesn't really matter if the most vulnerable part of the population is taking precautions not to come into close contact with the less vulnerable population. Both the hospitalization numbers and the median age of the positive tests indicate that this is happening.

The single biggest issue in Florida related to COVID has been and continues to be nursing homes. Over half of the fatalities were nursing home residents. Nursing home residents make up less than 2% of the population of Florida but over half the COVID fatalities.

This chart illustrates how much lower the risk of death from COVID is in the general population vs. the nursing home population. Green is deaths in the general population which includes all of the high risk population.

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If you are not a resident of a nursing home, to date, the chance of a random Florida resident contracting and dying from COVID-19 is 0.0067%. Obviously the risk varies greatly by age and underlying health conditions but I'm just trying to put it into some kind of perspective.
 

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