Honestly…it makes those that muse all day - like me - feel better about themselves about pouring money into the coffers of a travel hub where the companies fight tooth and nail to keep those that work for them depressed…Yeah im not sure why that trope still rides around. Sure its cheaper than the most expensive citys in America....like anywhere is. To be fair there are parts of Florida that are cheap and far below the national average but its not orlando.
Yeah…but you know the constant rub is never going away there. Minimum labor for maximum price.I was saying $18 in Orlando because that is $3 per hour more than current. If it takes more, than give them more.
Everyone loves capitalism when it works to keep costs down. But the same rules and principles apply when it flips the other way. This is the system we have chosen. The free market sets the price of labor, so if you can’t get people you are underpaying even if the increases seem overly aggressive. It’s 30 years of transgressions squeezed into needing an immediate solution. It won’t come cheap.Are you being serious?
I'd argue that there is no such thing as a "free market" once Wall Street gets involved. It all becomes about feeding the monster, and those at the top have the ability to grease the wheels to ensure that things continue to move in their favor.Everyone loves capitalism when it works to keep costs down. But the same rules and principles apply when it flips the other way. This is the system we have chosen. The free market sets the price of labor, so if you can’t get people you are underpaying even if the increases seem overly aggressive. It’s 30 years of transgressions squeezed into needing an immediate solution. It won’t come cheap.
The downside of capitalism has always been the volatility that would sometimes erupt under sudden changes like now. Business could have done a better job of meeting the needs of their labor before, but they didn’t think they needed to. This is the consequence. They prioritized cost over stability. Like that electricity business model in Texas. But it’s still the system we choose. We either accept it in full or find a different one, but no cherry-picking.
It is…Disney could double the base pay of everyone and still make plenty of money without greatly raising prices. They just don't want to because the parks are a bank account for them and the execs won't be willing to make a little less. When cedar point is paying people $20 plus an hour in cheap ohio Disney raising prices due to "labor costs" is just another excuse.
We were in town for something else. Otherwise we wouldn’t be here at all.“Retraining customers”
Whoever’s on that…they aren’t bringing the kinda money Disney needs
…but you’re there
That would be abandoning the entire strategy of upselling the lines for 100% free and clear profit. Don’t think they’d consider that this soon.
…and yet…you’re THERE.
don’t aim the gun at your own buttocks…is my suggestion.
I can definitely see part of this being my fault. It’s just these passes have been out for 2 MONTHS. I didn’t think they would pull the plug so soon on these. It’s definitely a baffling decision. It’s not like the calendar has limited availability like Disneyland’s does (besides a few days) so this comes off as a move targeting people that want to upgrade their long holiday tickets.
That's a hard argument to make when Disney is charging what they are for a cheeseburger currently. We're already paying nose bleed prices for everything at Disney, but they're not wanting to put any of that money back into the parks.Then let's do it!
But then I don't want to hear any complaints as a consumer when your price of a park burger goes up to $32.50 and your park ticket price increases over 200%.
I don’t quite understand the outrage. At some point they’ll need to limit the amount of passes available, the parks don’t have limitless capacity. Disneyland had to do the same. Why keep selling passes if people are going to have trouble booking reservations?
I agree…This is not your fault at all. The park ticketing and reservation system has been made to be overly complicated and nobody would have thought that they would suspend the sales of APs after only 2 months. On top of that you were told by employees of the company to wait on the upgrade because there system is not efficient enough to recognize your existing reservations when you upgrade. While your penchant to hold yourself accountable is a respectable trait, you really shouldn't feel the need to accept responsibility here.
It's a simple decision: when the product doesn't provide the value you expect, you ditch it.I agree…
let me explain my frequent stance: morons like me (us) make the situation worse by feeding this beast…it has no limits to its consumption of cash at the expense of its own goodwill/reputation…
but it’s absolutely on them for screwing around with tickets they damn well know their longest, most loyal, most VALUABLE Customers use.
there is no excuse for this one. I think this is more about them not wanting to explain that they wouldn’t have the room to accommodate the tickets they just jacked up (again) because they can’t run the place due to the situation and the mistakes made for years.
but they’ll blame labor.
and I’m not a guest comm kinda guy…but that’s what I’ll be doing with this. Enough. They messed with this for a year and a half and now messing with it again 2 months later. You can’t blame germs for this. It’s just **** management
I wonder if all the cms are talking about how great “Josh” is now?…pressler had more spine
The issue with wdw is this:It's a simple decision: when the product doesn't provide the value you expect, you ditch it.
I just ditched my ISP because their product got too expensive compared to alternatives.
I'm now saving about $2500 a year over what I would have been paying them. Two years of those savings, and I could afford the Halcyon experience.*
*Ha! Fat chance that'll be worth $5,000+!
Dear god…this is great!Before the system became overly complicated they had phased closures during the holidays. The phased closures for certain times of the year were routine and easy to see coming. No reasonable person was really upset when phased closures occurred because based on decades of history it was understood and baked into the cake when purchasing an AP. Lastly, the failure to expand park capacity has been a problem for Disney for over a decade. Instead of expanding capacity through new parks, attractions, and adding to the massive space they have owned for decades in Reedy Creek; Disney elected to construct a multi-billion dollar digital crowd/profit management system that serves them rather than the consumer.
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