Walkway to MK from Grand Flo...do you ever think....

glvsav37

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...they will finish that walkway?

with all the monorail issues and sporadic scheduled down time, that walkway would take a bit of the strain off of the buses and ferries. Granted it's still a long enough walk, but one that can easily be done in the time that it takes to wait for other modes of transport after the Wishes crowd flows out of the park.

The ability to avoid any transports to the MK is the main reason we only stay at Bay Lake. It would be great to have that circle completed (especially for those who like a nice morning jog, it would make a great track.)
 

Tuvalu

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DisneyPrincess5

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I never really thought about this. That'd be great if they worked on it to make it safe and useable. Im guessing it needs too much which it why it hasn't been done yet. Plus the budget has been blown on Frozen Ever After. I'm a proponent of any kind of walkway. It helps relieve the other modes of transportationand gives people a hassle free option back to their resort especially during busy mornings and after busy end of day entertainment. We too enjoyed staying at Bay Lake for the walkway.

I'm not sure what the length of it would be but no matter the length, people would travel it.
 

wdwfan22

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In my opinion it will never happen as a bridge would be to much of an eyesore since it would have to be high enough for the water pageant to be able to enter the lake.
 

glvsav37

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In my opinion it will never happen as a bridge would be to much of an eyesore since it would have to be high enough for the water pageant to be able to enter the lake.

Not if it is a draw bridge. They already use one in Epcot for the Illuminations floats. At most it would be used 2x at night (water agent in and out) and the rare time a MK riverboat needs work.

I also wonder it would make any sense to park the light parade on Bay Lake, up by the boneyard or maintenance facility to solve the need to use and staff a drawbridge everyday.

I get the logistics of it and don't know if I could put an ROI on it other then what the maintenance/stress on the monorails and boats would be. Granted, they would still need upkeep, but just thinking of guest satisfaction of NOT being tied to those transports, esp when they are down.

doing a quick measure on MapMyRun, from the front door of the GF to the main gate at MK, its roughly .65 miles. Compared to roughly .5 miles from BLT to MK entrance.

I would love to see this.
 

wdwfan22

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Not if it is a draw bridge. They already use one in Epcot for the Illuminations floats. At most it would be used 2x at night (water agent in and out) and the rare time a MK riverboat needs work.

I also wonder it would make any sense to park the light parade on Bay Lake, up by the boneyard or maintenance facility to solve the need to use and staff a drawbridge everyday.

I get the logistics of it and don't know if I could put an ROI on it other then what the maintenance/stress on the monorails and boats would be. Granted, they would still need upkeep, but just thinking of guest satisfaction of NOT being tied to those transports, esp when they are down.

doing a quick measure on MapMyRun, from the front door of the GF to the main gate at MK, its roughly .65 miles. Compared to roughly .5 miles from BLT to MK entrance.

I would love to see this.

In my opinion It would be a waste of money to build and maintain a drawbridge just so a few people could walk to the Magic Kingdom.
 

Monorail_Red_77

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Also, Don't forget that they have to be able to removed the Steamship from Rivers of America and be able to tow it through that canal, into Seven Seas Lagoon and into Bay Lake to the North Service Area Dry Docks. All ships/boats have to be taken there for maintenance. including Ferry boats, etc.

So either they would have to make a draw bridge like at EPCOT or a high rise bridge that would take walking guests to a height similar to the monorail beam at that point. Approx 65 ft high I don't see this happening for the few people that would want to walk as opposed to water taxi / Monorail / bus service already in place.
 

ToTBellHop

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It wouldn't be THAT expensive. They build bridges all the time. I don't think it is a priority however. FWIW I think lots of people would enjoy it--walkers to MK and runners who would enjoy a path all the way from the TTC to Contemporary (via Poly and Grand Fla.).
 

wdwfan757

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I would imagine they could get away with adding $50 per night to the room rates at GF and poly if they did this. Not that they wont just add $50 per night anyway, but I think a lot of people would pay for that advantage. The only reason I pick contemporary/bay lake over GF and poly is to be able to walk home without dealing with transportation crowds.
 

ABQ

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I would imagine they could get away with adding $50 per night to the room rates at GF and poly if they did this. Not that they wont just add $50 per night anyway, but I think a lot of people would pay for that advantage. The only reason I pick contemporary/bay lake over GF and poly is to be able to walk home without dealing with transportation crowds.
They could save a few bucks right now by turning off the lights on path to nowhere from the boat docks. While they are at it, they could move the abandoned benches sitting at the dead end of the path into the parks, where they're warranted.
 

Andrew C

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They could save a few bucks right now by turning off the lights on path to nowhere from the boat docks. While they are at it, they could move the abandoned benches sitting at the dead end of the path into the parks, where they're warranted.

were those paths and "beaches" with palm trees along the water used back in the day for stuff?
 

Polydweller

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Not if it is a draw bridge. They already use one in Epcot for the Illuminations floats. At most it would be used 2x at night (water agent in and out) and the rare time a MK riverboat needs work.

I also wonder it would make any sense to park the light parade on Bay Lake, up by the boneyard or maintenance facility to solve the need to use and staff a drawbridge everyday.

I get the logistics of it and don't know if I could put an ROI on it other then what the maintenance/stress on the monorails and boats would be. Granted, they would still need upkeep, but just thinking of guest satisfaction of NOT being tied to those transports, esp when they are down.

doing a quick measure on MapMyRun, from the front door of the GF to the main gate at MK, its roughly .65 miles. Compared to roughly .5 miles from BLT to MK entrance.

I would love to see this.
Comparinging the drawbridge expanse to the MK canal expanse just isn't reasonable. The Epcot canal us about 30 ft across and the MK canal is over 109 ft. That would require a major drawbridge and would be a significant engineering task. And, to be that wide the cost of the bridge and the necessary counterweights and machinery gets expensive quickly. Then there are the operational and maintenance costs. It would be hard to justify building it for the relative few who would use it.
 

glvsav37

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Comparinging the drawbridge expanse to the MK canal expanse just isn't reasonable. The Epcot canal us about 30 ft across and the MK canal is over 109 ft. That would require a major drawbridge and would be a significant engineering task. And, to be that wide the cost of the bridge and the necessary counterweights and machinery gets expensive quickly. Then there are the operational and maintenance costs. It would be hard to justify building it for the relative few who would use it.

wow...didnt realize it was that wide. thx
 

s&k'smom

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It would be wonderful but I don't think it will happen. To be able to walk back like we were able to at the Contemp last year is so less stressful!
 

MaryJaneP

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As previously mentioned, length and costs seem to be primary inhibitors. Bridge over access canal, while able to be engineered, lacks budget and there has been a question of whether land is buildable and able to support either drawbridge or swingbridge. Is land between MK and GF dedicated wetlands? One thought we did have, if the land is buildable, is to perhaps add a mid-point shop/restaurant that would be an actual draw. There would then be a possible ROI on the project. One way to make lemonade out of lemons.
 

P_Radden

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If they never intended to connect that walkway all the way to the GF, then why did ever extend it down past the resort ferry dock in the first place? All it does is confuse tired folks at the end of a long day. I've seen over and over again people take off walking down that path thinking they'll make it to GF to only reach the dead end and realize they wasted their time and energy.

They should just end it here:
MKwalkway.jpg
 

DisneyJeff

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In the Parks
No
They could use an extra raft from Tom Sawyer's Island to ferry pedestrians across the canal. Or better yet a rope swing!!!
 

P_Radden

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They could use an extra raft from Tom Sawyer's Island to ferry pedestrians across the canal. Or better yet a rope swing!!!

Rope swing! Now you're talking!

Well they could also dig a pedestrian tunnel under the canal.

Let's be realistic, they probably wont do anything to that area but it would be great for walkers, runners and bicyclers to have the path way connected.
 

MaryJaneP

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another possible reason (as if TDO needed any) not to complete it, is that if completed, the only obstacle to "around the world" would be making access to/from CR/BLT and TTC possible.

So, short answer is No, we do not think it will ever be completed.

Long answer is see our previous posts.
 

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