News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

Jayspency

Active Member
In the Parks
No
I had a thought. People get mad that Disney keeps replacing rides and not expanding. But could you imaging DIS always expanding the borders of their parks and never replacing their subpar rides (think Dinorama and not things like Splash). Imagine how huge their parks would be as people kept heading to the outer areas to ride “the next big ride”. Imagine the work force they would have to employ. Would guests say “why do they not replace x since no one rides it.” I am not saying I agree with their current philosophy to replace and not expand, but the thought hit me if people would be happy with pure expansion and if the parks could sustain such an undertaking.
More things = more days = more money!
 

Jayspency

Active Member
In the Parks
No
What villains should be featured in this land? The usual (Ursula, Maleficent, Cruella, Hook, Jafar, Hades)? Or should those already featured elsewhere in rides/parks not have a presence (Ursula, Hook, Gaston, Wicked Queen, etc). Do they go top tier only or feature less known?

I think an E-ticket that features the main baddies would be a hit but too many silly nods (Evil Queen’s caramel apple store), Gaston’s gym, etc would make the land feel cheap.

Thoughts?
Nigel Channing
 

TheDisneyParksfanC8

Well-Known Member
but there’s a whole lot of backstage space between Simpsons and MIB that they must be relocating to pave the way for a huge expansion
Universal already has constructed a brand new set of sprung tents next to MIB so the outgoing ones can eventually be demoed for the Pokemon land.

While I don't think they will demo the backstage warehouses in that area, I do think that can maximize the space they have by going the Infinity Defense/Stark Flight Lab route by doing a multipurpose structure. Have a D ticket TSMM style ride where The Simpsons showbuilding currently is and in the spot occupied by the current sprung tents you can do a battle arena E ticket where you take on Team Rocket and their leader Giovanni.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I will be shocked if Epic sees any expansion in the next 5 years, my guess is it’ll outdraw USF from day 1. After Epic opens they’d be smart to focus on USF before spending another penny on Epic or IOA.

The ironic thing is I’d say the same about WDW, they should prioritize AK and HS, because they draw the fewest people, but most their announcements are going to MK… so who knows, maybe Epic will see expansions while USF remains mediocre at best.
They have a clear list of things they CAN do in USO and IOA after epic opens if they want to keep investing/strengthening…
But will they do it?

Remember: other than springs and pandora…wdw has just moved chairs around at great expense for 10+ years
 

TheDisneyParksfanC8

Well-Known Member
They have a clear list of things they CAN do in USO and IOA after epic opens if they want to keep investing/strengthening…
But will they do it?

Remember: other than springs and pandora…wdw has just moved chairs around at great expense for 10+ years
Supposedly HRRR will be going down at some point after EU opens for the F&F coaster, plus the Simpsons contract lapses in 2028 so they will need to start on Pokemon sooner than later. But other than that, it's an open quest to what comes beyond those two at USF and IOA.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
I feel like we kept seeing the same comments about Super Mario. Was that been a game changer for Universal Hollywood?

Pokemon is bigger than Mario, although I do think it has the same issue that Mario (potentially) has -- just because people like it doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be drawn to a theme park land/attraction based on it. There's not even a guarantee it will actually translate well into an attraction (I don't think Mario really does -- Mario Kart potentially could, although they botched it).
 

Centauri Space Station

Well-Known Member
The only time this has happened at Disney is universe of energy…. And since wonders of life is still sitting abandoned next door it seems a shame to have lost that pavilion even though it did need an update.

Since Disney feeds on classic charm and nostalgia…. Sometimes the “mediocre” has more to offer than an “amazing ride”
I mean YMMV but i’d say the decaying backlot tour, Streets of america, Camp Minnie Mickey, Circle of life, Maelstrom were nothing great nor better than what they replaced IMO.
 

TrainsOfDisney

Well-Known Member
I mean YMMV but i’d say the decaying backlot tour, Streets of america, Camp Minnie Mickey, Circle of life, Maelstrom were nothing great nor better than what they replaced IMO.
circle of life was an update, like the Canadian and China movies, etc.

Maelstrom was a better attraction and a better fit for the park but frozen has a better q

Camp Minnie Mickeys prime attraction FOLK was moved elsewhere.

Backlot / Streets of America - if we could plop rise next to star tours and still have Osbourne lights it would be worth it. The tour needed help, but catastrophe canyon was sooooo good.
 

CoasterCowboy67

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I feel like we kept seeing the same comments about Super Mario. Was that been a game changer for Universal Hollywood?
USH grew attendance 15% in 2023 when Mario opened. Hollywood's Super Nintendo World is noticeably smaller than Tokyo (no Yoshi), and I wouldn't be surprised if many US or Europe-based families who wouldn't make the trek to Japan have just been waiting a couple years for the much bigger iteration to open in Orlando
 

Brer Panther

Well-Known Member
Universe of energy is the poster child

But it handles less people and is behind a paywall

Is that “better”?
At least Universe of Energy had animatronics. That's more than you can say for Cosmic Rewind.
What villains should be featured in this land? The usual (Ursula, Maleficent, Cruella, Hook, Jafar, Hades)? Or should those already featured elsewhere in rides/parks not have a presence (Ursula, Hook, Gaston, Wicked Queen, etc). Do they go top tier only or feature less known?
That's one of the reasons I'm not sure a Villain's Land could work. Most of the popular villains are already featured in the Magic Kingdom - it'll be really strange, for example, having a Gaston's Tavern but NOT having it in the Villain's Land. Plus, I think a lot of the villains work better as part of attractions based on their movies as a whole.

There are also a lot of villains who don't lend themselves well to solo rides (Bellwether, Hans, King Magnifico), which makes things more complicated.

Maybe they could have a Bob Iger ride. He's the biggest Disney villain of all.
 

LSLS

Well-Known Member
I had a thought. People get mad that Disney keeps replacing rides and not expanding. But could you imaging DIS always expanding the borders of their parks and never replacing their subpar rides (think Dinorama and not things like Splash). Imagine how huge their parks would be as people kept heading to the outer areas to ride “the next big ride”. Imagine the work force they would have to employ. Would guests say “why do they not replace x since no one rides it.” I am not saying I agree with their current philosophy to replace and not expand, but the thought hit me if people would be happy with pure expansion and if the parks could sustain such an undertaking.
Not sure anyone has ever said there should not be some replacement at the right times, but a park where you have single digit attractions desperately needs more, not replacements. I've said this in Muppets, but I get the idea of replacing it (I have attachment to it so I would hate it, but I could understand with it at it's age). BUT, it makes no sense to axe it when you have entire areas of the park that need to be developed. Same goes for DAK. I don't mind Dino getting replaced (personally I'd just redo Dinorama, but whatever). BUT, this is a park with LEGIT 9 total things listed for Lightning Lane MP. Replacement isn't important in the least for that park. Sure, dino is not the most popular or the most well done, but it still is a thing for people to do.
 

Purduevian

Well-Known Member
I would rather have the list on the right vs the list on the left. And it’s not very close.

Major attractions that have opened at each resort since 2010.
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Doing it all:
Walt Disney WorldUniversal Orlando
Major Additions
Seven DwarfTransformers: The Ride-3D
TRON Lightcycle / Run Harry Potter and the Escape from Gringotts
Tiana's Bayou AdventureHogwarts Express
Frozen Ever After Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey
Remy's Ratatouille AdventureHagrid's Magical Creatures Motorbike Adventure
Guardians of the Galaxy: Cosmic RewindJurassic World VelociCoaster
Slinky Dog Dash Harry Potter and the Battle at the Ministry
Millennium Falcon: Smugglers RunHiccup's Wing Gliders
Star Wars: Rise of the ResistanceMario Kart: Bowser’s Challenge
Mickey & Minnie's Runaway RailwayMine-Cart Madness
Avatar Flight of PassageMonsters Unchained: The Frankenstein Experiment
Test Track V3Stardust Racers
Medium Additions
Enchanted Tales with BelleDespicable Me: Minion Mayhem
Under the SeaRace Through New York Starring Jimmy Fallon
Festival of FantasyFast & Furious – Supercharged
Happily Ever AfterThe Bourne Stuntacular
Disney Starlight Parade Illumination's Villain-Con Minion Blast
Journey of Water, Inspired by MoanaCineSational: A Symphonic Spectacular
Luminous The Symphony of UsDreamWorks Imagination Celebration
For the First Time In Forever: A Frozen Sing-Along Celebration Trolls Trollercoaster
Disney Movie MagicUniversal Mega Movie Parade
Alien Swirling Saucers Skull Island: Reign of Kong
Wonderful World of Animation Le Cirque Arcanus
The Little Mermaid - A Musical AdventureConstellation Carousel
Na'vi River JourneyCurse of the Werewolf
Feathered Friends In Flight!Dragon Racer's Rally
Zootopia: Better ZoogetherFyre Drill
The Untrainable Dragon
Yoshi's Adventure
Minor Additions
Meet Mickey at toon town theaterKang & Kodos' Twirl 'n' Hurl
Casey Jr. Ollivanders Experience in Diagon Alley
Pete's Silly Side ShowIllumination Theater
Ariel M&GPo Live!
Pirates AdventurePoppy’s Playground
Cindy & Visting princess M&GPo’s Kung Fu Training Camp
Tiana & Visiting princess M&GKing Harold’s Swamp Symphony
Frozen Holiday Surprise Shrek’s Swamp for Little Ogres
A Goofy Cavalcade Shrek’s Swamp Meet
Mickey's Celebration Cavalcade Raptor Encounter
The Royal Princess Processional Astronomica
Disney Adventure Friends Cavalcade Darkmoor Monster Makeup Experience
Mickey's Magical Friendship Faire Meet the Monsters
Meet Anna and Elsa at Royal Sommerhus Viking Training Camp
Awesome Planet
Disney & Pixar Short Film Festival
Beauty and the Beast Sing-Along
Canada Far and Wide in Circle-Vision 360 i
DuckTales World Showcase Adventure
¡Celebración Encanto!
Meet Beloved Disney Pals at Mickey & Friends
Star Wars Launch Bay
Star Wars Launch Bay: Meet Chewbacca
Meet Disney Stars at Red Carpet Dreams
BB-8 Astromech on Duty
Droid Depot
Savi's Workshop
Star Wars Launch Bay: Encounter Darth Vader
Vacation Fun - An Original Animated Short with Mickey & Minnie
Disney Junior Play and Dance!
Meet Favorite Disney Pals at Adventurers Outpost
Wilderness Explorers
Tree of Life Awakenings
The Animation Experience at Conservation Station

Thank you touring plans for helping me make this list
 

rd805

Well-Known Member
I feel like we kept seeing the same comments about Super Mario. Was that been a game changer for Universal Hollywood?
I could be wrong but i believe they are still charging $$ to get an early entry into Nintendoland, which leads me to think the land is still very busy & they are making extra coin off an upcharge (an upcharge that people are paying & not complaining about as far as we know too!).

So gamechanger-ish. I'm sure merchandise is HUGE now with the IP and will be as well.
 

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