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Rumor Very Likely: Pixar's Coco coming to the Mexico Pavilion

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
I'm sure it's easy to google...but I couldn't remember if they did the run up months in advance or a full year in advance.
Neither. RoE premiered as a soft opening a week before the official October 1 opening. Amazingly the lagoon was only dark for one night for the changeover from 25B. Technically this was 25C but more commonly was known as B or I98.
 
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Neither. RoE premiered as a soft opening a week before the official October 1 opening. Amazingly the lagoon was only dark for one night for the changeover from 25B. Technically this was 25C but more commonly was known as B or I98.
I meant "run up" to eisnerfest 2000. I was thinking it was all 99...but it was 2000 into 2001. The millennium actually started 1/1/2001.

So it started 9/23/99...I think I saw it on 10/2...that would be a 3 month runup before "celebrating the future hand in hand"

Anyway...it's really old at this point
 

MickeyMario

Well-Known Member
At the moment it’s Windows on the World.

Much prefer Skydance. Although the RoE replacement is jumping around the calendar so much perhaps the name will change again.
How big of an update will this be?

Will the globe remain? Or get changed for something newer?

If you can say
 

mikejs78

Well-Known Member
That was Illuminations 25b. The third version of the show with the same name.
The first time I saw Illuminations was as a child in 1988. (I think it was just called "Illuminations" back then). I was blown away, I had never seen anything like it my entire life. I remember thinking that just a regular wave of pyro during that show would have been the finale of most local 4th of July shows around the country. And add the music, and I was just in awe. I think it was that moment that I fell in love with WDW. Wish I could get a good video of that show....

Here's hoping the next Illuminations incarnation lives up to the history.
 

aladdin2007

Well-Known Member
I only hope that whatever comes of IllumiNations, they will still have the pavilions outlined in lights, that is my favorite part and has mesmerized me since childhood. I wish Morocco and Norway could somehow get a light package by now, I know the reasons why they didnt to begin with but I wish they could be incorporated better. (even in general Norway is almost totally dark now at night) it use to look like this pic below, sure doesn't anymore.) And or include some of the original effects they use to have from the prior versions or still do on new years eve. Remember the moulin rouge windmill on top of France? or how Germany turned into a gingerbread castle? and China had a lit moving dragon on top? etc. Those things were basically from the original IllumiNations right Martin?
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
I apologize for being testy, comments that rumours aren't news is similar to "Disney is a business". Needlessly shutting down conversation and miss the point.

...they have a "life cycle" that flashes and then they fall back in line with movies like Tarzan or Mulan...liked and recognized but not themepark IP.
Both of which just got semi-major or major installations in 2016 (Shanghai).

I understand your point that previous history needs to be taken into account for why certain projects are or are not likely to happen, but you must also contextualize that post-Eisner history is a decade when they were not rethinking Epcot:

At the Destination D fan event this past weekend, Bob Chapek, the Chairman of Disney Parks and Resorts, announced that Epcot would be receiving “a major transformation” that would help transition the park into being “more Disney, timeless, relevant, family-friendly” while keeping the original vision alive.

Chapek stated that the design team was told to “dream big” with what they wanted to do to third oldest Disney park in the world.
Which IP get used when is sometimes largely a by-product of timing. Tron was built because it was designed and largely budgeted prior to it collapsing at the box office or Disney's acquisition of the much more popular (in China) Marvel studio. For the same reason Coco kind of doesn't matter how it does - because it is coming out at the correct time.

When you have a mandate to make Epcot more Disney, you have an under-attended ride like Gran Fiesta Tour and you have an upcoming film set in Mexico - that's all the math you need to pass your sniff test.
 

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
And or include some of the original effects they use to have from the prior versions or still do on new years eve. Remember the moulin rouge windmill on top of France? or how Germany turned into a gingerbread castle? and China had a lit moving dragon on top? etc. Those things were basically from the original IllumiNations right Martin?
Yep. The 1988 show had some amazing visual physical effects. The projection effects on Germany, USA and Canada in particular were very clever. The hydraulic neon on China, France and the UK the same.
 

mikejs78

Well-Known Member
Yep. The 1988 show had some amazing visual physical effects. The projection effects on Germany, USA and Canada in particular were very clever. The hydraulic neon on China, France and the UK the same.
When did that show debut / end? I was there to see it sometime mid October 1988...
 

Epcot82Guy

Well-Known Member
I know I've said it before, I really hope it lives up to the current show. The current show needs tech upgrades no doubt. But, the message, music, story, etc. is easily the best show for the given park they've done IMHO. It's the most "EPCOT" attraction we've ever had. I hope they grow on that vs. something more trite.
 

trainplane3

Well-Known Member
I only hope that whatever comes of IllumiNations, they will still have the pavilions outlined in lights, that is my favorite part and has mesmerized me since childhood. I wish Morocco and Norway could somehow get a light package by now, I know the reasons why they didnt to begin with but I wish they could be incorporated better. (even in general Norway is almost totally dark now at night) it use to look like this pic below, sure doesn't anymore.) And or include some of the original effects they use to have from the prior versions or still do on new years eve. Remember the moulin rouge windmill on top of France? or how Germany turned into a gingerbread castle? and China had a lit moving dragon on top? etc. Those things were basically from the original IllumiNations right Martin?
I'm pretty sure that Morocco won't ever get a lighting package unless they (the sponsor/country) change their stance on their religion. The Morocco pavilion has a replica of a religious building and that means no decorations thrown on it. That's why they project a light (I believe a red light, if that has any significance) onto it during the show.

And I thought Norway had nothing to "balance" WS during Illuminations.

I'm sure @marni1971 can confirm.