Universal Epic Universe (South Expansion Complex) - Opens 2025

RandySavage

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If you weren't excited enough for Epic Universe, Themeparx posted a collection of Nathaniel West's unreleased art for Celestial Park. It is gorgeous work and very interesting in how it shows the design evolution.

It does make me wish they had stuck with the earlier, more theatrical version of the hotel, as that will the dominate the feel of the park.
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SplashJacket

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The older studios parks, I agree. IOA and the "newer" park designs like Singapore & Beijing are designed very well.

IOA feels like DisneySea in some parts.
Suess and Super hero are ugly. The rest are fantastic.

Nothing as ugly as half of Studios both Hollywood and Universal.
 

999th Happy Haunt

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The older studios parks, I agree. IOA and the "newer" park designs like Singapore & Beijing are designed very well.

IOA feels like DisneySea in some parts.
The current stretch all the way from Port of Entry through Seuss to Kong is real nice and pretty (if a bit maintenance dependent in Seuss's case). Toon Lagoon and Marvel aren't the prettiest looking but their rides are good.
 

Andrew25

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I've always felt that IOA is 60% impressively themed (Port of Entry, Skull/JP, Hogsmeade, and Lost Continent) and 40% "fill it with lots of tacky clutter" (Marvel, Seuss, Toon Lagoon).
Seuss has its issues, but it's a marvelous area. To each their own, but it's a wonderfully designed area with great attractions for its designated audience.
 

Tom Morrow

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I will not be accepting Seuss slander. Flawless execution of such a distinct style. There is literally no doubt what anything in that land is themed after.

I have two problems with it:

1. Much of the theming is just slabs of concrete or plastic or metal painted one or two solid colors. It gives it a look of "concrete jungle" rather than the whimsical setting they were going for.

2. The solid colors everywhere require everything in the place to look absolutely pristine to look good. The second it starts fading* or isn't power washed well enough it starts looking cheap and junky. And, well, Universal doesn't refresh it enough for it to stay looking nice (and to be fair it's hard to keep things like this looking fresh in Florida, hence why I'm a little concerned about how Super Nintendo World will hold up in the Florida elements.)

*I am aware that the colors are supposed to be pastel shades, but there's a difference between a well saturated pastel surface and a sun-bleached pastel surface.

Like I'm not being hyperbolic here, I think Seuss Landing might be the second ugliest spot in any Orlando park behind the entrance / music plaza of USF.
 
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celluloid

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2. The solid colors everywhere require everything in the place to look absolutely pristine to look good. The second it starts fading* or isn't power washed well enough it starts looking cheap and junky. And, well, Universal doesn't refresh it enough for it to stay looking nice (and to be fair it's hard to keep things like this looking fresh in Florida, hence why I'm a little concerned about how Super Nintendo World will hold up in the Florida elements.)

I have the same concern about Mario. Japan's climate is similar, but not quite, and their attention is impeccable.

Universal used to be much better at nightly checks and touch ups in what was needed in the first decade of IOA. Potter gets a lot of the touch up attention now.

I maintain that Suess looks better than most of Disney's upkeep of the front of EPCOT and Main Street USA's faded, worn and ugly for similar reasons.

I don't see the concrete jungle thought, because there is plenty of real palm trees all wonky and growing and the design of everything is right out of the books and 60s cartoons.

The uhh..Venn Diagram, yeah, in EPCOT's changes that were supposed to take that feeling away still feel like an urban park.
 

TalkToEthan

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Suess and Super hero are ugly. The rest are fantastic.

Super Hero is loaded with bombastic architecture and showcasing embarrassing 2 dimensional fronts but still worse is the noise: pounding piped in noise throughout the land.

Suess Landing’s appeal relies heavily on the paint can.
at its opening in turn of the century and after fresh paint jobs it brings the books and animated features to life beautifully. But during neglect, which has been often over the 1/4 century, the place looks beaten, overused and well, ugly.
 

Andrew25

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Marvel - I'm not an entirely huge fan on the land, but it does fit it's original design intention. It's meant to be edgy and loud. While there are certainly things they can improve on, it's the best design choice for an all-encompassing hero land unless you go the full-immersive environment way set on a specific character's locale.

Seuss - they've worked on fixing up the land in the past year or so, it's looking a lot better.

Don't get me wrong, Universal certainly has its issues, but a lot of them stem from the pre-Potter days and their recent additions have been nothing but aesthetically pleasing.
 

sonoma15

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If Suess had a maintenance schedule on an OCL level, it would be world class.
Hot take: Super Hero Island is now old enough that it is retro, and thus, potentially timeless.
This is one of the benefits of not updating an area! Modernism isn't modern for long, but if something is around for long enough, anything can be nostalgic.
Clearly yall don't go to the parks often because it's pretty rare to see Suess now without construction walls somewhere with something being refurbed/repainted. They have been in a constant battle with refurbing the land for months.
 

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