News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

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James Alucobond

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I suppose there are more lights around the perimeter now, so they may have just moved them. Still kind of odd.

Also, based on streaming footage from today, it seems like those white blocks currently staged along the right edge of the ramp might be used to construct a taller barrier around some of the planters. At the very least, a few of them were stacked around the edge of the planter at the base of the pathway where the TRON signage is supposed to go.
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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James Alucobond said:
I suppose there are more lights around the perimeter now, so they may have just moved them. Still kind of odd.

Also, based on streaming footage from today, it seems like those white blocks currently staged along the right edge of the ramp might be used to construct a taller barrier around some of the planters. At the very least, a few of them were stacked around the edge of the planter at the base of the pathway where the TRON signage is supposed to go.
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Maybe the lights were just put in temporarily to test light levels and then were removed until work in that area is further along.
 
Skibum1970

Skibum1970

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celluloid said:
As said it is not just obesity. The United States also has different ADA requirements and a population that is often kinder and accessible for Special Needs situations as well.
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I was thinking this as well when I was thinking about slower load times. For those with ambulatory concerns, boarding TRON will pose a challenge that can only be overcome by taking a little longer which is perfectly understandable. I am a fan of dual loading platforms and they alleviate some of the issue. I've just observed that parks state a coaster's throughput to be 1,600 PPH, for instance, but that is based on number of riders, total ride time, and optimal unload/load timing. Real throughput usually ends up closer to 1,300-1,400 PPH. Hopefully, TRON is on the higher end of the scale.
 
jaxonp

jaxonp

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Surferboy567 said:
Is the launch for TRON faster than Rock N Roller Coaster?

Rock N Roller Coaster - 0 to 57 mph in less then 2.8 seconds

TRON Lightcycle / Run - Top speeds of just under 60 mph, seems that it is exactly 59.3 mph.

I’m not arguing which is more intense, that fact is obvious given the inversions of Rock. Just talking about raw speed here. How fast does TRON reach its top speed on the launch? Seems much more of a gradual launch then Rock’s sudden jolt of speed.
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Having ridden both, RnRc seems faster (much more intense.. likely based on the catapult launch system) so you're pretty right on
 
FigmentFan82

FigmentFan82

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jaxonp said:
Having ridden both, RnRc seems faster (much more intense.. likely based on the catapult launch system) so you're pretty right on
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it's because of the omni-directional pivoting the cars do around turns. completely smooths out the experience (in a great way I think) instead of being locked on a specific trajectory as the track twists and turns
 
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celluloid

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jaxonp said:
Having ridden both, RnRc seems faster (much more intense.. likely based on the catapult launch system) so you're pretty right on
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That is a shame in a way as the sensation of the vulnerable bike position should feel somewhat more intense, but I suppose that is not the goal. After the launch of Tron back into the indoors, it has quite a few block sections that seem oddly paced vs Big Thunder which is one of the blockiest break coasters of all time but each section is paced fairly well and has the lifthills for storytelling and a build.
 
jaxonp

jaxonp

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celluloid said:
That is a shame in a way as the sensation of the vulnerable bike position should feel somewhat more intense, but I suppose that is not the goal. After the launch of Tron back into the indoors, it has quite a few block sections that seem oddly paced vs Big Thunder which is one of the blockiest break coasters of all time but each section is paced fairly well and has the lifthills for storytelling and a build.
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The lunch from inside to outside in the beginning is nice because of the lighting package... it just doesn't feel like youre being thrown back.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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jaxonp said:
The lunch from inside to outside in the beginning is nice because of the lighting package... it just doesn't feel like youre being thrown back.
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but what sort of lunch is it? a sandwich? a salad or more of an entree...Lunching both indoors and outdoors can be lovely if it is not too humid, and will that include beverages? We need to know these things!
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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jaxonp said:
Leave me alone before a launch my lunch at you
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LOL! I read and laugh at my own typos all the time... I could not resist that one.
The beginning launch is great...the big circle outside under the canopy completely takes you out of the immersion they have been building in the queue...at night it is not too bad, but during the day it is kind of jarring. It would have worked much better if the entire canopy area had been indoors and in the dark with the futuristic TRON cityscape below and the queue winding through...then at least it would not be a day/night transition and it would sort of keep you in the environment... it would make it feel like a longer ride too as the outside portion divides the ride into two parts.... which again makes it feel shorter...
 
Skibum1970

Skibum1970

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Bocabear said:
LOL! I read and laugh at my own typos all the time... I could not resist that one.
The beginning launch is great...the big circle outside under the canopy completely takes you out of the immersion they have been building in the queue...at night it is not too bad, but during the day it is kind of jarring. It would have worked much better if the entire canopy area had been indoors and in the dark with the futuristic TRON cityscape below and the queue winding through...then at least it would not be a day/night transition and it would sort of keep you in the environment... it would make it feel like a longer ride too as the outside portion divides the ride into two parts.... which again makes it feel shorter...
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That is one part of this ride that has never made sense. I'm supposed to be brought into the grid prior to even riding the coaster, if I understand the storyline. So, I get on the coaster which then takes me out of the grid back to reality and then back into the grid. Was I trying to escape the grid but was dragged back in? Am I not in the grid until the coaster reenters the building?

Mind you, this isn't a showstopper for me. I can still ride and enjoy it. I just wondered what the purpose was to take it outdoors and back inside, aside from a reason to spend an unbelievable amount of money to build the canopy.
 
Bocabear

Bocabear

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I think the entire purpose of the outdoor section of the attraction was to show off the ride system and add some kinetic eye candy to the outside of the big box that is the show building... and in the end it is set dressing that does nothing to really advance the plot of the "story" that the ride is telling...it does the opposite. Also the many brake blocks encountered on the interior section are annoying and seem to stop the action every time it just starts going... The outdoor section should have had something to do with the inside....and it currently doesn't at all... so in the end, it feels like the launch is just a conveyance to the show building, because you fully brake before entering the interior part... when then feels painfully short. I liked the ride... I think it is visually very pretty when you get into the "Game Grid" but the outdoor section is problematic... Imagine if GOTG begins as it does on a transport shuttle in outer space, then launches outside on the roof before stopping and then going back inside... It would completely destroy the continuity of that attraction... Which is what this does at Tron. And yes I do think it is very pretty, and yes I enjoyed the ride ( went on it 3 times in a row)... but it would have made a much more engaging attraction with the launch and circle all happening indoors...
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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Bocabear said:
I think the entire purpose of the outdoor section of the attraction was to show off the ride system and add some kinetic eye candy to the outside of the big box that is the show building... and in the end it is set dressing that does nothing to really advance the plot of the "story" that the ride is telling...it does the opposite. Also the many brake blocks encountered on the interior section are annoying and seem to stop the action every time it just starts going... The outdoor section should have had something to do with the inside....and it currently doesn't at all... so in the end, it feels like the launch is just a conveyance to the show building, because you fully brake before entering the interior part... when then feels painfully short. I liked the ride... I think it is visually very pretty when you get into the "Game Grid" but the outdoor section is problematic... Imagine if GOTG begins as it does on a transport shuttle in outer space, then launches outside on the roof before stopping and then going back inside... It would completely destroy the continuity of that attraction... Which is what this does at Tron. And yes I do think it is very pretty, and yes I enjoyed the ride ( went on it 3 times in a row)... but it would have made a much more engaging attraction with the launch and circle all happening indoors...
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It’s strange because the progression in the queue works like this:

The canopy is referred to as a “upload conduit”.

1. Outside under the canopy, you are zapped with the digitizer. Who zapped us in the grid?

2. Then though a small hallway are sent from physical to the digital grid.

3. Then the grand reveal happens and the launch is shown. From that moment on, you should be “in the grid”.

4. The guests, in this case the “users” are then briefed on their mission inside the game grid. Even this is a bit muddy though, have we been captured by Clu? Where does this take place in the time period?

5. The users are sent into the launch tunnel the launch takes place in the grid. Then we are launched…outside the grid? The Upload Conduit takes us into the grid, even though we were in the grid in the queue. This “upload conduit” is not a thing that has ever existed in the universe as well. The portal is the only way to get in and out of the grid.

Side Note: Cast members are wearing the users colors are they programs? Why are programs affiliated with users working with Clu/Rinzler? The story is kinda all over the place, and that’s fine.

I’m a big fan of TRON Legacy, the attraction’s story is all over the place but I’m just excited to ride a Lightcycle/be in the grid even for a little bit. I will admit though, the canopy while not making much story sense looks cool. Also, I’m aware that those who are not versed in TRON lore may read this and have no idea what any of it means but so be it.
 
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