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Baron Von Capybara

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
Dragging on too long
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Aramar

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The best location for Runaway Railroad is just next to your marked area. Instead of removing the Studio theatre and the Disney village parking building, it makes more sense to remove the Disney Channel Building (which houses stitch live, the show for children and offices). Removing that big building and the backstage buildings for the night shows on the tower of terror offers enough room for building Runaway Railroad. It fits perfectly in the theme of World Premiere Plaza and we would lose the most ugly part of the park.

Sadly it wouldn’t fit. Not in its current form. If it did, there would also be the issue of a looming show building impossible to hide (and only enough depth for a mural or similar as opposed to something dimensional)

I’m all for not having offices on-park (looking at you DHS as well) but I’d rather something more, well, fitting, went here.

The buildings in California and Orlando have different shapes, they would need to rearrange some things of course, but in terms of surface available there's enough room. The side of the building facing Avengers Campus could be themed with bricks 🧱 matching the campus style, and the facade facing World Premier as a big theatre. I measured and made a plan some time ago, I'll try to find it.

I found my old sketch. For me this would be the perfect location for Runaway Railroad with an available surface of over 8500 sq meters. Of course I respect other opinions too, just sharing my thoughts.

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Aramar

Well-Known Member
Where is that?
Is that the arena in the Studios next to it?
That's in World premiere plaza, the building where the Stitch live and Minnie's Dream factory show are housed and some backstage buildings. It's the area between Studio theatre and the entrance to Avengers Campus.
 

Nickm2022

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Wondered how long it would take to get here as his prediction based on a very old rumour seemed to spread like wildfire, with it changing from guess, to rumour to happening every time someone found the info. It's very unlikely
I agree, just thought it's worth bringing up. I just hope DLP main park gets something
 

mrflo

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Any thoughts on this (solar panel park)?
Or am I late to the party ?
Mainly wondering: could this be just a temporary use of the land — until they eventually move those solar panels to a potential 3rd park's parking lot and/or need to free up the space for actual hotel expansion?

on another note Tom at is reporting a new Star Wars ride / miniland replacing autopia
Since they already freed up expansion space by reorganizing the backstage area behind the Discoveryland railway (former Pizza Planet), I don't even get why they would need to replace Autopia for a Star Wars miniland.

But apart from that particular prediction, what's the current consensus for next week's D23 parks panel?
  • Space Mountain overhaul (end 2027 – 2029) — pretty likely.
  • A brand-new Disneyland Park attraction (2030/31) would be the right move, but I'm not expecting it.
  • Likely: Lion King sneak peeks, Wilderness Explorers Sky Swings preview & opening window, maybe 1-2 show/parade announcements for the 35th anniversary next year.
  • For DAW, the only "joker" news could be the DCA Avengers ride coming here too. Doubt the 3rd lakeside land gets announced — more likely smaller Frozen additions or just the Frozen Christmas overlay preview.
Curious if we'll hear anything on Disney Village or a new hotel too, though that may be less exciting for the mostly US-based/international D23 crowd.

With all the recent management changes — TWDC CEO down to local DLP President — my hope is still that plans for DLP's future after the LK get revisited, hopefully with an ambitious next phase for both parks. At least the current financial results showed a major boost in attendance at DLP due to Frozen. This could either encourage them to keep investing, or confirm that their mini-land approach with just one ride is still paying off.

What does everyone think will actually happen?
 

Gusey

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Mainly wondering: could this be just a temporary use of the land — until they eventually move those solar panels to a potential 3rd park's parking lot and/or need to free up the space for actual hotel expansion?


Since they already freed up expansion space by reorganizing the backstage area behind the Discoveryland railway (former Pizza Planet), I don't even get why they would need to replace Autopia for a Star Wars miniland.

But apart from that particular prediction, what's the current consensus for next week's D23 parks panel?
  • Space Mountain overhaul (end 2027 – 2029) — pretty likely.
  • A brand-new Disneyland Park attraction (2030/31) would be the right move, but I'm not expecting it.
  • Likely: Lion King sneak peeks, Wilderness Explorers Sky Swings preview & opening window, maybe 1-2 show/parade announcements for the 35th anniversary next year.
  • For DAW, the only "joker" news could be the DCA Avengers ride coming here too. Doubt the 3rd lakeside land gets announced — more likely smaller Frozen additions or just the Frozen Christmas overlay preview.
Curious if we'll hear anything on Disney Village or a new hotel too, though that may be less exciting for the mostly US-based/international D23 crowd.

With all the recent management changes — TWDC CEO down to local DLP President — my hope is still that plans for DLP's future after the LK get revisited, hopefully with an ambitious next phase for both parks. At least the current financial results showed a major boost in attendance at DLP due to Frozen. This could either encourage them to keep investing, or confirm that their mini-land approach with just one ride is still paying off.

What does everyone think will actually happen?
DLP at D23 is always weird to predict as it never normally gets a ton of attention, apart from last time with the Lion King announcement. A part of me is thinking multiple Space Mountain refurbs (WDW, HKDL and DLP) bunched together, update on Lion King, 35th anniversary parade for Disneyland Parc, and if they do talk about the resort outside of the parks, either a refurb for Newport Bay or the new Lake Hotel
 

MerlinTheGoat

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True! Its just such a large show building to fill..
The show scenes themselves are most likely going to be fairly similar in size to the ones from Splash Mtn/Tiana. The footprint of TLK's show building is somewhat deceptive to how big it is compared to those rides.

Splash Mtn had to be built within a fairly small plot of land. Because of this, the designers pushed for verticality. The track would travel in spiraling patterns up and down, traveling over/under itself at points via elevation changes. The lifts and drops were used creatively to allow boats to travel between scenes that were stacked directly on top of one another. The first interior show scene ("How Do You Do") is directly on top of the Laughing Place scene, the drops and curves between those two scenes are used to transport guests to that lower level. The Zip a Dee Doo Dah finale scene is also directly underneath two of the lifts and the big drop. It's a complex winding track layout using stacked layers to optimize the small amount of space that was available while still creating a lengthy ride and large show scenes. Pirates of the Caribbean at Disneyland CA uses similar layering with the Blue Bayou and the caverns.

The Lion King doesn't use this sort of layering for its track layout. There are still several minor lifts and drops like in Splash, but they are just for show/fun and don't serve the practical purpose they did in Splash to make a smaller footprint show building. There aren't any instances in TLK where scenes are stacked on top of one another. Even the finale scene is built with its own space where the lift/drop don't pass over top of it. There's only one instance where the track crosses over top of itself, the final big lift travels over the loading area. Everything is very spread out over a larger plot of land. You could likely remove all of those small lifts and drops (just leaving the big one at the end) and it would still fit the same amount/size of show scenes within the same footprint. Again I expect the ride and its scenes will be very similar in length and scale to that of Splash. They could potentially make the scenes taller though.

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