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Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris
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James Alucobond
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I think there are a few factors in play here. First, this is taken from the entrance walkway, not the lagoon or land's hub. From elsewhere, it seems like you're better able to take in all of the important landmarks simultaneously. Second, from a narrative/worldbuilding perspective, you probably want a decent amount of visual distance between the castle proper and the ice palace. Finally, this is the centerpiece for the whole lagoon, so you need a sense of visual balance when viewing it in its entirety beyond the approach from the entrance promenade. At that distance, the castle on the right counterbalances the mountain on the left.
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cjkeating
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So a few things.
1) I think this is a matter of the camera not representing real life
2) As you walk down Adventure Way the reveal is the mountain/castle
3) Despite what it is now... Adventure Way is not a walkway to Frozen. It's a walkway to the eventual 5(?) main lands around the lake
britain
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I could say the same about the Main Street-to-Fantasyland in a Disneyland/Magic Kingdom park.
I'm sure they have some method to the madness, I guess they want to save the mountain for a big reveal after you get to the lake. Or maybe they want the wienie to work, but not TOO well. "Spend a little time at the Up swings or the Tangled tea cups on the right and left! Don't just run straight to Frozen!"
James Alucobond
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Again, I think it's just that, because you're essentially dealing with two castles (the Arendelle royal palace and Elsa's ice palace), you have to split the difference in some way for it to not feel super unbalanced, so the town clocktower (farthest in the foreground based on the forced perspective) holds the center, the next-tallest castle (also next-closest perspectivally) holds the right, and the tallest mountain (and most distant) holds the left. The land would look weird if it went mountain-castle-clocktower (wedge-shaped downward slope to the right while constantly receding to the left) or clocktower-mountain-castle (nonsensical due to separation of town and castle and sharp visual dropoff in height on the left side of the land), for instance.
Supersnow84
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it’s wild to think that with both the confirmed lands open and a theoretical third land of avatar with its own e ticket it’s still hard to see which; if any; other Disney parks WDS will be better than
I don’t know if that speaks more of how bad WDS is currently or how well overall Disney has improved their underperforming parks in the last 10 years
I don’t know if that speaks more of how bad WDS is currently or how well overall Disney has improved their underperforming parks in the last 10 years
I’d argue with Lion King and an Avatar land it would edge out Disney’s Hollywood Studios. DHS would still have a better entrance street but in terms of attraction line ups I feel WDS would win.
ToT- Both have, although DHS has the better version
Flight Force and Muppets coaster - exact same ride, cancel each other out
Crush’s Coaster and Slinky dog - family coasters, would possible give edge to Crush for indoor scenes.
Runaway Railway and Ratatouille - both family dark rides
Midway Mania and Spiderman - I’d give Spiderman the edge over Midway Mania
Flat rides - WDS would win hands down, all of Toy Story Land plus Flying carpets and Cars and new Tangled and UP rides vs Alien saucers at DHS
Cars Tram tour has no equivalent at DHS
Shows - WDS would win for me, Pixar and Mickey and the Magician are good theme park shows, better than Indy and Beauty and the Beast. Whatever replaces the Frozen show is possibly a wash with DHS singalong. Fantasmic vs new WDS nightime show is hard to judge yet.
Would boil down to will Frozen, Lion King and Avatar surpass Galaxies Edge and Monsters Inc.
BrianLo
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Both. I think there is a lot of success in merely being a good second park that shouldn’t be taken away because it’s not remotely in the running of being the best second park. Good bones go a long way, though not the best bones.
Particularly if - and if is important - Lion King and Pandora host two world class original attractions. Plus given the stronger profile of existing attractions, and the je ne sais quoi of finally being occasionally pretty and pleasant to be in… this might not be for sure the worst Disney park on everyones list. Like you say, if it is, it is because the bar has been significantly raised from 2005-2015.
I don’t say this to be mean spirited, but already this forthcoming possibility, even if they botch it, sounds better to me than a handful of Universal parks. Pretty and pleasing takes me a long way, never thought I could use pretty in the same sentence as this park.
European1992
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Avatar is the best solution honestly, hope they do not delay it too much.
Depends on your personal point of view.
Yes. It could have been even better. But much like the MK you see the Astro Orbiter from the hub. There’s your weenie. Then once that pull has expanded itself you see Space Mountain; a second and even greater weenie.
More bang for your buck if you like.
Supersnow84
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I think the best solution is lands that work as these sort of “micro lands” that WDS seems to be focusing on
You need to be well designed to immerse guests in the comparatively very small lands that WDS has. I think whatever can best pull that off is the best fit
It’s why I’m sorta worried about pride lands
Animaniac93-98
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This is going to be by Tangled, has it been built yet?
Animaniac93-98
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If it gets Avatar AND the Avengers E-ticket (Replacing the stunt show arena) than it certainly would
Animaniac93-98
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I like the idea of giving the area around Crush, Carpets and Cars Race Rally a Finding Nemo retheme to tie it all together and improve its appearance
You'd still have the underwhelming twin theater exteriors, but that would fix most of what's left from the 2000s
You'd still have the underwhelming twin theater exteriors, but that would fix most of what's left from the 2000s
Supersnow84
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The old animation courtyard area is definitely the worst of what’s left in the park. Though it’s hard to say if redoing that to really cut away the last of the launch trash or a mother new oaks would help the park more
Yes, that's one of the 3 souvenir kiosks that have been built in the expansion in addition to the other 3 food kiosks.
britain
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I suppose, but that's more a matter of the bigger wienie being built later. Note Tokyo puts Space Mountain in as the main TL wienie. Paris put Big Thunder in as the main FL wienie.
It's a curious choice to do it deliberately like this here. I'd love to hear the thought process behind it someday.
(Hoping there really was a thought process.)
I believe that was due to wanting Star Jets as the pull from Fantasyland.