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Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

mrflo

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A SW speeder bike ride like Hagrid's sounds great. I absolutely love that ride and it would bring much needed kinetic energy to a SW area. However, Hagrid's is also said to be the most expensive coaster in the world (USD 300 Mio). I doubt that Disney would be able to cut those costs significantly if we are expecting a similar scale and quality.

Talking about quality - if the Lion King ride plans were created over the last 2-3 years wouldn't this mean it was designed with the same mindset or people as for recent rides like Flight Force or Cars Road Trip? I don't know and can only guess what Bob Iger's impression of Flight Force was. But in his position I would have each active WDI project reviewed to see if it meets the Disney standards. WDS does not need another gamble at this stage and deserves an impressive e-ticket ride. Fingers crossed that the LK will deliver that. Choosing proven attractions like FoP or RotR would be still the safer option.
 
mrflo

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croboy82 said:
I am still hoping we get Pandora, come on.
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I did a simulation and it seems like Bob would look happier with Pandora, too. ;)

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mrflo

mrflo

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I rediscovered this article by Disney and more published in 2014 about what the next couple of years of DLP would potentially look like: All About Disneyland Paris Future (2014)

It's nice to see how some of those plans/rumours back then actually became reality - especially around the refurbishments and updates to the classic attractions (project sparkle). Otherwise it's also a bit of a Déjà-vu with many of those in 2014 mentioned plans - like Pandora, SW in Discoveryland, Frontlot & Studio 1 updates, etc. - still or again being rumoured for the next couple of years.
 
mrflo

mrflo

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Some initial plans had a new hotel planned behind the coaster building of Flight Force and next to the land initially supposed to be for SW:GE. I assume that the Star Wars hotel was at least considered for DLP as well and could have fit at that location.

With the plans for SW:GE changed, would you still like to see a new hotel at that location that could fit with of the Studio's themed lands at some point? Maybe some altered Animal Kingdom Lodge style hotel to fit with the potential Lion King mini-land?

I personally would prefer DLP to focus on new attractions first. But I like the idea of having at least the option/land to build a new hotel that could connect to the Studios.
 
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wdrive

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mrflo said:
Some initial plans had a new hotel planned behind the coaster building of Flight Force and next to the land initially supposed to be for SW:GE. I assume that the Star Wars hotel was at least considered for DLP as well and could have fit at that location.

With the plans for SW:GE changed, would you still like to see a new hotel at that location that could fit with of the Studio's themed lands at some point? Maybe some altered Animal Kingdom Lodge style hotel to fit with the potential Lion King mini-land?

I personally would prefer DLP to focus on new attractions first. But I like the idea of having at least the option/land to build a new hotel that could connect to the Studios.
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I’d rather they built a new hotel on the lake plot first.
 
Moon knight

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mrflo said:
Some initial plans had a new hotel planned behind the coaster building of Flight Force and next to the land initially supposed to be for SW:GE. I assume that the Star Wars hotel was at least considered for DLP as well and could have fit at that location.

With the plans for SW:GE changed, would you still like to see a new hotel at that location that could fit with of the Studio's themed lands at some point? Maybe some altered Animal Kingdom Lodge style hotel to fit with the potential Lion King mini-land?

I personally would prefer DLP to focus on new attractions first. But I like the idea of having at least the option/land to build a new hotel that could connect to the Studios.
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This hotel is an old sea serpent, it was to be built in addition to the Marvel Land inspired by New York (planned in 2012/2013), then the hotel would have revived an old EuroDisney idea by imitating an aircraft carrier of the S.H.I.E.L.D visible from the land. They thought, however, that it would be more practical to re-theme New York with a Marvel theme, rather than building a brand new hotel.

It was then presented as an Art Deco hotel to respect the architecture of this district of Val d'Europe, sometimes with Disney classics and sometimes inspired by sci-fi films such as Star Wars or Avatar. I am not sure that this is still on the agenda. The hotel glued to the Disney Village seems more likely given its proximity to both the future Convention Center and the expansion of the Disney Village.
 
mrflo

mrflo

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Moon knight said:
The hotel glued to the Disney Village seems more likely given its proximity to both the future Convention Center and the expansion of the Disney Village.
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Do we know what theme the hotel between NPBC & DV could be? I hope for a Boardwalk style hotel & area to complement the theme of NPBC and have a transition to DV. Though not sure if this still fits with the more generic look they seem to be going for the DV update & expansion.
 
Sir_Cliff

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mrflo said:
Do we know what theme the hotel between NPBC & DV could be? I hope for a Boardwalk style hotel & area to complement the theme of NPBC and have a transition to DV. Though not sure if this still fits with the more generic look they seem to be going for the DV update & expansion.
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I'm a little bit nervous to see what they come up with given Disney's recent trend toward generic hotel towers and the design for the new Disney Village. Paris seems less allergic to the idea of theming than Florida, though, so I hold out some hope they would consider how the new hotel would fit alongside the existing lake hotels.

In retrospect, it was somewhat, ahh, gutsy of Disney to go so full-throttle with the Americana when originally designing their Paris resort. I'm not sure Disneyland Paris management in the 2020s would be as keen to add another hotel that continues the American themes of the existing resorts. If they did, however, a revival of the old concept for a New Orleans hotel could be nice as a bridge between France and the US that also allowed for a lively outdoor area along the lake. While there is an obvious IP tie-in, though, I suspect PatF is not big enough in Europe and the general theme not sufficiently zeitgeisty for it to be approved.
 
Moon knight

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Sir_Cliff said:
I'm a little bit nervous to see what they come up with given Disney's recent trend toward generic hotel towers and the design for the new Disney Village. Paris seems less allergic to the idea of theming than Florida, though, so I hold out some hope they would consider how the new hotel would fit alongside the existing lake hotels.
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The context is quite different. Disney has to convince Europeans that their hotels in DLP are distinctly themed with beloved Disney, Marvel or Pixar brands. There's plenty of world-renowned hotels in Paris, not so much in Orlando. They have to differenciate themselves by having some unique hotel concepts (such as The Art of MARVEL).

Disney Village can't copy Disney Springs cuz the neighbouring "Vallée Village" is already the equivalent of the Town Center of DS with its french architecture and overpriced luxury shops. Europeans go to Disney Village to find a "chic Las Vegas" and this is what it will essentially be a chic CITYWALK made by WDI.
 
Sir_Cliff

Sir_Cliff

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Moon knight said:
The context is quite different. Disney has to convince Europeans that their hotels in DLP are distinctly themed with beloved Disney, Marvel or Pixar brands. There's plenty of world-renowned hotels in Paris, not so much in Orlando. They have to differenciate themselves by having some unique hotel concepts (such as The Art of MARVEL).
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I agree that seems to be the mentality at the moment, though I'm not sure I agree that Disney IP is the only way to differentiate their hotels as, ultimately, they are themed resorts and the theming continuing from the parks to the resorts distinguishes the experience from anything you will find in Paris. One point in favour of the overarching Americana theme, for example, is that automatically distinguishes the hotels from anything you'll find nearby.

I can live with their integration of the IPs into the resorts as it has been executed in Paris, which generally seems better than in Orlando. Sadly, though, I suspect a hotel themed around a national park lodge in California as designed by Frank Lloyd Wright wouldn't be approved today even with the integration of Bambi characters in the rooms. The IP would have to be more marketable and it would be the starting point for the experience.

Hopefully, those of us who want to can just keep staying in the hotels built during another era of Disney theming.

Moon knight said:
Disney Village can't copy Disney Springs cuz the neighbouring "Vallée Village" is already the equivalent of the Town Center of DS with its french architecture and overpriced luxury shops. Europeans go to Disney Village to find a "chic Las Vegas" and this is what it will essentially be a chic CITYWALK made by WDI.
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I hope that is the case, but the artwork that has been released just looks like a generic mall to me. Seems like places I have walked through in the US, Australia, Mexico, the UK, Europe, etc. Fingers crossed, though, the execution will be better than the artwork.

Honestly, the original Festival Disney design looks more unique and eye catching. I guess they got rid of it for a reason, though.
 
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Door Coaster

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Moon knight said:
* The 2nd flat ride of the gardens wil be once again unique to Paris, it was initially designed for DCA and it's NOT a carroussel. I'll let Ally keep the exclusivity on this one so I won't spill the beans.

* The speeder-bike coaster would be, as I previously stated, the main E-ticket of this potential new themed area, so it won't be part of Discoveryland apparently. Hopefully they'll end up building a Mandalorian D-ticket ride along with it. Think about Hagrid's Motorbike Adventure ride but with Star Wars theming and some clever tricks to hide the tracks... Imagine yourself going to Star Tours and then disembarking from the Starspeeder in Discoveryland or on another planet, way more alive than the US Galaxy's Edges thanks to the speeder-bikes zooming sounds ! There still a long way to go before any of this is greenlit though...

* The Lion King ride couldn't have fit the Adventureland theme, believe me. Paris version of Adventureland is all about European's curiosity for numerous exotic regions of the world. We thus encounter Pirates, Archeologists, Genies and so on but we shouldn't be discovering that Lions are talking about kingdoms, succession or thrones. The Lion King has set a world for itself, in which not a single human being seems to live. Moreover, the African area of the land isn't big enough for the magnitude of a water based attraction showbuilding. Let Moana and the Jungle Book benefit from those expansion pads !
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Ah.

And then you don't bring it up in this post, but Ally has Pandora as a 4th land.

Also, for the second flat: What is "KUKA Arm"?

EDIT: I just realized Star Wars is gonna be a tight squeeze because there's a rumored Villains coaster going near there in 2028.

EDIT 2: Not official, oops.
 
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