peter11435
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I think we should all write e-mails to the Orlando Sentinel and others expressing are dissapproval.
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Tigger Costume Revealed In Courtroom and News Media Publishes Images
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drew81
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Well not physically shoot him. Maybe he could clean up the vomit off the Tea Cups. Or he could clean up after the horses on Main Street.
I makes me mad that kids will see this. The magic has been taken away from them, at no fault of their's. I still believe in magic. I will always support the characters and the work they do.
I makes me mad that kids will see this. The magic has been taken away from them, at no fault of their's. I still believe in magic. I will always support the characters and the work they do.
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
Guess i'm the only one who has a sense of approval. They're newsworthy photos. Its not the sentinal's fault that Kauffman decided to introduce it into evidence. Its not the Sentinal's fault that Disney did not make a motion to seal the courtroom from cameras, etc. It's not the Sentinal's fault that this case came about.
Its sensible, balanced reporting. I have no problem with what they did. The instance something becomes evidence in a public courtroom, the public has the right to know. This case was nearly plea-bargined, and in that case the costume would not have seen the light of day. Its almost as if Kauffman and Chartran want the world to see this costume, and those are the partys you should be holding responsible - Not the media.
Its sensible, balanced reporting. I have no problem with what they did. The instance something becomes evidence in a public courtroom, the public has the right to know. This case was nearly plea-bargined, and in that case the costume would not have seen the light of day. Its almost as if Kauffman and Chartran want the world to see this costume, and those are the partys you should be holding responsible - Not the media.
BenS
Member
Agreed. If anyone over the age of 10 or so (correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think we have any forum members under that age) believes these characters are real, that's, well, disturbing. (unless they have a learning disability or something, in that case it would be understandable) I don't understand why people think these images are "sick". It's the head part of a costume! Do you become sick to your stomache seeing the costumes in stores near Haloween time? No! So how is this any different? (except for this costume is higher-quality of course)burbur said:
I'm sorry if I offended anyone in this post. It was not intended.
mkt said:
Hear, hear! I want him to have a fair trial and the ONLY way that will happen is if everyone in the jury puts on the costume, jumps up and down until sick and then poses for pictures. Don't just show them the pieces, let them see what its like to be inside... :brick:
Sir Hiss527
New Member
It also sickens me to see these photos..this is like Backstage Magic. Well since I work at one of the Publix stores..I am very interested to see if any of the parents say anything, or if even the little kids say anything about it. That just worries me..so I will keep you guys informed about that.
I was just looking at those pictures yesterday on TV, and I was like "I wonder how many kids are watching this RIGHT now?" Disney is truly magic for them..don't take away that innocence at a early age. It's not a big deal for me to view the pictures, since i've always wanted to view the pictures my whole life..it just worries me about the kids.
I was just looking at those pictures yesterday on TV, and I was like "I wonder how many kids are watching this RIGHT now?" Disney is truly magic for them..don't take away that innocence at a early age. It's not a big deal for me to view the pictures, since i've always wanted to view the pictures my whole life..it just worries me about the kids.
OliveMcFly
Well-Known Member
I really hope these ppl lose the trial. It's not fair to "Tigger" (Michael?). Once again I think someone is looking to get rich. Those pictures were horrible to look at (although this is not the first time I've seen just disney heads...lol) I hope everything works out in the end.
General Grizz
New Member
You really should.mkt said:
strobe
New Member
PhotoDave219 said:
There are many things that I don't like about the media, and there are many things I disagree with PhotoDave on. This isn't one of them.
These pictures ARE disturbing, however, we have a free press and a right to free speech, and we can't have it both ways. I understand it's frustrating to see an icon that we all know and love being plastered, and de-magic-tized on the front page of a news paper. But the bottom line is the media has a right to cover this and post the photos. This is a public trial, in a public court room, and our constitution says that the media has a right to tell us about it.
The recent trend of closing court rooms for celebrities and corporation disturbs me, and I'm actually glad this trial is being kept open for once. We don't want to live in a society that runs trials in secret - trust me. I'm not taking sides on the guilt or innocence of this man, because I don't have all the facts - but I think using the costume in an unaltered form is necessary from an evidence standpoint. I don't ever want to see trial evidence being altered in any way for any reason.
I do agree that the ONLY reason the media is covering this, is because it's Disney. That's also the reason they covered OJ, Princess Diana, and a number of other cases. Maybe it's somewhat in poor taste, but nonetheless, it is their right.
As far as ruining the magic for little kids, I don't think anyone old enough to read the paper would still believe in Tigger.
Anyway - my point to all of this is that the press must be free to report what they want. So much of what is reported is trash and useless, and I won't argue that. But as soon as you say 'You can't report on this", you're treading on Free Speech. That said, I would definitely complain to the editor about this. (I think shooting him as suggested above is a bit over the top)
My last point - IF - and I am NOT prejuding, they determine that this family is lying about the accusations, I sure hope they are charged criminally for ruining this man's career and reputation. However, if it is proven BEYOND a doubt that he really did this, then he deserves to be punished as well.
That's my take...
Tigggrl
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I have to agree with MKT here...Those cameras should never have been allowed in the courtroom! This whole trial should have been closed...and Timekeeper, SHAME on you for not posting these pics with a link...when MKT offered to host them, the mature thing to do would have been to take him up on the offer. You know as well as I do, that this is a family site, and kids look at these forums all the time. People should be given the option to click on an additional link. This whole thing being out in the public eye disgusts me. It could have been handled much more discreetly. :hammer: :fork:
strobe
New Member
Tigggrl said:
I'm sorry to intervene here, and I don't mean to be rude, BUT, any child who is surfing the net unsupervised and clicking on material in forums should be plenty old enough to not believe in Tigger.
There are much worse threats out there than these pictures, even on harmless message boards like this.
No child young enough to believe that a costume is actually alive should be on ANY message board without direct supervision.
I've seen too many things happen, and I preach this to parents all of the time.
General Grizz
New Member
*whistles* . . . :lookarounstrobe said:
Tigggrl
Well-Known Member
Well, as I see it, there are plent of ways for kids to expose younger more innocent and Naieve kids to something like this, for example, older kids showing the site to younger kids...or being pulled up in the public computers and left there...I just think it would have shown more class to post the pictures with a link...
corran horn
Well-Known Member
Tigggrl said:
Heck, it was on the front page of the newspaper. That's not exactly a closely guarded thing.
General Grizz
New Member
THOUSANDS of kids - and just think about what's outside the Central Florida area - have seen this. And it's nothing less than disappointing.Tigggrl said:
Did the press have the RIGHT to do this? Yes. Did they have the GALL to do it? I guess so.
strobe
New Member
General Grizz said:THOUSANDS of kids - and just think about what's outside the Central Florida area - have seen this. And it's nothing less than disappointing.
Did the press have the RIGHT to do this? Yes. Did they have the GALL to do it? I guess so.
The state of the media is BAD. They would rather report on pop culture and commercialize trials than report on news with substance. How much coverage do you see on landmark Supreme Court decisions? About 30 seconds.
It's just a world where everything is now pop culture and reality TV - media can devote 45 minutes to air a live car chase, but only seconds to the things that really matter.
I believe in Free Press, and open trials. But as Grizz said, the content of our papers, TVs, and radio is infact appalling. Could it be because megacorporations own ALL the radio stations, TV stations, and Newspapers? That's a different argument for a different board, but something to think about.
We can blame the editors first, because they're the ones who air it -- we can blame ourselves second, because we're the ones who watch this trash and give it the ratings.
Newsworthy
I'm sorry that I don't check this board as often as many of you do. I just now read replies that objected to the posting of the news images in the initial thread, and have updated it.
You know what's funny, I found demolition images, the 20,000 demolition in particular, to be 100 times more disturbing than the Tigger courtroom images. And I don't recall reading any replies about how those images should not have been posted. (In particular, demolitions like Small World that are NOT in public view to guests and that Disney obviously wants hidden.) But I guess that's just me.
Regardless of my personal opinions, I have removed the images from my initial post at the requests posted by a few of our fellow members. You may now click on the link to view my album. Keep in mind that, as album space is limited, I may decide to remove them once this news topic subsides.
And mkt, if you want to copy-paste the images from my album onto your site to be hosted from, that's fine. Then I can update the link to your site so they will still be available after they're removed from my album.
Timekeeper
I'm sorry that I don't check this board as often as many of you do. I just now read replies that objected to the posting of the news images in the initial thread, and have updated it.
You know what's funny, I found demolition images, the 20,000 demolition in particular, to be 100 times more disturbing than the Tigger courtroom images. And I don't recall reading any replies about how those images should not have been posted. (In particular, demolitions like Small World that are NOT in public view to guests and that Disney obviously wants hidden.) But I guess that's just me.
Regardless of my personal opinions, I have removed the images from my initial post at the requests posted by a few of our fellow members. You may now click on the link to view my album. Keep in mind that, as album space is limited, I may decide to remove them once this news topic subsides.
And mkt, if you want to copy-paste the images from my album onto your site to be hosted from, that's fine. Then I can update the link to your site so they will still be available after they're removed from my album.
Timekeeper