I'd imagine it is full of horror stories. No one on the TBA team inspired confidence in their abilities to competently complete something like this.
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News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress
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Looks like it's open today but how well it runs is questionable.
FettFan
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Probably locked behind an NDA.
ToTBellHop
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The AA team, as usual, did exceptional work. WDI still excels here. But, the best figures are so expensive that we can’t actually get rides with dozens of actual AAs any more.
And no one seems to have noticed that part of what many loved about Splash was how cute the secondary characters were, especially their voices. They made Splash really charming.
I wish they had recorded some vocals for the new characters.
doctornick
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I don't know for sure, but some have reported that Splash generally got the highest Guest satisfaction ratings of any ride in the park. So I think it was conceivable that it was the "most popular" ride - though that's always somewhat of a nebulous and undefinable concept.
To your point though, nobody particularly runs to HM or POTC at rope drop either and they are probably also in contention for the most popular rides at Disney parks. I think the reality is that rides with poorer capacity tend to drawn that kind of attention simple because they build up lines more quickly.
Dan Deesnee
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But you're not really thinking about it the way Disney would. That is potentially 2 to 300,000 parents that are watching this ride video and we're planning on potentially going to MK sometime in the next year. Partially, no doubt, because of this new ride.
They then watch it, are underwhelmed, read the comments, and decide to save their money and go elsewhere.
That's ~200,000 families so, roughly 800k-1 million people.
Then assume that they will mention this to friends and family, doubtless some of which will had heard about the new ride and may have been thinking of going down themselves.
The number is still low when looking at an entire year's worth of attendance and assuming massive potential errors with the numbers above - since it's a small data set. But I would absolutely not write off the power of bad word of mouth and negative press, combined with millions of people being disenfranchised with Disney in general over the past few years. THEN add in the juggernaut that will be Epic Universe, opening next summer, andDisney could be in serious trouble here.
doctornick
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Exactly. That's the troubling thing - it's not that the Imagineers didn't have enough funds - not to mention a great baseline ride system and space - to make an exception ride. It's that they seemingly weren't capable of making something anywhere near as entertaining and engaging as Splash. Yes, it's a high bar to clear, but I think it unfortunately does speak more to the talent of the current crop of engineers than the resources they were given to work with.
I tend to believe a large issue with that is that they would benefit from having people come from a movie/theater/animation background who work more with telling stories and visual media. There is a reason why Walt's animator team was so outstanding in pivoting to rides.
Goofnut1980
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I feel it looks well done. Can't comment much on the story aspect until I ride it for myself. The silly concerns I have is this.
Disney is terrible at maintaining things. Which means, how long until a simple projector around water all the time, stops working then the screens go dark. Also, simple things like the vegetables swinging on the upper part that overlooks the bridge, how long until those stop swinging. They can put out a great product but forget some of their Keys... like, Show!
Disney is terrible at maintaining things. Which means, how long until a simple projector around water all the time, stops working then the screens go dark. Also, simple things like the vegetables swinging on the upper part that overlooks the bridge, how long until those stop swinging. They can put out a great product but forget some of their Keys... like, Show!
wdw71fan
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1. This ride 'refresh' was never going to be as 'good' as Splash Mountain. Thankfully this isn't as bad a Frozen.
3. Splash was allowed to exceed budget in some areas. I won't elaborate, but many at WDI declined the opportunity to work on the project because of the polarizing nature of the work.
4. Baxter was being Baxter, which is both good and bad. But I digress.
3. Splash was allowed to exceed budget in some areas. I won't elaborate, but many at WDI declined the opportunity to work on the project because of the polarizing nature of the work.
4. Baxter was being Baxter, which is both good and bad. But I digress.
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trainplane3
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You know with how bad Imagination and SSE are, if this is what a fully funded attraction looks like then I don't want them touching them. The fact this and GotG have pretty crap stories as well makes me concerned about future "new" attractions. AA's look fantastic at the very least.
TheCoasterNerd
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- In the Parks
- No
General Public aren't going to cancel their trip to the world's most famous four theme parks (with 51 other iconic rides to do, and countless world-class entertainment offerings) because one ride is a little underwhelming to a few thousand superfans.
The thought occurred to me today that a lot of the leadership on this previously did Runaway Railway, which is very funny because the plot beats of that would almost perfectly fit the overall track of this ride. So it's not like they aren't capable of writing something that fits that, they just... Actively chose to make the plot incongruous with the ride experience.
All these teams need direction and vision. They made the technical parts work nicely but it seem like there was no one shaping the overall direction of the project.
Goofnut1980
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Anymore its turning into rollercoaster land but because it rains, they put them inside a box and its earth shattering.
I was just talking to some friends.. Can we get that classic Disney dark ride back. Look at the wait for something like Haunted Mansion. It can be just as long as some of the new stuff. Not everything needs to be a thrill ride. The ways of being a family-friendly park are slowly diminishing. Not too many new rides are made for all age groups, and I don't even have kids. To see the detail in older attractions is amazing. New stuff is a rollercoaster in a big box with some projectors on some flat surfaces. And that still takes 3 years to build.. LOL
lightningtap347
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After 700+ pages, we're arguing about whether or not Splash was popular? Really?
Mr. Sullivan
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With who this is my question. I am a WDW guest mainly. I only visited DLR for the first time this year. For the several years leading up to my trip, I’ve seen nothing but positive things in Disney spaces and other non-Disney specific faces about it. The consensus I’ve seen is that it’s an improvement on the ride system of ToT and makes it more exciting with a more intense and fun drop sequence, even if the IP isn’t everyone’s favorite. The only contentious point I’ve seen after it opened and people experienced it was its outside appearance.
MerlinTheGoat
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Not sure if you know this or not, but has there been any sort of recognition, concern or any sort of acknowledgement towards the negative reaction this ride has gotten from people in power?
Incomudro
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When things go down on this ride, it'll suffer more than Splash did.
Far more.
As I've said a number of times, the Splash scenes even work when static.
There's a story, and action worked out in each frame if you will.
Every frame on Tiana's is either a single AA waiting to tell us what's going on, or a cluster of AA's as a band.
If they're not moving, there is nothing else going on.
It's readily apparent in the scene by scene comparisons that are prevalent on youtube.
You kidding?
They have their own little echo chamber.
Next step is to blame the fans.