News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

[Chi84]

You're the one with the more difficult argument. You're trying to argue that Iger has never visited the attraction and made notes. I'm suggesting that it's completely plausible, if not overwhelmingly likely, that Iger has visited the site of the attraction he green lighted.

The Haunted Mansion movie was already approaching its terminus by the time Iger stepped on board. Iger was aware it was going to bomb. Fixes to make the film palatable would have been more expensive than they were worth. That ship had sailed.

It's not remotely equivalent to an attraction that Iger personally approved, and that will last for decades. Getting it right does matter. Why on Earth would he tour the site of one upcoming attraction, and not another? Ultimately, I guess this is a agree to disagree sort of thing.


I don't know. I'm not Bob Weis. If he's a liar on his own social media page, that's a pretty bad indictment of his ethics and morality.

It’s not an agree to disagree sort of thing. It’s a fact that neither of you knows.

 

[celluloid]

You're the one with the more difficult argument. You're trying to argue that Iger has never visited the attraction and made notes. I'm suggesting that it's completely plausible, if not overwhelmingly likely, that Iger has visited the site of the attraction he green lighted.

No argument. Bob Iger has not stepped foot on that site for any sort of tour.

An E ticket of thrill and prominence in the Magic Kingdom, even if it was meh, will never lose the near 200 million a movie flop would.

No one said he should not have. It is fair to say he should have.

He hasn't.

Josh has. Other Park specific execs have.

Bob Weiss saying he admires executive leadership in any poetic language does not mean Bob Iger was hands on for a tour of the retheme of Splash Mountain last year.

 

[HauntedPirate]

If the words, "you are the magic" are uttered by a character at any point in this ride...

 

[Starship824]

The suspense from Splash could be carried over if one or more of the critters are in real danger later in the ride

Since Dr. Facilier won't be in the ride, maybe his "friends on the other side" will be and that's why we have to find Mama Odie to save one of the critters from the "friends on the other side".

 

[BrianLo]

I can't believe it hasn't been said... the missing ingredients are animatronics. Masterclass in trolling WDI. I think we could have cut this thread in quarter and relieved a whole lot of angst.

 

[headintheclouds]

Since Dr. Facilier won't be in the ride, maybe his "friends on the other side" will be and that's why we have to find Mama Odie to save one of the critters from the "friends on the other side".

Was that ever confirmed? There was talk he may have been added in.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Was that ever confirmed? There was talk he may have been added in.

My guess is that it was just blind hope built on top of the claims about Iger taking a tour and demanding revisions (which again seems to have been BS). People also latched onto the news of Keith David's appearance at a PATF related event the other day, thinking they would also be announcing his inclusion in the ride at said event. In actuality, it was just him doing a performance of Friends on the Other Side. Jim Cummings also made an appearance at the same event to do some singing as Ray. I doubt Facilier will be in the final product unfortunately.

 

[Starship824]

Was that ever confirmed? There was talk he may have been added in.

Well, it takes place after the movie and uhh, you know, he died at the end of the movie lol.

 

[MisterPenguin]

The suspense from Splash could be carried over if one or more of the critters are in real danger later in the ride

Louis becomes so hungry from the delay in beignets, that he becomes atavistic and tries to eat the critter-band!!

 

[headintheclouds]

Well, it takes place after the movie and uhh, you know, he died at the end of the movie lol.

I realize that, but I was hearing his shadow may appear briefly. Which along with singing animals wouldn’t have been out of the realm of possibility. All of it is hearsay, my question was asked because I didn’t know if I missed anything based off of your post.

 

[headintheclouds]

My guess is that it was just blind hope built on top of the claims about Iger taking a tour and demanding revisions (which again seems to have been BS). People also latched onto the news of Keith David's appearance at a PATF related event the other day, thinking they would also be announcing his inclusion in the ride at said event. In actuality, it was just him doing a performance of Friends on the Other Side. Jim Cummings also made an appearance at the same event to do some singing as Ray. I doubt Facilier will be in the final product unfortunately.

Gotcha. That would’ve been great for both of them to appear. Even though Ray is gone like a nod to him somehow in the ride would’ve been awesome.

 

[Bocabear]

Well, it takes place after the movie and uhh, you know, he died at the end of the movie lol.

Did he die? Seriously....He did not technically die, he was dragged to the other side to pay his debt.....That does not mean for certain he is dead, but now trapped on the other side.....unless he figures out a way to cross back over through the spirit realm... So the story can continue.....if they want it to....

 

[Starship824]

Did he die? Seriously....He did not technically die, he was dragged to the other side to pay his debt.....That does not mean for certain he is dead, but now trapped on the other side.....unless he figures out a way to cross back over through the spirit realm... So the story can continue.....if they want it to....

I mean, I hope so. I would love to him in the attraction.

 

[MerlinTheGoat]

Did he die? Seriously....He did not technically die, he was dragged to the other side to pay his debt.....That does not mean for certain he is dead, but now trapped on the other side.....unless he figures out a way to cross back over through the spirit realm... So the story can continue.....if they want it to....

Or instead, we could have been transported to where he is (and justified a cameo from Ray as well). There were plenty of ways to include him while also making the ride post-film.

 

[DisneyDodo]

Gotcha. That would’ve been great for both of them to appear. Even though Ray is gone like a nod to him somehow in the ride would’ve been awesome.

I’m sure we’ll get an Easter egg of Ray in star form alongside Evangeline

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I know people like to assume Facilier won't be included in Tiana's Bayou Adventure because they think Disney is trying to divest from the character, but I almost wonder if they maybe just have something in mind for him in Villains Land and didn't want another of their popular villains appearing elsewhere in The Magic Kingdom.

Total guess, but doesn't seem impossible. They already have Ursula, Gaston, Captain Hook, The Wicked Queen (in Hag form) somewhat prominently featured in other MK locations. I don't totally see that stopping Disney from letting those characters appear in a Villains Land, but maybe they don't want to spread them out any more than they already have.

 

[SplashJacket]

I know people like to assume Facilier won't be included in Tiana's Bayou Adventure because they think Disney is trying to divest from the character, but I almost wonder if they maybe just have something in mind for him in Villains Land and didn't want another of their popular villains appearing elsewhere in The Magic Kingdom.

Total guess, but doesn't seem impossible. They already have Ursula, Gaston, Captain Hook, The Wicked Queen (in Hag form) somewhat prominently featured in other MK locations. I don't totally see that stopping Disney from letting those characters appear in a Villains Land, but maybe they don't want to spread them out any more than they already have.

I doubt that.

A villains land should probably feature Chernabog and Maleficent prominently and maybe even Nightmare Before Christmas. I don’t see much value in holding out characters.

 

[Bocabear]

Every one of those characters is dead if you think about it...the Princesses all died, in some cases, hundreds of years ago... So honestly...the linear reality of the characters is not absolute...or Tiana would be over 110 years old... So ummmm.... yeah.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

I doubt that.

A villains land should probably feature Chernabog and Maleficent prominently and maybe even Nightmare Before Christmas. I don’t see much value in holding out characters.

I'm sure it would feature those, but they've got a big long list of baddies. I'd think a big Villains Land expansion wouldn't focus on just a few, it would be the place you could reasonably expect to find many of them - at least the ones of a certain ilk.

I don't think Hans would set up shop in Villains Land, for example, or Dawn Bellweather or Alma Madrigal, but the older-school, conniving, mustache twirling, good-to-be-bad ones probably would. The ones who could be found lurking in the shadows up to no good, stealing away to a secret meeting in a spooky tavern or hiding in a secret lair in Bald Mountain.

Dr. Facilier falls more into that sort of category with Maleficent, Captain Hook, Jafar, Cruella, The Wicked Queen, Hades, The Queen of Hearts, and Chernabog than he falls in line with, like, the contemporary twist-villains Disney's been doing lately. Those don't seem wicked enough to fit the bill. I would think Villains Land would play host to a smattering of those evil guys in one way or another, not just be home to a small handful.

 

[SplashJacket]

I'm sure it would feature those, but they've got a big long list of baddies. I'd think a big Villains Land expansion wouldn't focus on just a few, it would be the place you could reasonably expect to find many of them - at least the ones of a certain ilk.

I don't think Hans would set up shop in Villains Land, for example, or Dawn Bellweather or Alma Madrigal, but the older-school, conniving, mustache twirling, good-to-be-bad ones probably would. The ones who could be found lurking in the shadows up to no good, stealing away to a secret meeting in a spooky tavern or hiding in a secret lair in Bald Mountain.

Dr. Facilier falls more into that sort of category with Maleficent, Captain Hook, Jafar, Cruella, The Wicked Queen, Hades, The Queen of Hearts, and Chernabog than he falls in line with, like, the contemporary twist-villains Disney's been doing lately. Those don't seem wicked enough to fit the bill. I would think Villains Land would play host to a smattering of those evil guys in one way or another, not just be home to a small handful.

I agree, but I also don't think they would use that as a primary reason to exclude him from TBA.

I could be wrong, but that would've required a huge amount of planning for a project that may or may not happen and would likely only include him as a peripheral, not a primary focus.

If we were talking about Maleficent or Chernabog, sure, I'd agree, because if we get a villain land, I would expect them to be primary focuses, but as you listed, he's one of many great Villains that would fit.