News Tiana's Bayou Adventure - latest details and construction progress

The timeline for this attraction was always intended to be brief - Late 2024 was the announced date when the ride closed in January 2023. That they've managed to shave several months off of that doesn't seem to be in any direct way related to Epic Universe (which you can say here). The Magic Kingdom is lacking one of its major E Tickets while this transformation is being done, under any circumstance they would want to get that attraction capacity back online as soon as possible.
Yea that would be the “safe” way to think about this but you have to think bigger picture context when in concern for this. You aren’t really taking in the major beyond big thunder construction idea with a park just north of you also making a whole new park.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Yea that would be the “safe” way to think about this but you have to think bigger picture context when in concern for this. You aren’t really taking in the major beyond big thunder construction idea with a park just north of you also making a whole new park.
The construction of Tiana's Bayou Adventure was not sped up in an attempt to compete with Epic Universe, since that seems to be what you're speculating.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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The timeline for this attraction was always intended to be brief - Late 2024 was the announced date when the ride closed in January 2023. That they've managed to shave several months off of that doesn't seem to be in any direct way related to Epic Universe (which you can say here). The Magic Kingdom is lacking one of its major E Tickets while this transformation is being done, under any circumstance they would want to get that attraction capacity back online as soon as possible.
One reason I was told for why the attraction was moved to summer is because WDI believed that pushing to get this open quicker would force corporate to make decisions on other blue sky projects that had yet to receive a greenlit. Like the Beyond Big Thunder stuff and even Dinoland.

From what it appears, they did get permission to expedite Tiana's opening at least. Though it doesn't sound like it had much of an effect on the other projects they were hoping to get approved. A summer opening always made the most sense strategically though, so that's probably why corporate allowed the date shift.

I also don't really think Tiana has anything to do with a response to Epic either, at least not directly (the other projects on the other hand). This ride is not really being treated as competition to what Uni is doing over there.

What matters is further asserting an assumption despite being shown disproving evidence. Telling others "Believe what you want" when they're gently correcting you with proof certainly suggests you're being rubbed the wrong way.

But this new fence is far from a major concern. It's certainly not a "sky is falling" moment - which, for the record, I would extend to my entire well-documented opinion of Tiana's Bayou Adventure. This ride has many detractors, but I have not been one of them.

Just trying to be clear about the truth. The fence is new, which is interesting because it does look like it features equipment (Lighting? Sound?) that Splash did not include before.
Part of me wondered if the railing was temporary. Like maybe they were testing out lighting or some other new hardware or something. With the railing serving as both a temporary rig to support that hardware along with a safety feature for the crew working in that area so they don't fall of the side into the chute chasm. But the fact that they painted it green makes me think they may be planning on using it in a more permanent manner. Albeit I would expect that they intend to cover it with greenery if so. We'll see. You're right though, I definitely don't recall that railing being there.
 
The construction of Tiana's Bayou Adventure was not sped up in an attempt to compete with Epic Universe, since that seems to be what you're speculating.

One reason I was told for why the attraction was moved to summer is because WDI believed that pushing to get this open quicker would force corporate to make decisions on other blue sky projects that had yet to receive a greenlit. Like the Beyond Big Thunder stuff and even Dinoland.

From what it appears, they did get permission to expedite Tiana's opening at least. Though it doesn't sound like it had much of an effect on the other projects they were hoping to get approved. A summer opening always made the most sense strategically though, so that's probably why corporate allowed the date shift.

I also don't really think Tiana has anything to do with a response to Epic either, at least not directly (the other projects on the other hand). This ride is not really being treated as competition to what Uni is doing over there.


Part of me wondered if the railing was temporary. Like maybe they were testing out lighting or some other new hardware or something. With the railing serving as both a temporary rig to support that hardware along with a safety feature for the crew working in that area so they don't fall of the side into the chute chasm. But the fact that they painted it green makes me think they may be planning on using it in a more permanent manner. Albeit I would expect that they intend to cover it with greenery if so. We'll see. You're right though, I definitely don't recall that railing being there.

Correct and incorrect, the press release and timing were already confirmed to be sped up in accordance to what epic universe realized prior with the release and video. Now we can speculate the timing but not the cause and effect. I think that is pretty clear
 

SilentWindODoom

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I admit I'm making an assumption. Does it really matter to you whether a fence was there or not when its going to be covered up? Who's getting rubbed the wrong way here? Every day, any deviation from Splash, other than the theming obviously, I'm reading variations of "the sky is falling."

There are many moments of the sky being declared falling on this project, including its very existence. Most of it is nothing. Absolutely nothing. People grasping at straws.

I'm firmly of the belief of "Wait and See" and not jumping to nonsensical conclusions. That being said, a big industrial railing in that location would be a detraction. Yes, if it's not covered, it would matter. It would be bad show. It's why I mentioned earlier hoping that any railings inside that codes require hopefully are hidden the way the art suggests this is. Looks like it's going to be a non-issue, but if the railing isn't covered it would indeed suck.

On the subject of the lights, I also thought they were there. I know lights shone on the drop. Now I'm curious as to where those lights actually were this whole time.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Correct and incorrect, the press release and timing were already confirmed to be sped up in accordance to what epic universe realized prior with the release and video. Now we can speculate the timing but not the cause and effect. I think that is pretty clear
Confirmed? Do you have a source for that?

My source told me that they sped up the project both just to get it open earlier (due to MK needing the capacity and also aiming for a more appropriate season), as well as trying to force corporate to make decisions on future projects. I've never heard anything to indicate this ride or its abbreviated timeline are considered a response to Epic. I was also told about the abbreviated construction period in June last year, long before anyone else caught on that the ride would open sooner than originally intended.
 

yensidtlaw1969

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On the subject of the lights, I also thought they were there. I know lights shone on the drop. Now I'm curious as to where those lights actually were this whole time.
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Confirmed? Do you have a source for that?

My source told me that they sped up the project both just to get it open earlier (due to MK needing the capacity and also aiming for a more appropriate season), as well as trying to force corporate to make decisions on future projects. I've never heard anything to indicate this ride or its abbreviated timeline are considered a response to Epic. I was also told about the abbreviated construction period in June last year, long before anyone else caught on that the ride would open sooner than originally intended.

Pretty confirmed and sourced, yes. I highly doubt that the seasonal excuse could be the only reasoning with the relation to park capacity. But i think they also caught wind of the announcement of universal long before you knew of this announcement as well and planned for the speed up to match the announcement thus cancelling out any reasoning that it wasn’t related
 

yensidtlaw1969

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Pretty confirmed and sourced, yes. I highly doubt that the seasonal excuse could be the only reasoning with the relation to park capacity. But i think they also caught wind of the announcement of universal long before you knew of this announcement as well and planned for the speed up to match the announcement thus cancelling out any reasoning that it wasn’t related
With respect, the timing of TBA's opening has nothing to do with Epic Universe.
 

bpiper

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The rides down a year and a half and they couldn't patch up the spot they ripped Br'er Rabbit off?

They probably feel that the paint will fade in the sun to match.

What I am more concerned about is the missing paint and scratches on the fiberglass molding in front of the pads. That should have been touched up too.

So it looks like they did the bare minimum.
 

bpiper

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Perhaps they want to make sure the logs are finished closer to opening and need to test now, so might as well throw them all out there than pluck them out for the work?

Weren't there pics at the start of construction of the boats being sent out on a flat bed for work? I think the logs ARE finished.
 

JohnD

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There are many moments of the sky being declared falling on this project, including its very existence. Most of it is nothing. Absolutely nothing. People grasping at straws.

I'm firmly of the belief of "Wait and See" and not jumping to nonsensical conclusions. That being said, a big industrial railing in that location would be a detraction. Yes, if it's not covered, it would matter. It would be bad show. It's why I mentioned earlier hoping that any railings inside that codes require hopefully are hidden the way the art suggests this is. Looks like it's going to be a non-issue, but if the railing isn't covered it would indeed suck.

On the subject of the lights, I also thought they were there. I know lights shone on the drop. Now I'm curious as to where those lights actually were this whole time.
Of course I don't have proof, but as illustrated earlier in concept art, there is "foliage" in that location so I have every reason to believe that green fence will be hidden. That's what led me to the belief that fence was already there when the briar patch was in that location. So there was no fence then. If the intention was to build the fence for the lights, there is no possible reason to believe that the imagineers wouldn't hide it.
 

JohnD

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What matters is further asserting an assumption despite being shown disproving evidence. Telling others "Believe what you want" when they're gently correcting you with proof certainly suggests you're being rubbed the wrong way.

But this new fence is far from a major concern. It's certainly not a "sky is falling" moment - which, for the record, I would extend to my entire well-documented opinion of Tiana's Bayou Adventure. This ride has many detractors, but I have not been one of them.

Just trying to be clear about the truth. The fence is new, which is interesting because it does look like it features equipment (Lighting? Sound?) that Splash did not include before.
Speaking of assertions, how do you know this fence is "new"? When you look at the photo below, all I see is a bunch of briars. For all we know, that fence was underneath. So don't sit there all smug saying I'm making assertions when you don't have a clue either. At least I can make a reasonable assumption it was underneath the briars the entire time and not declare it wasn't there at all when you have no way of knowing.

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With respect, the timing of TBA's opening has nothing to do with Epic Universe.

Why would opening it earlier in 2024 have an impact on booking and attendance for a new park opening a year later?

If that was the case, it would be opening around the same time in an attempt to syphon off a day of someone's universal trip.

Yes, they wanted to avoid this all together but they are related and a push for lack of betters words “competition”. It is for sure related and sped up to accommodate i think we can all agree on. Now the question is if there will be more to this which i can assure you there is
 

SilentWindODoom

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Of course I don't have proof, but as illustrated earlier in concept art, there is "foliage" in that location so I have every reason to believe that green fence will be hidden. That's what led me to the belief that fence was already there when the briar patch was in that location. So there was no fence then. If the intention was to build the fence for the lights, there is no possible reason to believe that the imagineers wouldn't hide it.

I agree. All signs point to it being hidden. I was just referring to your words of... and I just realized that I misread "Does it really matter to you whether a fence was there or not when its going to be covered up?" as "Does it really matter to you whether a fence that was there or not is going to be covered up?"

:cautious: My bad.
 

JohnD

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I agree. All signs point to it being hidden. I was just referring to your words of... and I just realized that I misread "Does it really matter to you whether a fence was there or not when its going to be covered up?" as "Does it really matter to you whether a fence that was there or not is going to be covered up?"

:cautious: My bad.
I'm going to revise my statement. It has been stated the fence is "new". We don't know that. Looking at those photos, there is plenty of briar theming that could very well have covered a fence. So I'm comfortable saying there might have been one there. But I won't blatantly assert one was never there where theming in the very location would cover up any evidence of one being there or not.
 
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yensidtlaw1969

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Speaking of assertions, how do you know this fence is "new"? When you look at the photo below, all I see is a bunch of briars. For all we know, that fence was underneath. So don't sit there all smug saying I'm making assertions when you don't have a clue either. At least I can make a reasonable assumption it was underneath the briars the entire time and not declare it wasn't there at all when you have no way of knowing.

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No, for all you know the fence was underneath - but I'm familiar with how the Briars were constructed, and there was no fence under them because there was no under them. The Briars were a mass of individual tubes twisting out from the concrete floor below the waterline. You could see through them. A fence would be visible through them if it were hidden amongst the Briars, which it wasn't.

Here's a clip where you can see right through the Briars from multiple angles - no fence visible anywhere through:



Here's a gif of a TBA construction shot laid over a shot of the Briar Patch - look through, no fence:

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Here are 2 TBA construction photos from February last year after they started removing the Briars - there's some scaffolding, but no fence:

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It's fine not to know about this, but there's no need to discount the fact that other people do. I'm not being smug, I'm just telling you the truth. You're the one saying that since you don't know it must simply be unknowable.
 

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