Thoughts - Just Returned

graphite1326

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Our last trip was 2016. We stayed at POP. same as before - Love the refurbished rooms. We had a queen size bed and a Murphy Bed (which we didn't use) and made the room seem so much bigger. No carpet. Sliding doors to the sink area and another the bathtub/toilet area. A separate cabinet for the frig with an added coffee maker. Loved this since I hate the coffee they serve in the food court. Huge TV. Awesome.

More scooters and strollers than I have ever seen before. Waiting on scooters to be loaded was almost on every bus and two more often than just one. On every previous trip they were few and far between (just an observation not an argument) However, in some places they did make them go through the line rather than them going directly to the front. As far as strollers they are bigger these days and take a lot of room up. However, if they weren't broke down by the time they got to the door we were told a couple of times to walk by them and get on. (on a side note: it was announced over the loud speakers while waiting in a queue: "if the party in front of you does not move ahead, go around them").

The parks didn't seem that crowed and wait times were reasonable. Our first day at HS a 15 minute wait on TOT was pretty much what we saw until we left around 3:00 in the afternoon (We actually rode Slinky, Alien Saucers, TSMM, ToT, & RnRcoaster all before our first FP kicked in at 10:20. So we rode ToT, RnRcoaster, and TSMM again. Note this was on an early entry day). We saw 15 minute waits for Soarin in EPCOT(rode it, ate breakfast, rode it again with no wait) , but TT was over 60 minutes and Frozen was 60-80 minutes.

Also, using early entry and FP we got to ride FoP 4 times without a wait. Awesome ride loved it. Na'vi River was about a 40 minute wait both times we rode it. I liked the ride even though some here don't. I would recommend going on t.

After leaving HS we went to MK to do a few things and catch the fireworks since it was on a non-Halloween Party day. The new fireworks show is amazing. The best the have put on.

HOWEVER, we could not believe the bus line when we got to our station. It took up two bays. 7 complete lines inside the rails and extended down the walkway. It took us 6 buses, which 2 were the doubles, to finally get on. I looked behind us when I got on and the line was still quite long. This happened again after going to the River of Lights show at AK. These two experiences were so unpleasant we did not go to any more night entertainment shows. These are not the only two times that we had come across long bus lines for POP. It happened at our resort and changed our plans and got on a different bus. After leaving a park, we could always tell where the POP bus station was when approaching the bus stations. It was always, yes always, the longest and most crowded station. I know POP is very popular but if they have a resort that large they should have the bus service to accommodate. With this experience I cannot recommend going to POP to anyone who asks my opinion.

All in all we made the best of our trip and had a great time.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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HOWEVER, we could not believe the bus line when we got to our station. It took up two bays. 7 complete lines inside the rails and extended down the walkway. It took us 6 buses, which 2 were the doubles, to finally get on. I looked behind us when I got on and the line was still quite long. This happened again after going to the River of Lights show at AK. These two experiences were so unpleasant we did not go to any more night entertainment shows. These are not the only two times that we had come across long bus lines for POP. It happened at our resort and changed our plans and got on a different bus. After leaving a park, we could always tell where the POP bus station was when approaching the bus stations. It was always, yes always, the longest and most crowded station. I know POP is very popular but if they have a resort that large they should have the bus service to accommodate. With this experience I cannot recommend going to POP to anyone who asks my opinion.

All in all we made the best of our trip and had a great time.

This is why I try to jump on the AoA bus..Many Times I've been there it wouldn't be as busy and the benefit of the Bridge connecting both hotels is worth it....But, now with the Adding of the Skyway....Whhhoooo nelly is this going to make this worse..Because everyone and their Hamster will be wanting to take the advantage of the Val-Mods....
 

larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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This is why I try to jump on the AoA bus..Many Times I've been there it wouldn't be as busy and the benefit of the Bridge connecting both hotels is worth it....But, now with the Adding of the Skyway....Whhhoooo nelly is this going to make this worse..Because everyone and their Hamster will be wanting to take the advantage of the Val-Mods....
Like I've said before... dropping a Skyliner station at the International Gateway entrance to Epcot will negate any advantage of staying at the Epcot area resorts.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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Like I've said before... dropping a Skyliner station at the International Gateway entrance to Epcot will negate any advantage of staying at the Epcot area resorts.

Agreed...It would have been that way if they did it to All Stars via a Connection at Cornado to AK
 

graphite1326

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ADDED THOUGHT; I forgot a couple of things.

When entering Hall of the Presidents you are greeted by 3 security people. One officer as you enter and two on either side of the stage. They leave as the show starts.

American Adventure Show; All the Confederate flags have been removed along with the Don't Tread On Me flag.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

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American Adventure Show; All the Confederate flags have been removed along with the Don't Tread On Me flag.

What about the Don't Tread on Me Flag inside Liberty Tavern?
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joejccva71

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I'm glad you had an overall good time at the parks. When I went in May 2018, I also noticed the huge increase in strollers and ECV's and they take up a huge amount of space when trying to walk around when it's crowded.

Buses were pretty crowded for us as well. After the parks closing, the buses going to Disney Springs were a nightmare and was better to just take Uber or Lyft instead.

Anyway, glad you had a good trip.
 

graphite1326

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Argue? I was curious if that was the one you were mentioning..I never recalled seeing it in the hall of flags...I've only seen this one in the restaurant...:confused:
I believe that's it on the right (yellow). I could be wrong but still looking for a better picture. Nevertheless there are a lot less flags now.
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Cmdr_Crimson

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I believe that's it on the right (yellow). I could be wrong but still looking for a better picture. Nevertheless there are a lot less flags now.
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Okay Thanks! I never knew there was another one there...I'm just passing it by like everyone else does...As I mentioned I've only had seen the one in the adjacent building.. Very interesting tho..

Oh! I believe you might be correct..Found a better pic from mouseplanet..You can see it a little better....
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Disneyfreak Jen

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I have also experienced the ridiculously extra long bus lines for POP. That is the only thing I don’t like about that resort. They need to have more busses running.

In regards to the scooters, I’ve been saying for years that they should have a special van or small bus that picks them up, and have it run every hour on the hour. It wastes so much time to load them, and they take up so much room, and if they have a large group with them or if there are 2 or 3 scooters on one bus it prevents a lot of other people from boarding....even if those people without the scooter were on line first. They really need to come up with a better idea.
 

peoplemover

Active Member
Our last trip was 2016. We stayed at POP. same as before - Love the refurbished rooms. We had a queen size bed and a Murphy Bed (which we didn't use) and made the room seem so much bigger. No carpet. Sliding doors to the sink area and another the bathtub/toilet area. A separate cabinet for the frig with an added coffee maker. Loved this since I hate the coffee they serve in the food court. Huge TV. Awesome.

More scooters and strollers than I have ever seen before. Waiting on scooters to be loaded was almost on every bus and two more often than just one. On every previous trip they were few and far between (just an observation not an argument) However, in some places they did make them go through the line rather than them going directly to the front. As far as strollers they are bigger these days and take a lot of room up. However, if they weren't broke down by the time they got to the door we were told a couple of times to walk by them and get on. (on a side note: it was announced over the loud speakers while waiting in a queue: "if the party in front of you does not move ahead, go around them").

The parks didn't seem that crowed and wait times were reasonable. Our first day at HS a 15 minute wait on TOT was pretty much what we saw until we left around 3:00 in the afternoon (We actually rode Slinky, Alien Saucers, TSMM, ToT, & RnRcoaster all before our first FP kicked in at 10:20. So we rode ToT, RnRcoaster, and TSMM again. Note this was on an early entry day). We saw 15 minute waits for Soarin in EPCOT(rode it, ate breakfast, rode it again with no wait) , but TT was over 60 minutes and Frozen was 60-80 minutes.

Also, using early entry and FP we got to ride FoP 4 times without a wait. Awesome ride loved it. Na'vi River was about a 40 minute wait both times we rode it. I liked the ride even though some here don't. I would recommend going on t.

After leaving HS we went to MK to do a few things and catch the fireworks since it was on a non-Halloween Party day. The new fireworks show is amazing. The best the have put on.

HOWEVER, we could not believe the bus line when we got to our station. It took up two bays. 7 complete lines inside the rails and extended down the walkway. It took us 6 buses, which 2 were the doubles, to finally get on. I looked behind us when I got on and the line was still quite long. This happened again after going to the River of Lights show at AK. These two experiences were so unpleasant we did not go to any more night entertainment shows. These are not the only two times that we had come across long bus lines for POP. It happened at our resort and changed our plans and got on a different bus. After leaving a park, we could always tell where the POP bus station was when approaching the bus stations. It was always, yes always, the longest and most crowded station. I know POP is very popular but if they have a resort that large they should have the bus service to accommodate. With this experience I cannot recommend going to POP to anyone who asks my opinion.

All in all we made the best of our trip and had a great time.

We had the same experience with buses during our trip 09/13-09/18. We stayed at POP and noticed there were a lot of people using scooters. It definitely added to the wait times on getting into the buses. We ended up taking Lyft back to the hotel each night after dealing with the extremely long lines a few times. Still a great trip, though! Just a lesson learned for next time.
 

graphite1326

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Original Poster
We had the same experience with buses during our trip 09/13-09/18. We stayed at POP and noticed there were a lot of people using scooters. It definitely added to the wait times on getting into the buses. We ended up taking Lyft back to the hotel each night after dealing with the extremely long lines a few times. Still a great trip, though! Just a lesson learned for next time.

Thought about using that myself.
 

FettFan

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ADDED THOUGHT; I forgot a couple of things.

When entering Hall of the Presidents you are greeted by 3 security people. One officer as you enter and two on either side of the stage. They leave as the show starts.

American Adventure Show; All the Confederate flags have been removed along with the Don't Tread On Me flag.

While I could possibly stretch my mind to understand Confederate flags (despite the fact that in a presentation about American History that in no way venerates the south and Lost Cause mythology)....

The hell with the Gadsden Flag? That was a battle flag of the Continental Marines (AKA the forerunners of the modern United States Marine Corps) during the American Revolution.

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FullSailDan

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Like I've said before... dropping a Skyliner station at the International Gateway entrance to Epcot will negate any advantage of staying at the Epcot area resorts.

Not really... YB & Boardwalk cater to a different group than the resorts being connected and have significantly different levels of offerings at the actual hotel itself. If all you're thinking about is park access, maybe. But the average guest at Y&B doesn't stay in the park all day, and is more apt to be interested in having a spa, upscale restaurants, room service/concierge lounge availability, and interior rooms (not motel style). This is also a group that greatly prefers to be able to walk in and out of epcot quickly and not take an additional mode of transportation. None of this means it's better, it's just a different offering.

I more wonder about the boats to DHS... in practice its taken me like 30+ minutes to get from DHS to Epcot via friendship boat, and heaven forbid you should be left on the dock when the boat is at capacity. I anticipate a lot of people taking advantage of the skyliner and skipping the boats, which will leave their route to the studios in question. It's about as far for swolphin to walk anyways, and it's pretty close to YB&B. I'm still slightly confused why they didn't do a direct connect from Epcot to DHS.
 

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