It matters more if Perlmutter sells his stock. His was the majority of shares that Peltz controlled.
Peltz will probably be back, guessing he'll bring Elon as his second candidate this time.
Why?
If the company is struggling next year, if there isn't a new CEO waiting in the wings, or D+ doesn't become profitable or some other calamity manifests in the next 12 months that necessitates taking some kind of action against Disney, why would Wall Street want to go with Peltz again? Why wouldn't the big investment firms actually look for someone they like, that also coincidentally knows what they are doing?
He's done.
Peltz will probably be back, guessing he'll bring Elon as his second candidate this time. Musk is talking way too much about disney to not think he's going to do something like that.
Peltz is 81 and is worth $1.6 billion dollars. I'd be giving up on Disney and " blow that dough ".Why?
If the company is struggling next year, if there isn't a new CEO waiting in the wings, or D+ doesn't become profitable or some other calamity manifests in the next 12 months that necessitates taking some kind of action against Disney, why would Wall Street want to go with Peltz again? Why wouldn't the big investment firms actually look for someone they like, that also coincidentally knows what they are doing?
He's done.
I wouldn't put it past him but even he must know that there is a limit to how much of his personal grievances people are going to put up with while his companies are losing money by the truck load. He may be rich enough to not care but he is messing with other people's money at this point.
I honestly wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we see movement to remove him from Tesla before we see an attempt against Iger.
Do you believe everything anyone says (like a politician)?
Just because you say something doesn't make it true. He was never going to support if his platform was 'cut everything and then take profits'. But since it was 'cut everything except the parks and restore magic by looking at parks spending', you're all in on him.
Apparently, Tesla’s board doesn’t care. In fact, I think I care more about the ant crawling outside my front door than Tesla’s board cares about the company’s return on investment. Which is to say, not at all.Not every board of directors operates like Disney's board. Some actually do care about return on investment.
The entire Tesla board should be voted out and replaced with a truly independent board. Every single one of those board members are friends of Elon and if it weren’t for that fact, he would already be gone.I honestly wouldn't be the least bit surprised if we see movement to remove him from Tesla before we see an attempt against Iger.
You're not getting it. He would cut the parks spending too. It was just a lie to fool people like you.Yeah actually cutting all their garbage spending and focusing on the parks does sound pretty great.
It has lost 60% of its value since the high in 2021 and has been losing market share, cutting guidance, had massive misses on EPS and revenue the last two quarters and likely another here in a few weeks.Tesla up 800% over 5 years. Disney is essentially flat over 5 years. Are you serious?
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Most companies groom a successor behind the scenes. I'm sure it isn't public at all.Why?
If the company is struggling next year, if there isn't a new CEO waiting in the wings, or D+ doesn't become profitable or some other calamity manifests in the next 12 months that necessitates taking some kind of action against Disney, why would Wall Street want to go with Peltz again? Why wouldn't the big investment firms actually look for someone they like, that also coincidentally knows what they are doing?
He's done.
You're not getting it. He would cut the parks spending too. It was just a lie to fool people like you.
It would probably take less…I think it’s over. Peltz isn’t getting younger and isn’t sticking his neck out a third year in a row unless the victory is assured. He’ll collect his winnings and shift them to a new target.
I said before a 40% win would cause him to stick around. 30’s is a maybe and 20’s would be a really sound defeat.
I think what we got was an extremely harsh rejection of Rasulo and a meagre underperformance for Peltz historically, but I am opened to the maybe with the underside being Rasulo dragging him down so much.
The vast majority of Peltz’s support came from the ISS recommendation. The recommendation that was made prior to the Financial Times Interview and was a barely passable ‘maybe’ for succession. That All goes away if the board actually sticks to succession. The final Hail Mary they actually weren’t willing to compromise on for whatever reason, but the timing supports they damn well better have a very, very public timeline and roadmap by this time next year. If not the name, the date and the transitional period and the exit date for Iger firmed up. The company would be truly clueless if they leave this space for a third attempt.
Then we’d also need some cataclysmic change, where the stock underperforms peers and the broader market both by a significant margin in the next 6-8 months. By at least 25-30%. The window has otherwise been closed and unfortunately for Peltz the window has twice been the Fall and never the actual spring when the vote goes down.
He isn’t coming back on another maybe, he’s coming back on an assured victory. So ya, if the company completely derails, D+ can’t hit profitability Q4, a parks or cruise ship protracted closure occurs, something really unexpected. Even then he still might not bother unless a legitimate ally from Iger’s camp defects. Lucas/The Disneys, which seems unlikely due to the social disagreements.
…wait…what?!?Not if there's a cult of personality and buddyism and group-think and sunk-cost amongst the Board. Especially if the chief imagines himself as chief-for-life and squashes any attempts at succession.
Please find one instance. Only one. Any one. Of Nelson Peltz encouraging a company he was an active investor and/or on the Board of to increase spending on any part of that company's business.
Nah. It’s a fact. You just fell for his lies.
Please find one instance. Only one. Any one. Of Nelson Peltz encouraging a company he was an active investor and/or on the Board of to increase spending on any part of that company's business.
You won't. Because it doesn't exist.
You can try to label it as an opinion, but its fact based on existing information.
Okay, the save the magic website he created. He's an investor in Disney so that meeets your requirement, and he wants them to increase spending on the parks.
That was easy.
With his perfect 20/20 hindsight, he retroactively said they should've spent more in the past after Disney already admitted they should have done so and committed to doing so. On top of that, he said what they committed to spending should be further scrutinized, meaning that he wanted to trim their commitment where possible. He also teamed up with Rasulo, so yeah. Please try again.
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