The Snyderverse is dead dead. It's not coming back. Here's what's (partially) happening...
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Slpy3270
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Tears flowing down Snyderbros right now.
DC Slate Unveiled: New Batman, Supergirl Movies, a Green Lantern TV Show, and More from James Gunn, Peter Safran
The DC Studios bosses shared ten projects, talked the exit of Henry Cavill and the potential future of Ezra Miller as The Flash as they introduced a slate of big heroes and lesser known characters. "The stakes are massive for us and for Warner Bros. Discovery," says Safran.
www.hollywoodreporter.com
The old DCEU is being replaced by the DCU: one cohesive universe
A principle of the DCE is to have the same actors play the character on film, TV, and animation (as much as possible).
The DCEU wind down leading into the DCU:
DCU First Chapter: Gods & Monster
DC Elseworlds
Not in the DCU, but their own thing:
A principle of the DCE is to have the same actors play the character on film, TV, and animation (as much as possible).
The DCEU wind down leading into the DCU:
- Shazam: Fury of the God, Mar 17, 2023 (has been separate from DCEU so far, so.. will it be in the DCU?)
- Flash (resets the DCEU into the DCU), Jun 16, 2023
- Blue Beetle, Aug 18, 2023 (part of the DCU)
- Aquaman II, Dec 25, 2023 (part of the DCU)
DCU First Chapter: Gods & Monster
- Creature Commandos
- animated TV series, 7 episodes
- written by Gunn
- Waller
- TV series
- Viola Davis as Waller with the Peacemaker group
- writers: Christal Henry & Jeremy Carver)
- Superman Legacy
- Film: Jul 11, 2025
- written by Gunn
- a more optimistic take
- Lanterns
- TV series
- focusing on Hal Jordan and John Steward as earth-based police/detectives
- The Authority
- Film
- based on Wildstorm comics of superheroes who go to extremes to impose order
- Paradise Lost
- TV series
- Games-of-Throne–ish drama
- takes place before previous WW films
- Brave and the Bold
- Film
- Damian Wayne as Robin
- leading to “Bat Family”
- Booster Gold
- TV series
- Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow
- Film
- based on comics of the same name, a more pessimistic and jaded Supergirl
- Swamp Thing
- Film, horror genre
- sorta disconnect from DCU, but not?
DC Elseworlds
Not in the DCU, but their own thing:
- Matt Reeves' Batman (Part II, Oct 3, 2025)
- Todd Phillips' Joker: Folie à Deux (Oct 4, 2024)
- Teen Titans Go
- The Penguin
- Ta-Nehisi Coates’ Superman
- Superman & Lois (renewed for 2 more seasons)
- CW Flash (last season)
- Anything DC that came before
- Doom Patrol (last season)
- Titans (last season)
- Gotham Knights
- Harley Quinn (renewed)
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Yes.
And *maybe* in the future if he stays out of trouble. Else this is the last time he plays Flash.
It seems (I am not a psychologist) that there were mental health issues there.
Once things started to go to court and criminal charges, and threats of being cut out of the film, it seems he's been getting the therapy he needs. Previously, there was news of wacky stuff every week. Things have been quiet for about half a year so far with the exception of consequences for things he did back then, like court proceedings.
Screamface
Well-Known Member
How many years until it is announced Snyder will finish his Justice League? One, two, three years of this new DCU failing?
Snyder's works were not as successful or as well received as the SnyderBros on Twitter and a handful of Nerdrade YouTube videos would have you believe.
Remember when Batman v. Superman was trash talked by these same bros before Justice League bewitched them into thinking Snyder was their Superlord and savior?
Remember, there are *a lot* of comic fans out there who absolutely did not like a Superman or Batman who killed. Snyderverse is not universally acclaimed.
If Warner Bro Discovery is still under tight financial restrictions, they don't have the budget for giant swings with a director who has sometimes whiffed.
Besides, it was clear that the old guard, including the top of the company didn't want a Snyderverse, and the new guard doesn't want a Snyderverse, so then, Snyderverse is never coming back.
The #releasethesnyderverse only works once. Since then, the Twitter bros have been introducing dozens of hashtags that they got trending that amounted to absolute nothing.
Gunn is rebuilding with young B-list talent who are cheap and can be corralled into 5 picture deals. Cavill and Gadot are too expensive right now with WBD budget constraints.
lazyboy97o
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Bots don’t watch movies.
Screamface
Well-Known Member
I don't know about that, I don't even know about the alleged bots stuff.
MoS, BvS and JS JL are up there with the best comic book movies of the last few decades for me. Better than the vast majority of Marvel films. Real-world discussions, people seem to really like them. I read online about them, I just don't really trust online opinions.
I have zero enthusiasm for Gunn's upcoming films. I liked the first Guardians. The second sucked. The Christmas special sucked. Suicide Squad was OK... Peacemaker was good. New Guardians looks bad.
Other DC stuff. The Batman was terrible. Joker was terrible. I honestly don't understand how people liked this films unless they are idiots. Joker was such garbage. Batman just walks around and looks at stuff. Then people explain stuff to him and he fails. Somehow that became a meme of him being a detective.
I can just say, the only thing I would be excited for is more of Snyder's stuff. I also think DC has shot themselves in the foot by clearly making it known none of the up coming few films matter and will be abandoned. It's sabotaging their success, to justify the change in direction. Which will fail, because they won't get a better Superman or Batman in the next round.
But you're not the general audience. The majority of the general audience disagrees with you...
BvS got lower ratings than Black Adam!
And Man of Steel only got meh ratings.
_caleb
Well-Known Member
Seems very complicated. Gunn should reset with one good film before announcing a spiderweb of interconnected films/series/games/animation. Otherwise, if the first DCU film sucks, it's going to drag down everything else.
Taking it one step at a time would let them treat each new film as a reboot of the DCU until they get it right.
Taking it one step at a time would let them treat each new film as a reboot of the DCU until they get it right.
spacemt354
Chili's
Yep, very complicated.
So the Synderverse is 'gone' - yet Aquaman from the Snyderverse remains the same actor, possibly Flash, and also Paradise Lost takes place before the previous Wonder Woman films? Is Gal Gadot then still Wonder Woman? If so, that's half of the Justice League remaining the same.
I assume Waller will be a psuedo-sequel to Peacemaker and The Suicide Squad, or at least carry continuity, so is that still DCU canon too?
You need a successful start too so a lot of this is riding on Superman: Legacy's success. If it's a mixed review like Man of Steel, it'll be hard to get off the ground, but they aren't making it easier on themselves through this approach, imo.
A few thoughts:
An alternate timeline can change some people but not others.
If there are other dimensions then the actors/characters that are no longer in the main DCU can reappear in multi-dimensional crossovers. Or, be their own continuing Elseworld franchise like Reeves' The Batman.
Also, Aquaman was its own successful thing before being drawn into Snyder's Justice League
Apparently.
spacemt354
Chili's
An alternate timeline changing some main characters but not others is complicating things for no reason right from the start. If you're going to cut the umbilical cord from the 10 year Synderverse experiment, then do it all the way and don't look back.
Sure Aquaman in 2018 was a great success, but the character is tied to the Snyderverse. The plot of his solo film deals with the aftermath of Justice League
If The Batman can run concurrently with the DCU Batman, why not have the Momoa Aquaman continue on his own with DC Elseworlds?
And yet, it happens a lot in most "the timeline has changed" comics and Sci-Fi stories.
In the Flashpoint comics that this is all based on, some people are the same but now have different personalities because of different histories, and some are changed (e.g., Thomas Wayne is Batman).