Survivor 47 Discussion Thread

dmw

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In the Parks
No
Rome had a great attitude after being blindsided. This is a game and he understands that. I did not like him as a player, and he certainly will look back at this episode with humility, but, he will probably laugh at himself because that just seems to be his happy personality. Kudos to Rome for a classy exit.
 

rd805

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Hi! Happy to have found a little Survivor chat on my WDW board haha!

A lot of good players left, been a fun season thus far.
 

PUSH

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Original Poster
Hi! Happy to have found a little Survivor chat on my WDW board haha!

A lot of good players left, been a fun season thus far.
This website is how I started watching Survivor. I saw a thread for season 26 all the way back in 2013 and started watching because of it. Now I'm obsessed. Glad to have another person aboard!
 

rd805

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I've been watching since the beginning -- hopped in mid season 1. Didn't watch for a bunch of years and after graduating college I remember 4 seasons were included on my Amazon Prime (South Nicaragua, South Pacific, Redemption Island, and maybe One World?) -- anyway, binged South Nicaragua over the course of a few nights and watched all I missed. Been watching every week live (or 24-48 hours later if not home) since Blood vs Water.

Definitely a megafan!
 

PUSH

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This is the first episode this season that I didn't find fun. There were some interesting outcomes, but everything was decided because of production's meddling.

The split groups has never been interesting. It's always produced unfair boots. And then on top of that, they throw in the safety without power, which is another random game piece put in by production. Tonight felt a lot more like a board game than a social strategy game. Just let the players play! It's frustrating listening to Jeff talk about how great these things are on his podcast, while refusing to listen to why it's not fun and ruins the integrity of the game.

If we would have had a straight forward vote, we could have had the storylines with Andy and Genevieve. We could have seen how Andy would have interacted with Sam. All of that was setting up to be extremely interesting until the unnecessary twists were thrown in.

I know I say it over and over, but this isn't what Survivor is. Let the players use social and strategic moves to influence the game... not a random chance card.
 

rd805

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This is the first episode this season that I didn't find fun. There were some interesting outcomes, but everything was decided because of production's meddling.

The split groups has never been interesting. It's always produced unfair boots. And then on top of that, they throw in the safety without power, which is another random game piece put in by production. Tonight felt a lot more like a board game than a social strategy game. Just let the players play! It's frustrating listening to Jeff talk about how great these things are on his podcast, while refusing to listen to why it's not fun and ruins the integrity of the game.

If we would have had a straight forward vote, we could have had the storylines with Andy and Genevieve. We could have seen how Andy would have interacted with Sam. All of that was setting up to be extremely interesting until the unnecessary twists were thrown in.

I know I say it over and over, but this isn't what Survivor is. Let the players use social and strategic moves to influence the game... not a random chance card.

I agree -- it does drive the point home that if you "win" the game at the end, you probably deserved to win.

But having 7 of 12 immune, with only a max of up to 6 voting when there are 12 in the game is just odd. I think with Sol finding that advantage, but having the vote being 5 original tribe members vs 1 new showed how flawed the pairing of these two "twists" could be.

A lot of luck in the new survivor.
 

Wendy Pleakley

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This is the first episode this season that I didn't find fun. There were some interesting outcomes, but everything was decided because of production's meddling.

The split groups has never been interesting. It's always produced unfair boots. And then on top of that, they throw in the safety without power, which is another random game piece put in by production. Tonight felt a lot more like a board game than a social strategy game. Just let the players play! It's frustrating listening to Jeff talk about how great these things are on his podcast, while refusing to listen to why it's not fun and ruins the integrity of the game.

If we would have had a straight forward vote, we could have had the storylines with Andy and Genevieve. We could have seen how Andy would have interacted with Sam. All of that was setting up to be extremely interesting until the unnecessary twists were thrown in.

I know I say it over and over, but this isn't what Survivor is. Let the players use social and strategic moves to influence the game... not a random chance card.

I just watched and I was kind of all over the place in terms of, is this good or bad?

It is modern Survivor in a nutshell. They really lean into these small voting groups as the most dramatic thing, even post merge.

At first, it was actually quite promising. You get a 3-3 showdown or a 5-1 dilemma. That notion of walking back into a 6-5 scenario was interesting. Good points were made about who would be the biggest targets from the 5.

Then we got the twist that was maybe just one step too far. It negated the 5-1 dilemma just as it would have changed the 3-3 scenario to a straight forward majority vote.

On the bright side, Rachel survived what was a purely unlucky situation to be in.

The Andy/Genevieve relationship showed, and still shows, potential, but was basically sidelined by producer decisions.

I'm not a Survivor purist by any means, but I agree with the fundamental notion that it needs to be primarily influenced by player choices.
 

PUSH

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Original Poster
This was a fun episode. Imagine that... when you don't break the game, the players produce.

The auction was better than 45's, but it still isn't fun watching everyone bid all their money to avoid losing their vote. It's not an auction at that point. We know exactly who is getting what. I like the different amounts of starting money, but just do it without the lose-a-vote. I also liked the extra money thrown in and the grub eating challenge. But just get rid of the losing a vote aspect. The players will make it fun. I've never watched an auction and been bored before the new era auctions. I also liked hiding the advantage in the food. That makes it so players don't hold onto their money until the end.

It was interesting to see everyone's opinions on which Gata to vote out. I agree that Sierra was probably the right target. Sam loses most of his power without her. Rachel is a threat, but she has inklings of allies, but nothing firm. As a whole, I feel like that's what this season is. There are no strong alliances outside of maybe Sue/Caroline and Sue/Gabe. It reminds me of Cambodia when voting blocks became a thing, but even still there were stronger alliances that season.

Seeing Andy's perspective intrigues me. We saw his line of thinking, but it didn't seem like he was actually the one pulling the strings. Not to get too much into edit reading, but it makes me think he's either the winner because we're being shown this vote from his perspective OR he's a no-vote finalist and we're going to find out that his read was totally wrong. It seemed like we were being told he was the one controlling the vote, but in reality everyone wanted a Gata out... they just had to agree on which one.

I'm going to start my potential winner rankings again. They're based on the chance they would have to win if they were at a final tribal council right now. It's not actually how I think they'll finish... for example... Sam is ranked #4 as a favorite, but I don't think he'll get close to the final three.

Favorite
1. Caroline
2. Sol
3. Genevieve
4. Sam

Good Chance
5. Rachel
6. Gabe
7. Kyle

Possible
8. Teeny
9. Andy

Little to No Chance
10. Sue
 

rd805

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I'm thinking Andy is in the 3rd place finisher-- he isn't terribly articulate, but seems to have created a good new alliance patched together which could take out the likes of Sam, Rachel, maybe even Kyle if they look at him as a threat (they probably HAVE to).
 

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