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News Star Wars themed resort confirmed

21stamps

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Or have guidelines for "generic" costumes i.e. "Jedi night" or "rebellion" that includes the emblem somewhere vs specifically as Kylo Ren or Rey. There's a lot of background characters in the scenes that could fit into the "theme" with costuming guidelines (like earth tone for this race, bright colors for this race or something like that).

And I wasn't trying to pick on you:)- love your trip reports with your son(he's adorable)- it's just my middle daughter is more into cosplay stuff; and over the years I've gone to conventions and comic cons (yep nerd alert lol!!) I've seen a huge increase in women/girls in attendance. I think the number of women/girls interested in a Star Wars experience is easy to underestimate-especially with Rogue One and the new trilogy having strong females as the lead.
That would make sense regarding the costumes.

I also agree with you that more women/girls are getting into that kind of stuff. I'm thrilled about it! Disney, and others, have finally realized that little girls can be a huge market for action heros as well. It's about time!!

Right now men, especially with people around my age- in the 35-45 age bracket, are still imo the largest portion of the most die hard SW fans.. (I hate fighting with them at Christmas time!!lol)

I guess my father/son comment was kind of compared to father/son golf trips. Plenty of women golf, but it's still predominantly men, for the most part. If a wife and daughters aren't interested in a golf trip, then the father son do that- and the women go to another destination.
This is what my parents did when I was growing up. Once per year my dad and brother would fly somewhere for a golf centered long weekend. My mom, sister, and I would go somewhere like NYC or Chicago. It worked out for everyone, and we each had special bonding time.

I can see this SW resort maybe being the same for some families. A 5 or even 16 year old girl and wife may not be huge Star Wars Fans.. not enough to want to role play for 3 days at that price point.. so the families could split up and each do their own thing.

I hope this comment doesn't sound sexist.. I am the farthest thing from placing people in gender stereotypes.lol. My sister and I were athletes, sure we had dolls and liked princesses, but neither of us were ever obsessed with them. But in all honesty, if I didn't have a son who was into Star Wars, then I probably never would have gotten as into it as I am now.

I loved the first 3 when I was a kid, played with my brothers toys as a child.. but by the time I was older and the prequels came out- I had no interest in seeing them.. actually didn't watch them for the first time until 2015.. fell in love. :) better late than never..
 
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MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
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@lentesta on twitter is hearing $650 per night, minimum two nights, and $200 per person per night for any additional guests in the room. If that includes a special wardrobe as rumored (for a "100% immersive experience") and food as well, that's really not too bad.
I got that from Jim, who was standing next to someone at D23 who was in a position to know.

IIRC, the original survey mentioned prices of around $1,000/night. This is not far from that.
That person in the know sounds like me, but I wasn't there! :)

From an unquotable post found here (because the thread is locked):

Kamikaze said: Prices are most likely based on double occupancy.

My reply:

This is the kind of thing that cruise lines do, which is maddening to me when I travel solo with family members who are paired up.

Cruise lines will advertise "only $700 per person!" (based on double occupancy). This means that for a single individual, it costs $1,400. It costs the couple $1,400, too, but if they both work, it's more affordable to them as they each pay $700.

So, when the survey mentions "$1,000 per person!" If that's based on double occupancy, like the cruise lines do, then for a single person in a room, it will cost $2,000 because it assumes two people in a room even if there is only one. For a couple in a room, it is also $2,000, but their advertisement of "$1,000 per person!" is true.

It's hard to find a fair way to price this for an individual v. a room of four adults. If they both pay the same amount, then they are using up the same amount of lodging space, but, the group of four is using up four times the other resources of the events (food, character interaction, etc...).

A fairer way to do cost would be to cost the room and the personal experience separately. [Which is exactly what happens at conventions.] So, e.g., if they price the room at $400 per night and then the ticket for the experience at $200 per person, then for a single individual, they'd pay $1,000 and two couples [in a room] would pay $1,600.​
 

flynnibus

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The concept art looks fantastic. I see a lot of people mentioning cosplay, but the description says "You’ll immediately become a citizen of the galaxy and experience all that entails, including dressing up in the proper attire." I interpreted that as thematic wardrobe, rather than letting random guests show up as Kylo or Rey or whomever. Was there something in the presentation that implied you could dress as a main character?
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Disney will have to block people from being recognizable characters to avoid their stories getting screwed up. This will involve self paced exploration adventures, live actors, "stage" shows, etc. you will be able to take on roles... but they would have to create boundaries to keep the whole working.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
That person in the know sounds like me, but I wasn't there! :)

From an unquotable post found here (because the thread is locked):

Kamikaze said: Prices are most likely based on double occupancy.

My reply:

This is the kind of thing that cruise lines do, which is maddening to me when I travel solo with family members who are paired up.

Cruise lines will advertise "only $700 per person!" (based on double occupancy). This means that for a single individual, it costs $1,400. It costs the couple $1,400, too, but if they both work, it's more affordable to them as they each pay $700.

So, when the survey mentions "$1,000 per person!" If that's based on double occupancy, like the cruise lines do, then for a single person in a room, it will cost $2,000 because it assumes two people in a room even if there is only one. For a couple in a room, it is also $2,000, but their advertisement of "$1,000 per person!" is true.

It's hard to find a fair way to price this for an individual v. a room of four adults. If they both pay the same amount, then they are using up the same amount of lodging space, but, the group of four is using up four times the other resources of the events (food, character interaction, etc...).

A fairer way to do cost would be to cost the room and the personal experience separately. [Which is exactly what happens at conventions.] So, e.g., if they price the room at $400 per night and then the ticket for the experience at $200 per person, then for a single individual, they'd pay $1,000 and two couples [in a room] would pay $1,600.​
There's no fair way with these kind of things unfortunately, if you're a solo traveler or solo adult with child.

All inclusive resorts- I pay full double occupancy for myself and a child- who can't even drink the "included alcohol" lol.

GWL- includes 4 water park bracelets. You're paying for 4, no discount for 2.

Cruises- 1st 2 passengers-child pays same price as adult, but doesn't use as many amenities or eat as much food.

Sucks.. but is what it is. I've learned to accept it.lol.

If this hotel is the way @lentesta described- then it will be the first resort where I feel like I'm coming out ahead having an adult and child only!! Fingers crossed!!
 

flynnibus

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A fairer way to do cost would be to cost the room and the personal experience separately. [Which is exactly what happens at conventions.] So, e.g., if they price the room at $400 per night and then the ticket for the experience at $200 per person, then for a single individual, they'd pay $1,000 and two couples [in a room] would pay $1,600.​
But Conventions aren't in the hotel business. Your idea creates a great loss of revenue for the property, and why it makes sense to your target customer, it doesn't necessarily to the business.

Plus, such line item pricing leads to line item price comparisons and extra scrutiny. Bundling allows you to build up an offer that is harder to do side by side comparisons.
 

Cosmic Commando

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I know this is more Star Trek than Star Wars, but if they want to have outdoor areas, they could theme it to a holodeck-type experience. The pool could be themed to Endor or wherever, have it look like the current Star Tours queue, and the humidity, sunshine, breeze, rain, etc. are just products of the ship's technology in the story.

Edit : Seems like swimsuits would break the immersion, though. I can't picture Star Wars characters hanging out by a pool.
 

JusticeDisney

Premium Member
Ummmmm, wow. I guess I am in the vast minority here, but Disney couldn't pay me enough to go participate in this nerd-a-thon (not that there's anything wrong with nerds). Star Wars costumes? Seriously? Yeah, I'll pas on this cosplay garbage, thanks.
 

flynnibus

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I know this is more Star Trek than Star Wars, but if they want to have outdoor areas, they could theme it to a holodeck-type experience. The pool could be themed to Endor or wherever, have it look like the current Star Tours queue, and the humidity, sunshine, breeze, rain, etc. are just products of the ship's technology in the story.
The "all windows" space comment may reflect potentially a shift from their earlier details. I always though the outside portion reflected a significant conflict. I would prefer a biodome kind of concept that could be explained away similar to your line of thought.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
But Conventions aren't in the hotel business. Your idea creates a great loss of revenue for the property, and why it makes sense to your target customer, it doesn't necessarily to the business.

Plus, such line item pricing leads to line item price comparisons and extra scrutiny. Bundling allows you to build up an offer that is harder to do side by side comparisons.
Yes, conventions and hotels are two entities each with their own fees... but this SWResort is a bundled hotel and event run by the same company. To participate in the event, you have to pay for a room. And paying for the room gets you into the event.

If Len's Jim's source pans out, then they will be doing what I suggest is more fair: charging a large base price for the room+event and then somewhat extra for each person in the room. This is a compromise between pay-one-price where a group of four split the cost four ways and the single person is paying four times as much v. pay-full-price-per-person where a family with a single breadwinner is paying four times the price for a room than a single person.
 

21stamps

Well-Known Member
I know this is more Star Trek than Star Wars, but if they want to have outdoor areas, they could theme it to a holodeck-type experience. The pool could be themed to Endor or wherever, have it look like the current Star Tours queue, and the humidity, sunshine, breeze, rain, etc. are just products of the ship's technology in the story.

Edit : Seems like swimsuits would break the immersion, though. I can't picture Star Wars characters hanging out by a pool.
I want a cool fully themed domed pool!!
 

flynnibus

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If Len's Jim's source pans out, then they will be doing what I suggest is more fair: charging a large base price for the room+event and then somewhat extra for each person in the room.
I'm pretty sure I said this many many weeks ago.

The catch is (at least for price testing) they only gave a room of four as the only option. Unlike the cruise ships that have rooms that can price out from 2-5 people well. And they didn't have any alternatives to give either..

I think rooms being small is a bigger issue than worrying about groups of one or two.

Disney is going to price this like the cruises... and how they try to do with room+ticket advertising. They want to just quote you one big number... and beat into you how much you get for that price. Not expose a al la cart list of prices.

I expect as it is with the cruises... that price variation due to dates/seasons will make specific pricing hard to pin down too.
 
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lentesta

Premium Member
My biggest question is - are you really inside for almost 4 days? Without seeing the outside?
The closest I can think of to compare would be GWL (as in not going outside)..but I just feel like there should be a pool or something..even if domed to remain in theme.



That's what I thought, but Len Testa said it's one price for the first person only- then $200 additional per person.
Jim's clarifying this. I spoke to him a couple hours ago and he'd just interviewed one of the lead designers for this thing.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
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Disney will have to block people from being recognizable characters to avoid their stories getting screwed up. This will involve self paced exploration adventures, live actors, "stage" shows, etc. you will be able to take on roles... but they would have to create boundaries to keep the whole working.
Jim said (a couple hours ago) that the live characters will probably be new for this experience. He said they don't want to trample on either the existing or future canon in terms of storyline.
 

flynnibus

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Jim said (a couple hours ago) that the live characters will probably be new for this experience. He said they don't want to trample on either the existing or future canon in terms of storyline.
I see it as a continuity of the idea they are taking from the lands. A new "space" within the new universe so you avoid conflict with existing story barriers. And gives you more freedom from future changes due to movies, etc. carve out your own theme park portion of the universe.

The confirmation of the 'identity' tracking and integration in the theme park ties into this as well. The role playing in the resort experience can integrate into the theme park portion.
 

mergatroid

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Ummmmm, wow. I guess I am in the vast minority here, but Disney couldn't pay me enough to go participate in this nerd-a-thon (not that there's anything wrong with nerds). Star Wars costumes? Seriously? Yeah, I'll pas on this cosplay garbage, thanks.
Well that's the beauty of having such a large area to contain their parks and hotels, it gives them and visitors multiple options. For those not into Star Wars that much that they want to immerse themselves in a themed hotel with costumes etc, they don't have to. There's still countless other rooms on property to enjoy and adding this does nothing to take that away. And those who want to visit the new Star Wars land in the Studios to get their SW fix still can, again this new hotel takes nothing away but adds so much.

It's definitely a specialist market they're catering for here, but there's nothing wrong with that. Disney knows from Star Wars weekends alone that there's a huge army of fans out there loyal to the brand willing to spend money on their obsession, I can see this being really, really popular if done properly. Think they've potentially hit a home run with this if done right and it wouldn't surprise me to see Universal maybe try a similar Potter experience if this is successful.
 

monykalyn

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I can see this SW resort maybe being the same for some families. A 5 or even 16 year old girl and wife may not be huge Star Wars Fans.. not enough to want to role play for 3 days at that price point.. so the families could split up and each do their own thing.
If this hotel is the way @lentesta described- then it will be the first resort where I feel like I'm coming out ahead having an adult and child only!! Fingers crossed!!
And this could fall in line with offering other themed immersive experiences - like the princess one mentioned (can you imagine the demand for a castle hotel complete with carriages and BBB or pirate makeover included? That may actually outdo the star wars one:joyfull:)

But doubt disney cares if priced for 4 but only 2 or 3 want to do the experience ...
 

nickys

Premium Member
I think some people are getting just a tad carried away here ;)

I see it as an immersive experience, where you find a costume, or more aptly a gown, to wear over your clothes. You can then take part in several different events, such as a galactic battle in the Endor Room, a Jedi Training session in the Han Solo room etc. "Here's the programme of events". And if you wish to have a nap, swim, have a drink in a lounge then guess what - you go ahead and do it!! Shock, gasp! "It will ruin the immersiveness" - for whom? Only for the person involved. Want to go to a park (DW, getting just a wee bit fed up with being shouted at for aiming at the wrong Star cruiser) - fine, go. You will be wasting your money but hey, not their problem.

This is NOT boot camp. 7am, you WILL rise, 8am you WILL have breakfast, 10pm you WILL retire to bed

It will likely be a 2 night stay, check in noon on Sat, check out noon Mon, next batch check in Tues to Thurs.

What do you think they will do if a 5 year old starts whining he wants to ride Dumbo? "Sorry, you can't leave the hotel before Tuesday". It's a bit of FUN people. Yes, FUN with a capital F and a massive credit card bill, Fun for nerds who treat it like comic con, but they're not going to keep you locked up.

I will no doubt try it. DH and both DSs will want to go, and I'll go too. Should be cool, but no way am I playing Star Wars for 72 hours.
 
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