Star Wars: The Acolyte

Disney Irish

Premium Member
He came back for ep.9 for a scene. Anyway, point is huge missed opportunity. Did Disney ask him back for 30 million and he said no? I don’t think anyone asked him?
There has been recent interviews with him recounting the story about him asking to kill off Han. So yeah I'm pretty sure he is done with the character. I won't say "never" but it seems pretty final to me.
 

CinematicFusion

Well-Known Member
There has been recent interviews with him recounting the story about him asking to kill of Han. So yeah I'm pretty sure he is done with the character. I won't say "never" but it seems pretty final to me.
He’s done now for sure, but I think he would have said yes to ep.8 if they asked him and that was a missed opportunity. Him and Boyega were solid together. Producers watching the dallies should have tried to lock him up for 8.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
He’s done now for sure, but I think he would have said yes to ep.8 if they asked him and that was a missed opportunity. Him and Boyega were solid together. Producers watching the dallies should have tried to lock him up for 8.
Missed opportunity, sure I'll give you that. And its a nice sentiment to think he'd have been open to coming back one more time for Ep8, but I just don't have any credible reason to believe that to be anywhere close to being true. I mean if I tell my employer, mind one that I still work with, that I'm not working on this project anymore so kill off the project, that seems pretty final to me.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Possible that template doesn't work anymore, which is why they are trying to find a new template. We'll see how it turns out now that they are moving into High Republic and other time periods and stories outside of the Skywalker saga.
I don't know. Rogue one and Mando stuck pretty close to the template. And those were really well received. The Force awakens unfortunately just straight up copied the template. Lol I think moving time periods could really help. I would have liked them to pick a time before Yoda as he's obviously a big part of the Skywalker Saga. So it will make a lot of sense for him to show up in this. And that could be good or it could be a bad thing. If he's not there, it might seem strange that the head Jedi never shows up. And if he does appear, you could get the, you just can't break away from legacy characters. Or it could be super awesome to see him kick but at a slightly younger age.
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
He’s done now for sure, but I think he would have said yes to ep.8 if they asked him and that was a missed opportunity. Him and Boyega were solid together. Producers watching the dallies should have tried to lock him up for 8.
Well if they made the force awakens today, Han would most certainly still be alive. I mean, getting stabbed by a lightsaber isn't what it used to be. Tis but a scratch!

:cautious:
 

CinematicFusion

Well-Known Member
Missed opportunity, sure I'll give you that. And its a nice sentiment to think he'd have been open to coming back one more time for Ep8, but I just don't have any credible reason to believe that to be anywhere close to being true. I mean if I tell my employer, mind one that I still work with, that I'm not working on this project anymore so kill off the project, that seems pretty final to me.
I believe Harrison Ford would have returned for Episode 8 under the right circumstances. Ford always said he didn’t hate Han Solo but felt his story was complete. He advocated for Han to die heroically to add emotional weight to the character. Ford found more development opportunities with Indiana Jones, keeping him more engaged with that role.

When George Lucas approached Ford, Hamill, and Fisher for the sequels, they all expressed interest. After Lucas sold Lucasfilm to Disney, the original cast was on board. Ford returned for “The Force Awakens” because he appreciated working with talented filmmakers, the substantial budget, and the story direction. He did express enthusiasm for the project.

While there’s no evidence Ford would have participated or was even asked back for Episode 8, it’s reasonable to believe that he would have considered, given the right story and financial incentives. Ford has shown a willingness to reprise iconic roles under favorable conditions, demonstrating his professionalism and commitment to compelling performances.

But all speculation and it doesn’t matter anymore. Those films are in the can.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
You can argue this til the cows come home, and not disagreeing with you, but it still doesn't change the fact that the actor who made the character famous didn't and still doesn't want to play the character anymore.
I’ll lump him in with Chris Evans and RDJ…as you well know

…cause we know what makes the world go round
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Whether its the MCU or SW, the same template can only be used so many times before it becomes unusable. You have to be willing to change it up to fit the ever changing audience.
I don’t necessarily disagree…but it calls into question Disney paying premium for such IP?

If the point isn’t to continue sure thing revenue…there is no point.

Little doubt they messed this one up.

A 50/50 metacritic score is a smokescreen as well.

Poll just Star Wars fans - all versions - and ask them? Casual BO goers are largely pointless

I would guess it’s 90/10, 70/30, 50/50 against

That is not success.

Anyway…back to forward
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Over 2500 people got together and coordinated to lowball a TV show? That just isn’t realistic. It’s like saying 2500 people decided to praise a movie on RT without even seeing it. What’s more likely is that some Matrix fans, excited to see Carrie-Anne Moss, were upset when her character dies three minutes into the show, leading to lower scores.

4.3 million people tuned in, and only a very small fraction left a review. If the show is good, the next 5000 reviews will be positive.
However, if I could give The Last Jedi a score lower than zero, I would do it in a heartbeat. The movie still angers me even after 7 years. That’s just my opinion, and I might be in the minority.

And thus to bring this back around to the Acolyte, you've succinctly answered your own question. People are very mad at the Last Jedi and they take it out by flooding that movie and every subsequent Star Wars production with additional fake reviews, because they want it to have a score less than zero.

Hopefully you seem to have way more maturity to not do such a thing, but quite a few internet denizens don't. Even this thread demonstrates people's unwillingness to not flood this forum with those angry opinions - on a show like 4 steps removed at this juncture.


Anyways, the Acolyte seems reasonably promising so far! And possibly quite successful.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Wendy, I respect that you love The Last Jedi, and I’m not stopping anyone from enjoying it. However, if I could give The Last Jedi a score lower than zero, I would do it in a heartbeat. The movie still angers me even after 7 years. That’s just my opinion, and I might be in the minority.
This.

My Star Wars platitudes aren’t completely my own opinion. I have a couple of longtime friends who have had long careers with a danish toy brick making company…

Do you want to know what they think of Disney and their “sequels”

It’s not personal for them…it’s just business
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Dude always liked money…and now he’s like 85…

That a good bet on your part?

I’ll lump him in with Chris Evans and RDJ…as you well know

…cause we know what makes the world go round
Only way to find out is if we get word Disney wants to bring him back and he says yes or no. Until then I'm not willing to bet anything on his accepting a return in the future.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
And thus to bring this back around to the Acolyte, you've succinctly answered your own question. People are very mad at the Last Jedi and they take it out by flooding that movie and every subsequent Star Wars production with additional fake reviews, because they want it to have a score less than zero.

Hopefully you seem to have way more maturity to not do such a thing, but quite a few internet denizens don't. Even this thread demonstrates people's unwillingness to not flood this forum with those angry opinions - on a show like 4 steps removed at this juncture.


Anyways, the Acolyte seems reasonably promising so far! And possibly quite successful.
Those movies are legitimately awful…it’s not gatekeeping by trolls. In 10 years the decay has only worsened except for one baby green guy…
Trolls don’t yield that kinda power over something so huge.

Gatekeeping has just become an excuse to finger the culprits. I’ll never get why.

If I say “they really &!?$ed it up…” does that mean I can’t like empire and my Skywalker/solo cut anymore?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Only way to find out is if we get word Disney wants to bring him back and he says yes or no. Until then I'm not willing to bet anything on his accepting a return in the future.
Nah…that ship sailed. They tried rebooting him (an entirely unexpected move by Disney 🙄) and that flopped.

I think that chapter is closed. Cut your losses. I think they are ok with his last call in the hat…as they try to repair that damage too…of course
 

BrianLo

Well-Known Member
Even this thread demonstrates people's unwillingness to not flood this forum with those angry opinions - on a show like 4 steps removed at this juncture.
Those movies are legitimately awful…

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