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News Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance opening reports and using Boarding Groups at Disney's Hollywood Studios

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
There is one other strategery that would work and I have mentioned before.

Create BG's for Tron, GotG, FoP and RotR once all four attractions are operating. Then allow one BG per guest, per day. I got push back when I suggested this before so that confirms this is a workable solution and would be quite effective.💡
There’s a few reasons why you got a push back. That wasn’t one of them.
 

nickys

Premium Member
People will be booking the MK and Epcot more often once Tron, GotG and Rat are open. Again each percentage point directed away from the Studios makes it more likely a guest will be able to secure a BG for Rise.

Having the reservation window open for minutes rather than seconds will make a huge difference.

Basically, BGs at other parks will lower demand at DHS. Especially with guests who have already experienced Rise and will be more motivated to try the newer attractions.
DHS is currently at about 35% capacity. Rise seems to be operating reasonably reliably these days. And still there are people who can’t get BGs. The math(s) doesn’t back your theory.
 

TTLUTS

Active Member
There is one other strategery that would work and I have mentioned before.

Create BG's for Tron, GotG, FoP and RotR once all four attractions are operating. Then allow one BG per guest, per day. I got push back when I suggested this before so that confirms this is a workable solution and would be quite effective.💡
This is a terrible idea on so many levels that it doesn’t even deserve a further response. It creates so many more problems than solutions
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
DHS is currently at about 35% capacity. Rise seems to be operating reasonably reliably these days. And still there are people who can’t get BGs. The math(s) doesn’t back your theory.

In addition there likely will be additional changes. 35% of max capacity is not far from normal daily standard capacity. Phased closures are rare.

By forcing people to choose a BG each day you are ensuring far fewer will choose Rise as that option.

If a park hopper really wants to ride FoP (and this is many people's favorite) they will have to join that BG. That removes them from Rise as an option.

The result will be a much higher percentage of those choosing Rise will be first timers rather than repeat riders. It isn't that Rise won't be at capacity, it will be that many more guests will have the chance to experience the ride. Of course, with limited availability there are never guarantees. But very motivated guests will likely succeed.

As mentioned, separate ticket events, if possible, are also a way to help with demand.
 

crawale

Well-Known Member
DHS is currently at about 35% capacity. Rise seems to be operating reasonably reliably these days. And still there are people who can’t get BGs. The math(s) doesn’t back your theory.
How will having the window be open for minutes help. When all BGs are gone you cannot get a BG. Last time we stayed at the Boardwalk we got a BG on the second day and then didn't try anymore - just out of fairness to others. It is hard for people to not be able to ride while others get a BG every day of their stay - not sure what a solution to this would be. Fast pass at least got you a chance if you were staying at a resort - and probably spending a whole lot of money to do so - and could book for your length of stay. Maybe restrict your FP to one or two a stay to give more people a chance.
 

crawale

Well-Known Member
Hmm seems like they lowered the BG allotment for the 7am drop? I remember a few months ago here people were getting BG ~100+ from the first drop. Now they're distributing, at minimum, BG 99 in the second and 1pm drop.

Of course this doesn't account for any BG-size changes that could've occured since then.
So about how many do you figure in the 7am timeframe?
 

HauntedPirate

Sheltered-at-home Park nostalgist
Premium Member
In addition there likely will be additional changes. 35% of max capacity is not far from normal daily standard capacity. Phased closures are rare.

By forcing people to choose a BG each day you are ensuring far fewer will choose Rise as that option.

If a park hopper really wants to ride FoP (and this is many people's favorite) they will have to join that BG. That removes them from Rise as an option.

So you think a “normal” day at DHS is approximately 35% of total capacity?

The Park Reservations system automatically eliminates any guest who doesn’t have one for DHS from being able to try to get a boarding group for Rise. Do try to keep up, as we know it’s been a long, long time since you’ve set foot in a Disney theme park.
 

jt04

Well-Known Member
So you think a “normal” day at DHS is approximately 35% of total capacity?

The Park Reservations system automatically eliminates any guest who doesn’t have one for DHS from being able to try to get a boarding group for Rise. Do try to keep up, as we know it’s been a long, long time since you’ve set foot in a Disney theme park.

Software can be changed. And procedures at WDW are always evolving.

And I didn't say 35% was an average day at DHS. Just not all that far from it. And this will be especially true once Tron and Guardians are open. IMO.
 

gerarar

Well-Known Member
So about how many do you figure in the 7am timeframe?
Probably an easy flat number like 95 BGs distributed in the 7am drop. BG 96 and above (just slightly above 200) are distributed in the 1pm drop.

(Not official numbers, just my speculation from various observations)
 

Chet Dakota

Well-Known Member
The Park Reservations system automatically eliminates any guest who doesn’t have one for DHS from being able to try to get a boarding group for Rise. Do try to keep up, as we know it’s been a long, long time since you’ve set foot in a Disney theme park.
I actually like the Rise BG system in place now. I think it is the best approach to date.

I also hope that Park Reservations stay in place with VQs for other popular rides after the pandemic with no FP+, with Standby only. It has actually been pretty nice this week with the lines steadily moving and not having to search for new FPs after burning the first three.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Jeez. Well I was going to try and go down with a single day at DHS, but the odds aren't very good. I guess I might have to wait until the pandemic ends.
Your odds are actually better now. As park capacity increases, the number of people trying will increase thus reducing your chance of being successful.
 

HauntedPirate

Sheltered-at-home Park nostalgist
Premium Member
Your odds are actually better now. As park capacity increases, the number of people trying will increase thus reducing your chance of being successful.

But... but... JT said if they just use BG’s in all the other parks, demand for Rise will fall and more people will be able to experience RotR. How could he be wrong?
 

nickys

Premium Member
In addition there likely will be additional changes. 35% of max capacity is not far from normal daily standard capacity. Phased closures are rare.

By forcing people to choose a BG each day you are ensuring far fewer will choose Rise as that option.

If a park hopper really wants to ride FoP (and this is many people's favorite) they will have to join that BG. That removes them from Rise as an option.

The result will be a much higher percentage of those choosing Rise will be first timers rather than repeat riders. It isn't that Rise won't be at capacity, it will be that many more guests will have the chance to experience the ride. Of course, with limited availability there are never guarantees. But very motivated guests will likely succeed.

As mentioned, separate ticket events, if possible, are also a way to help with demand.
You’d force people to choose a BG? What if they don’t want to? What if they’r chicken, or too little, or just don’t care? And park hoppers would never be able to ride anything with a BG, all slots would be gone in seconds. Or minutes if we’re going to be super optimistic.


Look, the biggest problem with the BG only system is that if you don’t get a BG you cannot ride, ever.

There be a choice to wait in line. And that would have a natural cut-off point at which no one in their right minds would conjoin the line, but at least the option exists for the die-hard few who have just one chance to experience a ride.
 

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