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News Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance opening reports and using Boarding Groups at Disney's Hollywood Studios

Giss Neric

Giss Neric

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TrainChasers said:
well obviously everyone who tries to get a BG isn’t getting one.
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I know the process is too stressful and there should be a better and fair way but we have to deal it's current state now. Also most people lack research too, as always. I have gotten tips by watching multiple theme park vloggers. Most if not all of them, small and huge followings, local APs and out of state folks from California etc. always books a group 100% whenever they go the parks to vlog it. It goes to show that they mastered their own booking strategies and I have applied these strategies which benefited me also. Maybe casual visitors/first time visitors should watch vlogs if they don't wanna research through websites or social media just saying.
 
TrainChasers

TrainChasers

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Giss Neric said:
I know the process is too stressful and there should be a better and fair way but we have to deal it's current state now. Also most people lack research too, as always. I have gotten tips by watching multiple theme park vloggers. Most if not all of them, small and huge followings, local APs and out of state folks from California etc. always books a group 100% whenever they go the parks to vlog it. It goes to show that they mastered their own booking strategies and I have applied these strategies which benefited me also. Maybe casual visitors/first time visitors should watch vlogs if they don't wanna research through websites or social media just saying.
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I have no clue what point you are trying to make. No matter how much research people do, more people will try to get a BG in the first 5 minutes than will be able to get one.
 
Dapale

Dapale

Member
EDIT: Service unfortunately down completely right now

Not to put @DCBaker out of work, but I was inspired by his constant posts of VQ / BG distribution times.

I made an API site that is free to use w/o limitations (lets keep it that way by not slamming it with requests) that contains information about:
- Next BG distribution time
- Last BG distribution duration (how long it took groups to run out for the last distribution time)
- Current groups being boarded
- The "status" of the attraction (boarding, down, closed) [this is estimated: if no group is called for > 20 mins, the system considers Rise down]

This data is auto-updated every 30 seconds:

I also have data that is stored per-day of every "event" that occurs in relation to boarding groups:
- Boarding begins
- Downtime begins
- Group called
- VQ distribution closed (so you can see every day's VQ distribution times)

Replace the last part of the URL with the date you are searching (must contains 0s for non double-digit numbers [ex. 01-03-2021])

*Please note this is in the form of raw data so it may not be the easiest to read / understand. I might give it a bit of style if I have the time in the future
**I just got this up and running a day ago, so the data only begins from 12/03/2020.
***Boarding group distribution durations are usually with 0.1 - 0.3 seconds of their actual closing time
****At the end of the day, the system will always consider the ride going "down" until I get more information about park closing times implemented

Let me know what you guys think! :)
 
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TrainChasers

TrainChasers

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marni1971 said:
I’m not saying that.

Multiply the HORC by park hours.
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Hmm... I respect you a lot, I’m getting a weird vibe from your replies to me, hopefully I didn’t say something to annoy you.

I’m not exactly following the point you were trying to make regarding the VQ / BG situation but that’s ok. Maybe I need more coffee. :)
 
TJ Vazquez

TJ Vazquez

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In the Parks
No
TrainChasers said:
Hmm... I respect you a lot, I’m getting a weird vibe from your replies to me, hopefully I didn’t say something to annoy you.

I’m not exactly following the point you were trying to make regarding the VQ / BG situation but that’s ok. Maybe I need more coffee. :)
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Not to creep into your conversation, but it sounds like Martin is saying the shorter/cut hours (2 to 4 hours less than usual) are driving some of the issues around people not being able to ride.
 
TrainChasers

TrainChasers

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No creep away! Lol.

Ahhh ok that makes sense. I wasn’t connecting the dots.

I think the out of park VQ is probably the best solution for now, it keeps people from trying to rope drop the attraction and it keeps people from gathering at the park to get a VQ.

My personal solution to this issue post January 1, is make multiple reservations to DHS for my vacation and either cancel and schedule another park day of, if available, or plan to park hop.
 
marni1971

marni1971

WDW History nut
Premium Member
TrainChasers said:
Hmm... I respect you a lot, I’m getting a weird vibe from your replies to me, hopefully I didn’t say something to annoy you.

I’m not exactly following the point you were trying to make regarding the VQ / BG situation but that’s ok. Maybe I need more coffee. :)
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Sorry, no.

Take the operational hourly capacity of around 1740. Multiply by park hours, say 10 or 12. You’re at around 20000 riders on a day when there could be 30, 35000 in the park. Assuming no down time and no Fastpass.
 
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seascape

Well-Known Member
marni1971 said:
Sorry, no.

Take the operational hourly capacity of around 1740. Multiply by park hours, say 10 or 12. You’re at around 20000 riders on a day when there could be 30, 35000 in the park. Assuming no down time and no Fastpass.
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They need to build a second planet for star wars. That way HS would be a 2 day park with lots more to see. Eventually. HS should be drawing over 20 million a year. Building a new plant in the parking lot behind Indiana Jones and maybe a third with some type of transportation over World Drive and a new Marvel section where the parking garage and Animation Building ate. Thst would bring capacity above Magic Kingdom. There is no reason capacity and attendance for HS can't go over 25 million a year. All that is needed is desire to build what is desired by the consumer.
 
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Purduevian

Well-Known Member
marni1971 said:
Sorry, no.

Take the operational hourly capacity of around 1740. Multiply by park hours, say 10 or 12. You’re at around 20000 riders on a day when there could be 30, 35000 in the park. Assuming no down time and no Fastpass.
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FYI this is NOT a RotR only issue, there are many people every day that are trying to get on FOP, 7D, and other high profile rides that simply won't because the line is too long when they want to go. RotR doesn't have that issue because of the boarding groups.
 
MisterPenguin

MisterPenguin

Rumormonger
Premium Member
Purduevian said:
FYI this is NOT a RotR only issue, there are many people every day that are trying to get on FOP, 7D, and other high profile rides that simply won't because the line is too long when they want to go. RotR doesn't have that issue because of the boarding groups.
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And that's why every ride should be an E-Ticket!
 
Capsin4

Capsin4

Well-Known Member
TrainChasers said:
Because the attraction can’t run reliably?

Typically anyone who wants to can ride an attraction as long as they are willing to wait in the line.
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Purduevian said:
FYI this is NOT a RotR only issue, there are many people every day that are trying to get on FOP, 7D, and other high profile rides that simply won't because the line is too long when they want to go. RotR doesn't have that issue because of the boarding groups.
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The difference is that’s a choice.
 
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Purduevian

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Capsin4 said:
The difference is that’s a choice.
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100%... but that is part of the issue with RoTR boarding groups. There isn't a huge tradeoff to riding RoTR. The only thing you loose out on is a little sleep (6:55am wake up) and about an hourish of park time. That is worth it for many people.

If they opened up standby and the line got to 2.5,3 or even 4 hours, many people would choose to not enter the line.
 

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