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Star Wars Land announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios

rushtest4echo

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Not sure what you are talking about, Video vertigo. Pilot will have an effect on outcome.
No doubt he will, much in the same way that steering toward and asteroid or avoiding fit from other ships has an affect on the outcome in Starfox.


Imagine being in a cockpit of that ship, with gunners on each side. Your "path" is predetermined, but your ability to maneuver around as the pilot determines lots of outcomes and places the gunners in favorable positions to hit targets. I'm sure you'll lose prestige/points if you collide with objects and/or get hit by other stuff like missiles. It'll probably be incumbent on the gunners to "shoot down" missiles or objects that the pilot can't avoid.

Much like Toy Story Mania or Sum of All Thrills, this "ride" is probably better described as an arcade game on steroids.
 

NormC

Premium Member
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Thanks for the explanation.
 

jpeden

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
Here's an example of 1.5 acres used for an 8-story hotel with 124 to 214 rooms and almost 9,000 s.f. of retail space.

There are a number of issues with building a hotel inside the park. We've seen some of those with the Cinderella Suite at the Magic Kingdom - someone has to stand guard at your room to make sure you don't get out and run around the park while it's closed. There's also the issue of how to provide dining and other amenities.

Few things are impossible with enough time and money, but I'm not sure that Disney is willing to go down that road. It may be less hassle just to do cabanas (or retail space, etc.).
The real issue is how are you going to be able to leave the hotel after the park closes? The other hotels of this nature are attached to the theme park, offering the ability to exit to a non-theme park area. If it's in the actual park, that option goes away and I don't see that going over well with guests at all.
 

rushtest4echo

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It won't be in the park as far as one's ability to freely roam between the two. You obviously need to keep non-hotel guests out of the hotel too so there will be some park gate between the two even if the hotel is literally built into the land. Maybe it'll be something like these hotels at Phantasialand in Germany:



The lower African themed hotel (Matamba) and upper Chinese themed (Ling Bao) are extremely well integrated into the park- the best I've ever seen by a wide margin. They're still "separate" with gates between the two but you'd be hard pressed to tell where the park ends and the hotel begins. Even the courtyards between the park and hotels share the same space.

And by the way: those hotels are easily up there with the best that Disney offers for a fraction of the price. The last two times we've had the pleasure of visiting Phantasialand, we got a decent room for two nights and two days worth of tickets for under EUR 400. That's an insane bargain especially for a hotel that challenges the likes of Animal Kingdom Lodge. The absolutely murder Disneyland Paris's offerings for 1/3 of the cost and are only 4-5 hours away- and provide service/amenities on a whole different plane than the pitiful stuff Paris does for such a higher price. Europa Park on the French border has similarly priced amazing hotels too. And people wonder why Paris has so much trouble. ;)
 
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Capsin4

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No one has yet to explain how anyone other then Disney is directing the movements of the "ship" other the a very narrow range of movement. Skeptical? Yes, just a little.
You're looking for an explanation as to why it's in space and has the potential for faster than light travel, but not open world? Why? Has anything suggested it would be? Or that it wouldn't? It seems as though there are lots of ways to handle this. The main boundary, in my mind, is time. You could give ultimate control to the riders who have a mission to accomplish before being overwhelmed by enemy ships. Follow the intelligent navigation and do what is meant to be done or crash and burn (or get diabled and caught in a tractor beam). Boundaries on the piloting experience don't need to be "physical".
 

RSoxNo1

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It won't be in the park as far as one's ability to freely roam between the two. You obviously need to keep non-hotel guests out of the hotel too so there will be some park gate between the two even if the hotel is literally built into the land. Maybe it'll be something like these hotels at Phantasialand in Germany:



The lower African themed hotel (Matamba) and upper Chinese themed (Ling Bao) are extremely well integrated into the park- the best I've ever seen by a wide margin. They're still "separate" with gates between the two but you'd be hard pressed to tell where the park ends and the hotel begins. Even the courtyards between the park and hotels share the same space.

And by the way: those hotels are easily up there with the best that Disney offers for a fraction of the price. The last two times we've had the pleasure of visiting Phantasialand, we got a decent room for two nights and two days worth of tickets for under EUR 400. That's an insane bargain especially for a hotel that challenges the likes of Animal Kingdom Lodge. The absolutely murder Disneyland Paris's offerings for 1/3 of the cost and are only 4-5 hours away- and provide service/amenities on a whole different plane than the pitiful stuff Paris does for such a higher price. Europa Park on the French border has similarly priced amazing hotels too. And people wonder why Paris has so much trouble. ;)
What about Mira Costa in DisneySea? That seems to work pretty well.
 

rushtest4echo

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Not trying to throw shade at Martin, he's not the source of much of the bogus Star Wars Land timelines, but I think I've seen:
"WDW's version is significantly behind Disneyland's timeline. Disneyland started theirs a year early and are fast tracking it, meaning they'll open a couple of years earlier"

then that morphed to:
"WDW's version is behind Disneyland's timeline and they're going slower. Disneyland had more to do so WDW's will have time to catch up, though it'll still end up opening a year behind"

that became:
"WDW's version is behind Disneyland's and I'd be surprised if they accelerated it. Disneyland hopes to finish Summer 2019 and WDW's is shooting for the following Spring"

Then Iger said "2019" and so of course the rumor mill was adjusted:
"Disneyland's version will open in 2019, that's what he meant, WDW's is later the next year"

Then they clearly stated that both would be opening in 2019, so again we needed new rumors:
"Disneyland's version will be early 2019 and WDW's will be late 2019"

And bets on how many more times this will change? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
 
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