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News Star Wars Galactic Starcruiser coming to Walt Disney World 2021

kingdead

Well-Known Member
Different people have different opinions about the quality of the movies. Regardless, the movies didn't have to affect the quality of the park itself. Yet somehow Disney managed to

- made a park without any of the most popular characters
- made a park without ANY characters or interaction, really (you're expecting to see aliens in the Star Wars land, right? Or talk to droids? Not gonna happen!)
- made a park without much to do for children (the lightsaber experience at the hotel is obviously an attraction for kids and maybe some adults who didn't want to go to Savi's, not something really immersive)
- made a park in which these theme park experiences that are basic to every other Disney park were gatekept within a hotel that costs $2.5k a night!

Oh, and don't forget that lots of the good experiences (Savi's, Oga's, Rise until a few months ago) involve upcharges, have to be scheduled months in advance, or are part of a reservation system that involves referencing the ATOMIC CLOCK.

People are mad because they're going through all the stress and expense of a boutique experience to get a final product that's Six Flags quality. And that's not Kennedy, that's all Bob Chapek.
 

LadyPink

Member
I have a question. Does Disney OWN the rights to classic Star Wars characters for the parks? Is this like Universal? When they purchase Star Wars is it in their contract there not allowed to use Princess Leia, Han Solo, etc within the parks? Because that's the vibe I'm getting with the new land and hotels.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
Different people have different opinions about the quality of the movies. Regardless, the movies didn't have to affect the quality of the park itself. Yet somehow Disney managed to

- made a park without any of the most popular characters
- made a park without ANY characters or interaction, really (you're expecting to see aliens in the Star Wars land, right? Or talk to droids? Not gonna happen!)
- made a park without much to do for children (the lightsaber experience at the hotel is obviously an attraction for kids and maybe some adults who didn't want to go to Savi's, not something really immersive)
- made a park in which these theme park experiences that are basic to every other Disney park were gatekept within a hotel that costs $2.5k a night!

Oh, and don't forget that lots of the good experiences (Savi's, Oga's, Rise until a few months ago) involve upcharges, have to be scheduled months in advance, or are part of a reservation system that involves referencing the ATOMIC CLOCK.

People are mad because they're going through all the stress and expense of a boutique experience to get a final product that's Six Flags quality. And that's not Kennedy, that's all Bob Chapek.

I said it maybe a year ago or more - pay some people to put Star Wars character costumes on and walk around GE like they are going about their day.
Pay a couple more as character actors to barter in the bazaar.
Put some of those droids that they built but can't let out among the crowds of kids that would inevitably climb all over them within in the penned in area that surrounds the Falcon.
 

Touchdown

Well-Known Member
I have a question. Does Disney OWN the rights to classic Star Wars characters for the parks? Is this like Universal? When they purchase Star Wars is it in their contract there not allowed to use Princess Leia, Han Solo, etc within the parks? Because that's the vibe I'm getting with the new land and hotels.
They own Lucasfilm which owns the rights to all those characters.
 

ImperfectPixie

Well-Known Member
I have a question. Does Disney OWN the rights to classic Star Wars characters for the parks? Is this like Universal? When they purchase Star Wars is it in their contract there not allowed to use Princess Leia, Han Solo, etc within the parks? Because that's the vibe I'm getting with the new land and hotels.
As far as I know, they own the whole shebang outright and can do whatever they want.

They chose to focus on their version of Star Wars for the parks.
 

Casper Gutman

Well-Known Member
Different people have different opinions about the quality of the movies. Regardless, the movies didn't have to affect the quality of the park itself. Yet somehow Disney managed to

- made a park without any of the most popular characters
- made a park without ANY characters or interaction, really (you're expecting to see aliens in the Star Wars land, right? Or talk to droids? Not gonna happen!)
- made a park without much to do for children (the lightsaber experience at the hotel is obviously an attraction for kids and maybe some adults who didn't want to go to Savi's, not something really immersive)
- made a park in which these theme park experiences that are basic to every other Disney park were gatekept within a hotel that costs $2.5k a night!

Oh, and don't forget that lots of the good experiences (Savi's, Oga's, Rise until a few months ago) involve upcharges, have to be scheduled months in advance, or are part of a reservation system that involves referencing the ATOMIC CLOCK.

People are mad because they're going through all the stress and expense of a boutique experience to get a final product that's Six Flags quality. And that's not Kennedy, that's all Bob Chapek.
This is dead on.

And Rise still involves two of the impediments you describe - you need to use a very accurate clock AND pay an upcharge.

If Disney was so intent on canonical integrity, instead of having one side of the land be First Order and the other Resistance, one could have been OT and one ST. Or they could have done the even more logical thing and built multiple lands, ala Uni and Potter - how about Endor in the AK, with a big emphasis on all the great creatures in Star Wars, which are almost totally absent from Batuu? Naboo in the MK? I’d pay.
 

TikibirdLand

Well-Known Member
Different people have different opinions about the quality of the movies. Regardless, the movies didn't have to affect the quality of the park itself. Yet somehow Disney managed to

- made a park without any of the most popular characters
- made a park without ANY characters or interaction, really (you're expecting to see aliens in the Star Wars land, right? Or talk to droids? Not gonna happen!)
- made a park without much to do for children (the lightsaber experience at the hotel is obviously an attraction for kids and maybe some adults who didn't want to go to Savi's, not something really immersive)
- made a park in which these theme park experiences that are basic to every other Disney park were gatekept within a hotel that costs $2.5k a night!

Oh, and don't forget that lots of the good experiences (Savi's, Oga's, Rise until a few months ago) involve upcharges, have to be scheduled months in advance, or are part of a reservation system that involves referencing the ATOMIC CLOCK.

People are mad because they're going through all the stress and expense of a boutique experience to get a final product that's Six Flags quality. And that's not Kennedy, that's all Bob Chapek.
couldn't we say the same thing about Pandora? Where are the Avatars walking around? We see foot prints. We see ONE in some kind of amniotic liquid in the queue of FOP but none outside. If you remember anything about the movie, there's really nothing to tie it to the movie. At the end of the day, it shares an example of an excellent ride and a meh ride. The only thing it misses is an Avatar hotel. I shouldn't be giving them ideas!
 

matt9112

Well-Known Member
Misogynist comments about Kennedy aren't going to do anything to dispel the stereotype of sci-fi fans being social outcasts who live in their parents' basement.

I love how Kennedy is somehow to blame for anything Star Wars, but not, the males who are the ones who actually write and direct the movies.

Plus, she of course gets no credit for things people do like.

Didn't like Rise of Skywalker? It's Kennedy's fault, not JJ Abrams. Love the Mandalorian? That's all Dave Filoni, not Kennedy.

If my boss tells me to do something and it sucks....why is it my fault? Accountability...its a thing.
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
This is dead on.

And Rise still involves two of the impediments you describe - you need to use a very accurate clock AND pay an upcharge.

If Disney was so intent on canonical integrity, instead of having one side of the land be First Order and the other Resistance, one could have been OT and one ST. Or they could have done the even more logical thing and built multiple lands, ala Uni and Potter - how about Endor in the AK, with a big emphasis on all the great creatures in Star Wars, which are almost totally absent from Batuu? Naboo in the MK? I’d pay.
Yes, an ENDOR themed area / experience would fit very nicely adjacent to AK.
 

GimpYancIent

Well-Known Member
If my boss tells me to do something and it sucks....why is it my fault? Accountability...its a thing.
I do not believe anyone is putting any blame or anything else on the shoulders of the worker bees, rather it is being focused on the decision makers lack of vision, creativity and judgement. The name folks at the top.
 

Hawg G

Well-Known Member
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Gosh willy geez this is amazing!

How do you think Disney will handle the people demanding refunds?

Free genie plus for the day?

This does look particularly bad. It looks more Trek than Wars. 1990s Trek. I want to be on a bridge with a CGI Admiral Akbar barking out orders, and a screen accurate control panel. Not some horrible joystick and button control panel torn from an old Taito arcade machine in front of a CRT.
 

ImperfectPixie

Well-Known Member
Because of the team (story group) she spearheaded and put in place to do just this.. and were the architects of the new Disney Star Wars.. not the film directors.

And Jon and Dave F have been big enough to drive their own ship.
Is she not also the one who decided to just get rid of the hundreds of books, etc. that were written as non-canon?

The films made by Disney have also been plagued by issues with directors, writers, etc. I'd love to know why. (Good leadership, IMO, would have ensured that these problems didn't occur.)
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
couldn't we say the same thing about Pandora? Where are the Avatars walking around? We see foot prints. We see ONE in some kind of amniotic liquid in the queue of FOP but none outside. If you remember anything about the movie, there's really nothing to tie it to the movie. At the end of the day, it shares an example of an excellent ride and a meh ride. The only thing it misses is an Avatar hotel. I shouldn't be giving them ideas!
Yes, we can say much the same about Pandora.
Except that Disney made promises about GE being a living experience beyond what they implied about Pandora.
Well, they did say Pandora would be more interactive and it could be.
But I think Pandora suffers less from it because it is a natural environment.
Often in nature, we don't see much large animal life at all. I'll include Navi in that.
But GE is urban.
It's supposed to be a bustling urban environment.
 
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Ldno

Well-Known Member
This post is quite ironic given the prediction that only the first one would sell out
it was sold out until April. I got curious two weeks ago just looking into pricing and looked into their reservations and could not find an opening until April. Seriously they even made news a while about how it was sold out for weeks.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I have a question. Does Disney OWN the rights to classic Star Wars characters for the parks? Is this like Universal? When they purchase Star Wars is it in their contract there not allowed to use Princess Leia, Han Solo, etc within the parks? Because that's the vibe I'm getting with the new land and hotels.

those people are old and boxed in inside the star wars universe. They want new characters and new stories so they have space to do new stuff
 

ChrisFL

Premium Member
couldn't we say the same thing about Pandora? Where are the Avatars walking around? We see foot prints. We see ONE in some kind of amniotic liquid in the queue of FOP but none outside. If you remember anything about the movie, there's really nothing to tie it to the movie. At the end of the day, it shares an example of an excellent ride and a meh ride. The only thing it misses is an Avatar hotel. I shouldn't be giving them ideas!

Yeah but nobody cares about walk-around Avatars
 

kingdead

Well-Known Member
Yes, we can say much the same about Pandora.
Except that Disney made promises about GE being a living experience beyond what they implied about Pandora.
Well, they did say Pandora would be more interactive and it could be.
But I think Pandora suffers less from it because it is a natural environment.
Often in nature, we don't see much large animal life. at all. I'll include Navi in that.
But GE is urban.
It's supposed to be a bustling urban environment.
Yup. Also, people aren't attached to the Navi as characters--can you remember the specific ones outside of Blue Man and Blue Woman? The beautiful alien nature was the star of the movie.
 

Cmdr_Crimson

Well-Known Member
Star Wars Weekends worked. It was a ton of fun. Once Disney bought Star Wars, they tried to take the joy out of it, and increase the diversity.

Theme park/hotel Star Wars just needs to be fun again!
This is also why you don't see the Disney Characters in SW outfits or any merchandise with them anymore..
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Skywise

Well-Known Member
I have a question. Does Disney OWN the rights to classic Star Wars characters for the parks? Is this like Universal? When they purchase Star Wars is it in their contract there not allowed to use Princess Leia, Han Solo, etc within the parks? Because that's the vibe I'm getting with the new land and hotels.
My personal understanding (which may be wrong) is that Lucas still gets royalties when HIS characters are used which was supposedly the impetus for killing the characters from the original movies and whacking the EU (which they did NOT do with Marvel!)
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
My personal understanding (which may be wrong) is that Lucas still gets royalties when HIS characters are used which was supposedly the impetus for killing the characters from the original movies and whacking the EU (which they did NOT do with Marvel!)

Whacking the EU was basically required if they wanted to include OT characters. There was some good stuff in the EU (the best of it was a lot better than the three sequel films) but there was also tremendous amounts of horrendous garbage.

I also don't think that other thing is true. They likely had to kill Solo to get Harrison Ford to agree to return at all; he always wanted the character to die. I'm not sure they had any plans to kill Leia but didn't have an option once Carrie Fisher died.
 

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