Good riddance! My brother hated it! Don’t be too surprise that Kathleen Kennedy will get fired next!
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SPOILER: The Acolyte -- Disney+ Star Wars -- begins June 5, 2024
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Ghost93
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The show was a mixed bag, but I would have had a season 2 to wrap up all the dangling loose threads. Even if most disliked the Acolypte, it's cancellation may make people hesitant to want to get invested in future Star Wars shows if there is no guarantee the stories told in the shows will be complete.
doctornick
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The sad thing to me is that I thought the show was decent enough until the finale when the inexplicably made Sol a villain?! I’m still not sure exactly who we were supposed to be rooting for in the series. The sensible people died, the annoying people lived and the main character who we seemed to be supposed to identify with killed a person who had her back her whole life.
I’m just wondering exactly was the pitch for this show that got it approved.
I’m just wondering exactly was the pitch for this show that got it approved.
I agree. I didn’t really enjoy it, but I was intrigued by it—and assumed Season 2 would have continued to show the relationship between the surviving characters, Yoda, and Plagueis. I’m definitely less likely to watch the next SW show unless I really enjoy the episodes as opposed to having faith hoping they are going somewhere compelling with it.
I actually thought they were setting Sol up to be the Anakin-like figure who gets lured to the dark side from the very first episode, and that would have made a lot of sense in the season finale if he murdered Mae or Qimir in cold blood to protect/avenge Osha. I agree that the most likable characters were all dead by the end of Season 1, but possibly even more infuriating was that neither Mae’s actions (agreeing to split from the sister she was obsessed with and have her mind wiped and be left for the Jedi!?) nor Osha’s actions (trusting Qimir who had murdered all of her Jedi friends) made any sense. The whole final scene with Vernestra painting it all on Sol made even less sense. I too am curious what the purpose/message of the show was supposed to be—unlike the cynics here, I don’t think it was actually pitched as “see, the Jedi are going to be evil, incompetent bureaucrats!” though I’m willing to believe it could be something like “being so confident in your own religion and blamelessness can inspire confidence to do evil things and make you blind to the flaws that will eventually lead to your downfall”— but I personally think they scripted the show in a way establishing the Jedi were right to rescue Osha based on what they learned from Mae.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
And we've been hearing that for almost a decade, and yet she still hasn't been fired.
Since her current contract ends this year at the end of 2024, she'll just finish her contract and retire.
That works too!
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Point is that she is going out on her own terms, not because she will be fired.That works too!
Wendy Pleakley
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And then they'll bring in this mythical person that will make consistently great Star Wars stuff that everybody loves!
Something even George Lucas couldn't do, but I digress...
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Well the hope is that person is Filoni as the new creative chief, but we’ll see how he does with the next couple movies and shows.
MoonRakerSCM
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I'm glad to see enough of the fandom has moved on and Disney is seeing the results of their actions.
MoonRakerSCM
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Think she made the sad or angry face when she heard the news?
TalkingHead
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At this point it’s more shocking when new SW content doesn’t crash and burn.
danlb_2000
Premium Member
Garbage show gets canceled.
Who could have ever guessed how bad this show would be ?
Canceled one season to late.
Ghost93
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I strongly believe at this point that there should be no more live action Star Wars shows. They just dilute the brand, making it all feel like "content" rather than modern day mythology.
They supposedly have taken break from theatrical Star Wars movies since 2019 to allow people to have the time to miss seeing Star Wars on the big screen, but to the average consumer it never feels like Star Wars ever went away with multiple seasons of the Mandalorian, Andor, the Book of Boba Fett, Ahsoka, Obi-Wan and the Acolyte coming out. Not to mention the more niche animated shows and shorts like the Bad Batch, Star Wars Visions and Tales of the Jedi/Tales of the Empire.
Of those, only first two seasons of the Mandalorian and the first season of Andor were good/great. I liked Ahsoka, but the show is completely inaccessible to casual fans who have not seen 7 seasons of the Clone Wars and 4 seasons of Rebels — both shows that, while good, have the perception among casuals of being just for children. Meanwhile, Obi-wan was a huge letdown, the Acolyte was a mixed bag, and the Book of Boba Fett outright sucked. Even the Mandalorian season 3 disappointed fans and severely harmed the Mandalorian IP.
TalkingHead
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When you factor in the multitude of announced/scuttled film productions, it’s pretty obvious what the game plan is for SW as an IP.
Wendy Pleakley
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I've seen a lot of the animated episodes, and personally never thought they were as brilliant as some do. I'm not 100% sold on him. His focus has been on building on existing material, does he have what it takes to bring forth original ideas?
Ahsoka was decent, but again seemed to rely on retelling a lot of familiar Star Wars tropes. Of course, maybe that's what they need, given how many fans are only happy when they get A New Hope spoon fed to them over and over.
Some tend to forget that there was a long gap between Jedi and Phantom Menace. The movies were huge because of that pent up demand.
With the current approach, Star Wars will be more like Star Trek as a franchise, where lots of things do well, but few become huge moments in the pop culture zeitgeist. That might be okay with Disney though. They want a reliable performer, not a once a decade event.
We'll see how the new movies perform. Daisy Ridley as Rey should be a draw. The movies will always offer bigger spectacle than the TV shows.
I like Andor as a supplement to the films because it's a story you can't tell as a movie. It lets us see what's happening in the background of the action focused movies. It's not a substitute for the films. The Acolyte had some good lightsaber battles, but you have to save that stuff for the films.
flynnibus
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Building on existing? Well he's working within a defined universe with major milestones all around him.. I don't know how you'd hold that against him. The Clone Wars is known for having some of the best story arcs in the canon... plus some great villian stories. He basically brought back the grit and realism feel to the live action shows. He seems to root every writing decision based in star wars terms instead of social campaigning terms... he is the closest thing to a Star Wars diehard as you can get I think.