The person I replied to said he didnt care about the theme. So I was saying the ride meaning the ride mechanism, wasnt going to change.
I think it’s important to also consider that there was almost no way that some publisher would have come by and offered slaves to come together and have someone write down the stories, all while getting a piece of the profit. That just wouldn’t have happened, and even if they did share the stories with a publisher, their masters would have gotten the money, not them. Quite different from European folklorists who weren’t slaves and had their stories appropriated and changed over time. They were at least remembered. The slaves? Not so much. And then to create a character like Remus, who is self-hating and very much an Uncle Tom figure doesn’t really help. And then more appropriation comes along the way, African Americans are still suffering, and so on and so on. These circumstances are vastly different, in my opinion.That is nice to hear as an English Teacher myself.
I am just of the mindset that captilism just did not exist in cultures for a long time and if given the chance those cultures would have more published versions, but it is not wrong that other cultures did not do it the same way when oral traditions were the way there. Obviously not during JCH's time but If someone comes and does a better more relevant version of those stories, they will win that popularity and financial game. It tends to work with whoever does it best. Ultimately that is why Walt Disney, this white American Guy has the most.popular versions of.mpst.lf.tjee stories. His teams dkd the best versions of the cultural eternal truths.
Sounds like an impressive thesis!
Thank you. I enjoyed doing the research and putting everything together, but I don’t think I ever want to do that again. Lol.
What they said was wrong was to take stories from marginalized people and profit from that. You're visibly twisting their words and then calling that interpretation "extreme" - but their opinion isn't extreme if you actually read it as stated.Do you think Bugs Bunny is another form of the Trickster? That should explain that. No need to insult my intellect.
Your extreme take, which was any story based on tales of stories from a marginalized group adapted for profit are inherently wrong. That would include mother goose and the likes of other published adaptions of folk tales and legends.
What they said was wrong was to take stories from marginalized people and profit from that. You're visibly twisting their words and then calling that interpretation "extreme" - but their opinion isn't extreme if you actually read it as stated.
If the retheme sucks I'll absolutely be vocal about it. Tiana deserves the best ride she could possibly have, especially being the turning point for the modern day Disney Princess. But removing an IP with a controversial history is absolutely necessary with that as well. They are taking their time with changes which is absolutely a good sign for me.
It's all pretty predictable after awhile with modern Disney.
Zip finale being dig a little deeper jubilee. Music, limited figures, projections, some being fireworks.
It is predictable but if done well (but "if" I know) it could make for a really enjoyable experience.
This is EXACTLY what I’m worried about…the comparison between Splash and the other 2 are light years apart.If you think frozen ever after was done well or that Mickey and Minnie was done well I’m sure you will enjoy this. To me that is what we’re getting. There simply not going to want to spend the money to make something Jaw dropping.
This is why Splash mountain is being used after all. The bones of the attraction both industrially as well as rockwork and background scenic as long as maintenance is done properly are perfect. They are just going to implement the tones that are already there.
It will likely fall lazy besides the obvious animatronic and figures to screens with all the little stuff not getting an equal or better replacement. The ride is designed to go under the visible water level as hidden by the mess of briar patch.
And honestly I think the vast majority of guests will be very happy with it.
I friend just went with a school group and of the 140 kids none of them had any idea of the characters or what was going on in Splash Mountain - but they still really enjoyed the the ride system .... So keep the bones but put in a more known/popular IP and vast majority of guests will be very happy (while some are very much not)
This is probably going a little too far off track, but just last night for a project I'm working on I was reading through the book Tender Comrades that is basically a collection of oral history interviews from blacklisted Hollywood artists from various fields. One is screenwriter Maurice Rapf who was brought in to Disney specifically to work on Song of the South. Interestingly, he said he told Walt during their first meeting that he didn't think Walt should make the movie as it was going to be an 'Uncle Tom movie' and he remembers Walt's response as "That's exactly why I want you to work on it - because I know you don't think I should make the movie. You're against Uncle Tomism, and you're a radical. That's exactly the kind of point of view I want brought to the film."Until he was told it was, then... I guess it was intentional.
Not many kids in the early 90s, myself included knew either, but the ride is legendary because it is good.
No one is doubting many will think good enough, modern Disney banks on it, but you lose another above and beyond most of the time due to it.
They said there would be new characters.I’m sure it has been discussed, but I’m curious… the ride being a sequel, are we assuming the two most memorable characters from the film (besides, arguably, Tiana herself), Facilier and Ray, will be absent or, at the least, very minor components of the ride?
By new characters, I suspect we’re talking about the existing Splash Mountain AAs in slightly different outfits. So possibly no Ray, no Facilier, not even the frog forms that the protagonists inhabit for most of the film. The sequel format is a bad idea, even worse then in Frozen Ever After.They said there would be new characters.
If Lottie and Eudora are absent, I am done.
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