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Splash Mountain Announcement for Disneyland

Practical Pig

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Why? Who’s to say that’s the way things must be proved?
Burden of Proof is an essential, deeply ingrained principle governing our collective culture of communication. Those that make remarkable claims bear the burden of proof to prove those claims. There is no burden of proof to an opposing viewpoint to disprove the claimer's claim. If you claim that 2 + 2 = 5, you need to show your work.
 

egg

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At a certain point, you really have to wonder why those who demand Disneyland change, for whatever reason, even claim to like Disneyland. Is it really just because it’s “high end” and based on popular IPs? If you want to remove the fundamentals of the park, I don’t get how or why you ever fell in love with it in the first place.
Maybe because it’s been changing for 66 years, and if it didn’t, it wouldn’t be successful. Just like you can love a sport and want it to change. Just like I love this country and want it to change.
 

Model3 McQueen

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In the Parks
No
Maybe because it’s been changing for 66 years, and if it didn’t, it wouldn’t be successful. Just like you can love a sport and want it to change. Just like I love this country and want it to change.

So can we get baby groots house of fun in place of Haunted, or Olafs sled ride in place of matterhorn, or Navi river in place of Pirates? Cause you know, disneyland will never be complete and stuff.

Pixar Pier and Main Street Cinemas makeshift shop are the sort of changes a Bob finds acceptable. Doesn't that scare you at least a little bit?
 

egg

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So can we get baby groots house of fun in place of Haunted, or Olafs sled ride in place of matterhorn, or Navi river in place of Pirates? Cause you know, disneyland will never be complete and stuff.

Pixar Pier and Main Street Cinemas makeshift shop are the sort of changes a Bob finds acceptable. Doesn't that scare you at least a little bit?
Oh I’m not suggesting all of the current changes are good or that the current direction of the company is really healthy. But being against change in general is really bad because the place would inevitably die out and become a niche relic of the past.
 

CaptinEO

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Oh I’m not suggesting all of the current changes are good or that the current direction of the company is really healthy. But being against change in general is really bad because the place would inevitably die out and become a niche relic of the past.
It's hard to be pro change when the last 5 years have had so many poor decisions made. I'm pro change of Disney's leadership.
 

CaptinEO

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We aren't all corporate like a lot of folks on here who eat up all these garbage rethemes.

I'm sure these same people wouldve supported the Nemo retheme that happened to Epcot's Seas and Winnie the Pooh taking over 20k League Submarines in Magic Kingdom and Country Bears in Disneyland.

Disney has proved they know how to destroy their classics, and pixie dusters eat it up since they are in love with a corporation.
 
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Kate F

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It's Ok. We aren't all like a lot of folks on here who eat up all these garbage rethemes.

I'm sure these same people wouldve supported the Nemo retheme that happened to Epcot's Seas and Winnie the Pooh taking over 20k League Submarines in Magic Kingdom and Country Bears in Disneyland.

Disney has proved they know how to destroy their classics, and pixie dusters eat it up since they are in love with a corporation.
I feel like people think of me like “oh boo hoo, she’s upset over a theme park ride, she needs to get over it.” It’s deeper than that. This whole situation has actually negatively affected my mental health and coming here wrecks my self-esteem because I know people don’t respect me or take me seriously, but I continue to engage anyway.
 
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CaptinEO

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I feel like people think of me like “oh boo hoo, she’s upset over a theme park ride, she needs to get over it.” It’s deeper than that. This whole situation has actually negatively affected my mental health and coming here wrecks my self-esteem because I know people don’t respect me or take me seriously, but I continue to engage anyway.
I hear you on that. The removal deeply saddens me. For every person like us who are engaging online our love of splash, there are tons who are refusing to talk out of fear. I absolutely respect you.

Never would I have imagined the company would tarnish Walt Disney and Tony Baxter's character to make a quick cash in.

Disney has historically destroyed classic attractions, mainly in the late 90s and early 2000s, and now the cycle is happening again. Epcot, DL Tommorowland, and Magic Kingdom still haven't recovered from the destruction of this time period Keep on making your voice heard.

I see it as not only a ride being removed but the death of what the park used to be. We go from charming cartoons to things like Galaxy's Edge and Spider Man's office park.
 

el_super

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I hear you on that. The removal deeply saddens me. For every person like us who are engaging online our love of splash, there are tons who are refusing to talk out of fear. I absolutely respect you.

This thread has been more focused on trying to prove that social change isn't needed, or specifically how the ride isn't racist, than they have been on actually sharing any kind of love of Splash Mountain. Rather than talking about the ride, I keep seeing arguments about the woke mob, how cheap Chapek is, and that guy from twitter whose name I already forgot. People will be called out for that.

You want to talk about Splash Mountain then talk about Splash Mountain.

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Roger_the_pianist

Active Member
I don't think this was intended to be a Splash Mountain love thread.

Ideally we would be monitoring the progress of the revamp, but Disney takes forever to do anything. Jungle Cruise was obviously a priority since the movie was on the way and the attraction would get more attention, and the problems were more overt there.

I had no idea Splash had a cult following. I use the word cult not so lightly in this context.
 

Kate F

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I don't think this was intended to be a Splash Mountain love thread.

Ideally we would be monitoring the progress of the revamp, but Disney takes forever to do anything. Jungle Cruise was obviously a priority since the movie was on the way and the attraction would get more attention, and the problems were more overt there.

I had no idea Splash had a cult following. I use the word cult not so lightly in this context.
Why wouldn’t one of the most popular rides at the resort have a strong following? Why does that surprise you? That’s like me saying I didn’t know Pirates was so popular.
 

BuzzedPotatoHead89

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I had no idea Splash had a cult following. I use the word cult not so lightly in this context.

While it may not be in the Pirates/HM echelon of “untouchable” status among the fandom is anyone really that surprised there’s some resistance to this though? While I’m not advocating to keep it as is, surely there was expected to be some pushback.

While not to dismiss the source material, it is a popular E-ticket built by a legacy imagineer that (rightly or wrongly) is tied to a popularized soundtrack that Disney themselves was marketing in the mainstream for the last 3 decades. Based purely on the history it’s just an uncomfortable/sloppy and arguably unconvincing 180 for Disney to try to pull their most loyal fans along for.

Especially given WDI hasn’t exactly been coming up with aces in the hole lately on some of their CapEx projects, I can see why there’s some concern for what the final project may portend.
 

Inspired Figment

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I had no idea Splash had a cult following.
Really?? One of the ‘most popular’
theme park attractions for decades wouldn’t have a cult-like following much like rides like Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, Tower of Terror, Space Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain, etc. had/still have?
It’s one thing to not like the original theming and be in favor of a retheme, it’s another to be in total denial of the past ride’s popularity & legacy.
 
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Kate F

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This thread has been more focused on trying to prove that social change isn't needed, or specifically how the ride isn't racist, than they have been on actually sharing any kind of love of Splash Mountain. Rather than talking about the ride, I keep seeing arguments about the woke mob, how cheap Chapek is, and that guy from twitter whose name I already forgot. People will be called out for that.

You want to talk about Splash Mountain then talk about Splash Mountain.

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I tried to make a Splash appreciation thread and there were still people who wanted to bring the retheme biz into it.
 

Kate F

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I kinda wonder how people expected fans of the ride to react if they think our response has been irrational. It’s an E-ticket Disney attraction that has been around for three decades and is a fan favorite. If it were announced that Haunted Mansion Holidays was permanent, I would expect Haunted Mansion fans to be just as angry as we have been. After all, it is an old ride, and people are familiar with the NBC characters. And its merch sells like hotcakes too.

I’m joking of course, but I really don’t know what people expected from fans of Splash. Obviously it wasn’t gonna go down without a hitch.
 

SplashGhost

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I think the classic Eisner era attractions like Splash Mountain, Tower of Terror, and Indiana Jones Adventure are worthy to stand aside the likes of Haunted Mansion and Pirates of the Caribbean and they should be considered untouchable. Just because something doesn't have a direct tie to Walt doesn't mean that it shouldn't be able to reach the status of "untouchable classic." In the late 80s and early 90s, Disney was still frequently making attractions worthy of standing alongside Pirates and Mansion. Now we get crap like Incredicoater and Web Slingers. Yes, I know Rise exists, but that is an anomaly that somehow immerged during the current era of WDI, whereas the norm is much closer to Incredicoaster.
 

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