Speculation: John Carter, Oz, Lone Ranger?

KevinYee

KevinYee

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The Johnny Depp movie Lone Ranger is back "on" with Disney today. Iger has said recently that he wants fewer movies, but which cost more and integrate better with video games, toys, parks.... in other words, synergy.

So I'm wondering if you all think there's a chance the other tentpole movies could show up in the parks. Maybe Avatar is the just the first wave of new park infusions.

  • Oz could go into DHS (where they already have an Oz presence)
  • Lone Ranger could go into Frontierland / Rivers of America area. After all, Disneyland had Zorro as a big presence in 1955.
  • John Carter of Mars could go, well, next to Avatarland. You could put Pandora and Mars next to each other (it's not as far fetched as you might think; DAK is basically a nature park - not an animal park - and the Martian landscapes could be cool.

All of the above assumes the movie(s) are successful, of course. But I could see studio executives greenlighting movies with an eye toward how they might play out in the parks (and with merchandising) later.
 
invader

invader

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Just going to throw this out there, but Muppets could expand in DHS too.

But yeah, never really contemplated it but it sounds like it could be true.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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I think it's possible ... there are blue sky Ranger plans for DL that are at least a year or two old.

But I think you're getting way ahead of yourself, Kevin.

You may think that far ahead, but Disney doesn't.
 
jjharvpro

jjharvpro

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Definitely wouldn't be surprised by Lone Ranger in Frontierland. That'd be a great fit!

Glad Iger wants less movies. Probably means they'll be more quality-driven.
 
FigmentJedi

FigmentJedi

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Avatar's bad enough for Animal Kingdom, I don't want John Carter there either. If they want to make a Sci-Fi land, take it to the studios and put it near Star Tours.
 
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wdwfan4ver

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I am happy that Iger wants less movies.

I wouldn't be shocked in Lone Ranger goes into Frontierland or the Muppets expand in DHS like others said.
 
Atomicmickey

Atomicmickey

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It all depends on the movies. TRON, I think, was supposed to be a prototype for this approach, and the movie didn't quite do well enough to get all the greenlights. (Hey, I thought it was OK, but not all that. I could see an area in a park, and a cool ride made from it, though. We may yet see that.)

Anyway, if the movies take off, then they'll want to go gangbusters. If they flop, nothing will happen.

Disney is not currently of the mindset that a ride can be great even if the movie isn't, and the reverse may not be true either. They're looking for the 1-2-3 kick, and those are hard to come by.

Pirates of the Caribbean! Now those movies could spawn a ride! Oh, wait.
That's what they're looking for, I think. But the films have to be good.

I cringed when I saw the John Carter trailer . . . hope they're fixin' that one up real good.
 
TalkingHead

TalkingHead

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jjharvpro said:
Glad Iger wants less movies. Probably means they'll be more quality-driven.
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If you judge the quality of movies based on their potential for toy-sales, then I suspect you're right. If you associate quality with storytelling, I suspect you may be wrong.

Who was the Disney Pictures exec who recently said story doesn't matter for tentpole movies?
 
Cosmic Commando

Cosmic Commando

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Florida Dreamin said:
But you never ever see anything having to do with the time period, in John Carter of Mars you do.
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So little of the books take place on Earth, and John Carter doesn't bring anything from 1880's Earth with him to Mars... in fact, I think every time he travels to Mars, he ends up there completely nekkid. The scenes on Earth are just setup for the real meat of the story; it's true in the first book, and extremely true in the second and third books. I think the third book may even drop the narration pretense altogether?

Just please don't put it in DAK. Conservation is the one thread that holds Avatar in with DAK's theme, and John Carter has none of that.
 
KevinYee

KevinYee

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Clever Name said:
1958
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Good correction. I have no idea why my fingers typed Zorro. I had a clear image of Fess Parker in my head from Opening Day ceremonies, so obviously what I meant to say was Davy Crockett. Kind of a rookie move on my part there. That will teach me to compose posts hastily!
 
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jumblue

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I have a sneaking suspicion John Carter could be replacing Narnia over in the Studios (no sources, just speculaiton). If they open it back up January/February for the March release, could drum up some buzz. Most of the actual shoot should be done, so they'd have some nice pieces/costumes to put on display...

I think it's interesting how despite most of the creative talent working on this is from Pixar, they're keeping the Disney brand name on it (Heaven forbid they put Pixar's name on a flop). Personally I'm really excited for this movie, especially after reading the first book. I'm midway through the second, and it's going to be interesting to see if/how they deal with "the black men of mars."
 
Atomicmickey

Atomicmickey

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jumblue said:
I have a sneaking suspicion John Carter could be replacing Narnia over in the Studios (no sources, just speculaiton). If they open it back up January/February for the March release, could drum up some buzz. Most of the actual shoot should be done, so they'd have some nice pieces/costumes to put on display...

I think it's interesting how despite most of the creative talent working on this is from Pixar, they're keeping the Disney brand name on it (Heaven forbid they put Pixar's name on a flop). Personally I'm really excited for this movie, especially after reading the first book. I'm midway through the second, and it's going to be interesting to see if/how they deal with "the black men of mars."
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It's not a Pixar film.

The director is Andrew Stanton, who directed for Pixar, but that's it.

Design, FX, production--all independent of Pixar. Pixar is not rendering one pixel for this film.

Word is, they screened it at Pixar, and got some feedback for reshoots and retooling, etc.

So--yeah, the film has the benefit of Pixar's "brain trust" as a bunch of people to bounce things off of, but basically this is an independent, Disney effort.

In the same vein, Brad Bird, who did The Incredibles, is directing the new Tom Cruise Mission Impossible film. Is that a Pixar film? Nope.
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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I expect at least one of these movies to take up residence in the Prince Caspian building at DHS in a similar type of attraction. Beyond that, I think we'd have to see that they're successful first.
 

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