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Speculation: John Carter, Oz, Lone Ranger?
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Magenta Panther
Well-Known Member
Interestingly, at one point Walt himself had plans to make an Oz movie. It was going to be called "The Rainbow Road to Oz", and the project was actually hyped on the old "Disneyland" show:
http://marciodisneyarchives.blogspot.com/2010/10/rainbow-road-to-oz.html
But Walt dropped it when he couldn't get a script for it he liked. Smart move, IMO; he would have had to compete with the 1939 original in terms of quality and appeal, and that would have been a tough task even for Walt. (Still, since we're talking about Walt, a Disney version of Oz might even have surpassed the MGM version. We'll never know..)
Anyway, I think that, since Disney is making a prequel to Oz, that an Oz attraction would be nice, BUT...again, the gold standard is the MGM film. And so I think that people would want to see, not just Dorothy, but Judy Garland as Dorothy, featured in any Oz attraction.
Perhaps having the Lone Ranger in Frontierland would be a better idea. The Lone Ranger never got a truly upscale big-screen treatment, as did Oz, so the new Disney version could become the definitive version and thus, any attraction based on it could be easily accepted by the public.
http://marciodisneyarchives.blogspot.com/2010/10/rainbow-road-to-oz.html
But Walt dropped it when he couldn't get a script for it he liked. Smart move, IMO; he would have had to compete with the 1939 original in terms of quality and appeal, and that would have been a tough task even for Walt. (Still, since we're talking about Walt, a Disney version of Oz might even have surpassed the MGM version. We'll never know..)
Anyway, I think that, since Disney is making a prequel to Oz, that an Oz attraction would be nice, BUT...again, the gold standard is the MGM film. And so I think that people would want to see, not just Dorothy, but Judy Garland as Dorothy, featured in any Oz attraction.
Perhaps having the Lone Ranger in Frontierland would be a better idea. The Lone Ranger never got a truly upscale big-screen treatment, as did Oz, so the new Disney version could become the definitive version and thus, any attraction based on it could be easily accepted by the public.
imagineer boy
Well-Known Member
Here's an idea, how about no more forced contrived movie tie-ins and original stuff for once?
HM GhostHostess
Well-Known Member
I wholeheartedly agree with you.
invader
Well-Known Member
Yeah, I'm actually liking this idea more and more.
skellington22
New Member
Muppets studio was supposed to happen... but when Henson died they put a stop on the project and just put up muppets 3d ... but perhaps with the new movie they could expand
Florida_is_hot
Well-Known Member
Really did you see the trailer for John Carter?
I looks like a flop to me.
Oz....... a 75 year old musical?
Lone Ranger when was the last time any Western was a commercial success?
But if by chance they are good.
Remove the India Jones Stunt Spectacle for the Lone Ranger.
John Carter put in Tomorrow Land...... Remove the Stitch attraction.
Oz place on a Stage maybe replace Beauty and the Beast at DHS.
I looks like a flop to me.
Oz....... a 75 year old musical?
Lone Ranger when was the last time any Western was a commercial success?
But if by chance they are good.
Remove the India Jones Stunt Spectacle for the Lone Ranger.
John Carter put in Tomorrow Land...... Remove the Stitch attraction.
Oz place on a Stage maybe replace Beauty and the Beast at DHS.
invader
Well-Known Member
Why replace when they could add on? DHS is in dire need of some attractions, and I sure don't see Lone Ranger taking over Indy.
NemoRocks78
Seized
Going by what we saw at the D23 Expo, John Carter's probably not going to be so hot. But we'll wait and see on that one. I also can't imagine much coming out of Oz, either. The Lone Ranger is a good possibility if it's good and makes some money.
I'd personally like to see them get that TRON ride built before anything else...
I'd personally like to see them get that TRON ride built before anything else...
skellington22
New Member
I agree the last original thing Disney has done was Philarmagic .... and everyone I know loves that attraction.... granted its a take on the old Mickey's Revue attraction.. but that was original so... ... I would like to see more originality out of Disney... Like Fantasmic, Like Rock n Roller Coaster and Philarmagic
Florida_is_hot
Well-Known Member
Everybody has there own taste.
I seen the trailer I hated it.
Just ideas.... I know Disney is cheap, really has not given us much in years.
Toy Story Mania replaced a building "not really an added addition"
The Fantasyland expansion know not to much about it.
Star Tours cosmetic additions same similar ride a replacement movie and R2D2
Avatar ..... new to me have not read details yet, mostly rumors?
When has anything last been added that did not replace something.
The attractions I listed need to be refreshed I have not been to WDW in years but Indiana Jones Attraction will still be the same.
I seen the trailer I hated it.
Just ideas.... I know Disney is cheap, really has not given us much in years.
Toy Story Mania replaced a building "not really an added addition"
The Fantasyland expansion know not to much about it.
Star Tours cosmetic additions same similar ride a replacement movie and R2D2
Avatar ..... new to me have not read details yet, mostly rumors?
When has anything last been added that did not replace something.
The attractions I listed need to be refreshed I have not been to WDW in years but Indiana Jones Attraction will still be the same.
Florida_is_hot
Well-Known Member
Yes .... they must of did that on purpose.
The original story was from a time when people believed Aliens could be living on Mars. Today we know Mars is dead (maybe a micro or two lives ) but know Aliens.
The original story was from a time when people believed Aliens could be living on Mars. Today we know Mars is dead (maybe a micro or two lives ) but know Aliens.
jmick71
Member
you cant even consider Philarmagic original because the majority of it is the 6 scenes from the disney movies.
if you consider this original, you would have to consider SGE, TSMM, Laugh Floor, as well as many others to be original,
I think the most "original" ride (no movie tie in) that disney has added to a park, in recent years, is Expedition Everest, and it blows most of the other recent disney rides out of the water.
RandySavage
Well-Known Member
What experience tells us is that Disney won't risk the major capital in greenlight development on an attraction until the underlying franchise has proven itself as a big money-maker. So (IMO) while there could be some imagineers doing conceptual renderings for any thing at any time, there won't be serious development on John Carter, Lone Ranger or Oz rides until two things happen:
1. The initial film is a box office smash, greenlighting sequels.
2. Merchandise/DVDs move well.
For example, Cars, Toy Story & PotC all qualify... and all get attractions (in the case of PotC it was serious development of a PotC land for HKDL which was axed & current work on a film-based PotC for Shanghai which looks to be a go).
Star Wars & Avatar qualify, so the rights are purchased and they get funding.
So it is far too early to know whether John Carter, Ranger & Oz films will reach the qualifications. Disney would certainly love a new home grown franchise as successful as Pirates, Potter, LotR, Star Wars, Spiderman, etc. They thought they had one with Tron - future uncertain.
Magenta Panther
Well-Known Member
LOL! Totally agree! :sohappy:
Magenta Panther
Well-Known Member
No offense, but why? They've got their own little nook in DHS. They're well-represented in the park already. I know some here are in favor of that Muppet parody of the Great Movie Ride, but IMO, nuts to that. Who needs a parody of a Disney ride in a Disney park? That sounds as crass and tasteless as those dumb jokes about the Hall of Presidents Iago used to make when the Tiki Room was "Under New Management".
What DHS needs, IMO, is an original ride, or maybe one that's actually based on a classic Disney property, such as Mickey Mouse or Pinocchio. Some of us here have talked about a Mickey Mouse dark ride, perhaps based on Epic Mickey. At the very least, it'd be a great way to reintroduce Oswald to the general public. (Now THERE'S a character who needs and deserves some exposure. He's in more need of a comeback than the Muppets IMO).
FigmentJedi
Well-Known Member
It's not really a parody of Great Movie Ride, more like a goofy version of how movies are made using Muppet takes on Frankenstein and Peter Pan alongside Pigs in Space. In other words, more like Backlot Tour but with that Muppet sense of humor.No offense, but why? They've got their own little nook in DHS. They're well-represented in the park already. I know some here are in favor of that Muppet parody of the Great Movie Ride, but IMO, nuts to that. Who needs a parody of a Disney ride in a Disney park? That sounds as crass and tasteless as those dumb jokes about the Hall of Presidents Iago used to make when the Tiki Room was "Under New Management".
jjharvpro
Active Member
Whoever said that is wrong! Disney is all about story (at least story was the root of Disney movies & parks).
I think that less movies = better for the company bc they'll have more time for creating a quality story and/or they won't be "distracted" by a bunch of smaller crappy movies (Mars Needs Moms)
jjharvpro
Active Member
True Grit w/ Jeff Bridges