South Park takes on scooters at Disney :P

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psukardi

psukardi

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janoimagine said:
People think you are cruel or inensitive on these boards when you have a negative opinion on those who are obese or run you down with a scooter ... I understand you get the person who is overweight because of a hormonal imbalance or thyroid condition or whatever, but in my experience 97% of those people who are over weight are simply because they are to lazy to do anything about it, and sorry people but those are the ones you should be upset with because they are the ones that have amplified the stereotype.
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It's easier for those people to play the victim and say "Woe is me , you don't know how hard it is to eat so much and live such a poor life style" instead of waddling to the mirror, throwing on their mu-mu and realizing they should be taking the steps instead of the elevator when going up one flight of stairs....
 
Magenta Panther

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psukardi said:
It's easier for those people to play the victim and say "Woe is me , you don't know how hard it is to eat so much and live such a poor life style" instead of waddling to the mirror, throwing on their mu-mu and realizing they should be taking the steps instead of the elevator when going up one flight of stairs....
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I admire your courage. THANK YOU for being so honest. And now I'm going to top you. You're griping about fat people and scooters, but me...I'M going to rip kids and strollers a new one!

I am SICK TO DEATH OF #@!%%1! STROLLERS AT WDW!!!! Think about it. The Imagineers created the parks to evoke certain emotions, settings, memories and magical experiences. All that beautiful, carefully designed landscaping. Imagine it for a minute...and then imagine every square foot of it covered up with STROLLERS!!!

I mean, look at the Haunted Mansion. It's supposed to be scary. Well, how scary can it really be with 3,142 strollers parked in front of it???? The last time I visited the World, I stood in front of the Mansion and shook my head in disgust at all of the $#%@ strollers in front of it. It looked like a Haunted Day Care. And I hated it!

I've seen pictures of Disneyland circa 1950's and 60's. And the thing that strikes me is...there is hardly a stroller in sight. HOWEVER did parents survive in DL without them? Kids must have been made of tougher stuff back then, or maybe parents demanded more of their offspring. "Oh, you're tired, Tommy? How old are you again? Oh, six? Well, I think you're a little old to want Mommy to carry you, aren't you? Man up!" But TODAY, all a kid has to do is whine "Mommy, pick me uuuuuppppp" and Mommy, who is sick of carrying her kid around, and Daddy, ditto, breaks out the freaking STROLLER and proceeds to bump into people and run over people's toes with it. And it SUCKS.

Parents, a Disney park is NOT an uber-expensive daycare, okay? It is a THEME park, and none of the lands in it is themed "Stroller". So do us all a favor and leave the freaking strollers at HOME. Strollers are four-wheeled eyesores, they are a threat to foot health (and god knows you need healthy feet at WDW), so if your kid gets tired, JUST SIT DOWN AND REST for a minute and then go on. And now I'm done. Thank you for your kind attention.
 
wilkeliza

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The Empress Lilly said:
But is it a personal choice?

I think it is largely owing to societal choices, in particular the reluctancy of America's electorate to protect itself from rubbish food. I can not think of another developed country with worse food - unhealthy, fat, gross. The problem is not that people eat too much unhealthy food, but that their food is too unhealthy. You have to be rich, well educated, or very determined to find decent food in America.

If I holiday in America, I gain a kilo a week. If I holiday in France, I drop a kilo a week. :confused:

There are no scooters in Disneyland Paris.


(Yes, sorry, the subject is South Park. But what would teh interwebs be without threads derailing into political rants!)
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I was going to stay out of it until someone brought up this completely wrong opinnion that is often presented as fact.

My mom raised 3 children as a single mother on $20,000 a year and none of us were grossly over weight. The only one of my siblings that had a weight issue was my middle brother and we discovered later it was due to a hormone imbalance that also caused his depression. We were off and on food stamps but we had a mother who cared about our well being so instead of buying instant meals or taking us for fast food all the time we ate meals that we helped her prepare with fresh fruits and vegetables. I don't like to over generalize but most families that play the poor card just use it as an excuse. No family that is seriously poor can afford to eat Little Debbies all the time and eat out at McDonalds every night but not afford to cook healthy food. Also for people who complain about the time factor it takes me 30 minutes to make my well balanced meals as an adult now and it takes about the same exact time to go to a fast food place. Everyone has their excuses but outside of a true diagnosed medical condition I believe there are no good ones for eating unhealthy. If you want to be overweight fine by me but don't blame anyone else or the economy or the offerings in America, it was your own choices that got you that way.
 
ChrisFL

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The Empress Lilly said:
OMG...!

South Park doesn't even feel the need to embellish the situation. All they need for their biting satire is to accurately portray reality. :lookarou

Turkey-leg gnawing morbidly obese people with Disney as their escapism. Disney has positioned itself so low on the cultural ladder that I'm too embarrassed to admit in public that I have Disney parks for a hobby.
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post of the year
 
ChrisFL

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The Empress Lilly said:
You have to be rich, well educated, or very determined to find decent food in America.

If I holiday in America, I gain a kilo a week. If I holiday in France, I drop a kilo a week. :confused:
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This is 100% true. Food in the U.S. is full of corn, sugar, preservatives, sugar substitutes that cause cancer, etc. etc. I can go overseas and eat just as much food and the same kinds of foods and lose weight...plus it often TASTES a lot better.

Mix that with city plans that are based entirely on the automobile and not pedestrian friendly, and the removing of physical education programs and recess from schools...what do you expect to happen in the end?

Therefore, for a while I could believe it was a personal choice, I'm starting to wonder if there is a lot more involved.
 
psukardi

psukardi

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ChrisFL said:
This is 100% true. Food in the U.S. is full of corn, sugar, preservatives, sugar substitutes that cause cancer, etc. etc. I can go overseas and eat just as much food and the same kinds of foods and lose weight...plus it often TASTES a lot better.

Mix that with city plans that are based entirely on the automobile and not pedestrian friendly, and the removing of physical education programs and recess from schools...what do you expect to happen in the end?

Therefore, for a while I could believe it was a personal choice, I'm starting to wonder if there is a lot more involved.
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That's right - blame it on the government, or the food industry or the urban planners....everyone but the person eating
 
janoimagine

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psukardi said:
That's right - blame it on the government, or the food industry or the urban planners....everyone but the person eating
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ChrisFL said:
60%+ people are overweight in the U.S....you think all of them are just "being lazy"?
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Honestly Guys ... its about 50/50 ... The real culprit's in the US are GMO foods and when combined with a lack of exercise its the perfect storm for flab. It's part govenment fault and part individual. What is needed is a massive change in the food industry combined with a massive increase in physical exercise. Leave the car keys, start walking, get your off the couch. Stop eating out so much, avoid McDonalds, Sonic and Taco Bell ... and stop eating anything that uses the modified form of wheat our brilliant government introduced in the 70's, and instead buy breads that contains sprouted wheat.

The whole 'Whole Grains' campaign that is all the craze is just a disaster of expanding waist lines waiting to happen.
 
psukardi

psukardi

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ChrisFL said:
60%+ people are overweight in the U.S....you think all of them are just "being lazy"?
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Yea, a lot of them live hand to mouth from the government. Sitting around , getting welfare and food stamps and using their EBT cards to buy menthols. They are THAT lazy.
 
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Kuhio

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I'd noticed obese guests at WDW before, but I never realized the full extent of the situation -- or the degree to which it's concentrated at the WDW parks -- until very recently.

I just returned from a series of trips where I visited 12 theme and water parks in multiple states over the last three weeks or so. And, with the benefit of being able to compare conditions at different parks in a very short period of time, it was obvious just how many more morbidly obese guests there are at the WDW parks than at other parks, even DL/DCA.

In general, theme parks in Florida have a greater number of obese guests than, say, their counterparts in Southern California, but even compared to other central Florida parks, WDW clearly takes the cake (pun somewhat intended). Even a relatively unobservant visitor would be able to discern that WDW attracts obese guests at a substantially higher rate than other parks in the same geographic market, or Disney parks elsewhere in the world. (WDW also seems to draw a higher percentage of children who really shouldn't be pushed around in strollers because they're at least three or four years past the appropriate age for doing so.)

As to why WDW in particular draws these guests in such disproportionate numbers... I'd guess the reasons are many and interrelated, and probably beyond the scope of a message board discussion...
 
The Empress Lilly

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Trotsky said:
Still amazed this thread hasn't been locked :). Guessing it's because no one has said "ban Fat People" - which is NOT something I'm suggesting... just something I really expected to see. I'm really glad I HAVE NOT seen that. Americans seem to want to ban everything :) (perfume wearers, smokers, fat people, skinny people, tatooed people, males, females, children (unless they are quiet), strollers, scooters, the Republican Party, the Democratic Party, cats, dogs, rich people, poor people.... EVERYTHING).
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That is nonsense! I would never want to ban skinny people, males, females, children, the Democratic Party, or cats and dogs. :D
 
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So....back to South Park.

Did anyone see the episode where the kids visit a well-themed Mexican restaurant called "Casa Bonita"? Is it just me, or did that seem very similar to the Mexican pavillion at Epcot? (Minus the water slides, of course). But the indoor theme, boat ride, etc?
 
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