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Shanghai Disneyland from a first timers view

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
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Well. A few people have asked what did we think after 5 nights at Toy Story Hotel and 3 park days.

In short I’m impressed.

I imagined it to be of the Iger era. Big. Flashy. Shiny. State of the art. And it was. But in a good way.

What hit me the most from a design view was the size. Everything is huge and built for slick operation. The massive tree lined plaza with proper metal railing switchbacks that go forever for security. The distance from security to the turnstiles. The distance from turnstiles to the false train station entrance. The walkways wider than Epcots. The size of the gardens and lakes that replaced the hub. The long walking along tree and bush lined paths between lands and sometimes between attractions. The size of the lake in Treasure Cove. Everything is on a massive scale. Including the castle. I’m still undecided on the design, and think it looks better from behind, but the detail on it is astounding. Then inside there’s the windowed spiral internal staircase for a walkthrough. And another staircase up to a massive, lavish restaurant. And shops on the ground floor. And a boat ride that skirts the basement.

Ops wise it was impressive. Very. The sheer people moving skills of the cast and park design was amazing, and we went during a “quieter” period. I’ve never seen so many cast in a theme park. Emporium has 2 separate rooms each with 10 cash register desks. No in store queuing that gets in the way. Guest flow design is amazing. A note about cleanliness; cultural differences have been documented and we saw a handful of things a westerner would go huh? about, but the park, restaurants, attractions, everywhere was absolutely spotless. Spotless. The whole resort looked like it only opened last week. Everything was freshly painted. Ride vehicles weren’t scuffed. Queues were pristine. The sweepers were even picking up leaves when there was no litter. A real eye opener.

The attractions… whilst there’s not a huge amount given the size of the park they ranged from cute (Pooh’s building was elaborate but housed a clone of Hong Kong that’s a clone of Florida) to astounding. Pirates lived up to the hype and then some. Zootopia was surprisingly long. Peter Pan is the classic ride we all know on steroids. It was fun to ride the original Tron. Tomorrowland is a genius multi level design that the more you walk around the more you appreciate it. Adventure Isle is begging to be explored (with its impressive towering mountain range with waterfalls). Restaurants are abundant and amazingly themed. And for a European everything was so cheap.

Toy Story Hotel… fantastic. Chosen for its cost we found it’s hardly a “value” resort. Very modern, well themed but not tacky. A bigger room than expected and again the cast, from drop off to reception, concierge to housekeeping and restaurant were amazing. Friendly. Couldn’t help enough. We had a few language hiccups but definitely no language barriers.

All in all we came away very impressed. Budget decisions can be found if you look, but the overall design is mind blowing. Cast and ops are ironically how Disney should be. It’s a familiar but unfamiliar castle park. I recommend anyone wanting an adventure and to push their comfort zone seriously considers it.
 

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Vegas Disney Fan

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Sounds like a good time, interesting to hear the language barrier wasn’t as bad as you feared, that’s been our biggest concern with visiting Hong Kong, Tokyo, or Shanghai… we know enough French and Spanish to stumble through a conversation but don’t understand one word of Mandorin or Japanese.

The apps have gotten better but it’s still a concern for us. Good to know there’s a few people we’ll be able to communicate with.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
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Sounds like a good time, interesting to hear the language barrier wasn’t as bad as you feared, that’s been our biggest concern with visiting Hong Kong, Tokyo, or Shanghai… we know enough French and Spanish to stumble through a conversation but don’t understand one word of Mandorin or Japanese.

The apps have gotten better but it’s still a concern for us. Good to know there’s a few people we’ll be able to communicate with.
Hong Kong Disneyland in particular is no problem for English speakers. We didn’t have any issue in the wider city tourist areas either. Shanghai was slightly harder in places but it didn’t cause any issues, more it just occasionally took a little longer to be understood if saying something not familiar. But it’s certainly not sign language and pointing.

In both places (parks and cities) everything is sign posted in English and Mandarin/Cantonese. Don’t let it put you off. It’s not a problem. Obviously we can’t talk for Tokyo. Yet!
 

SplashJacket

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For the language barriers,

From most to least:
TDL, SHDL, HKDL

And we were easily most impressed with SHDL.
From most impressed to least impressed:
SHDL, TDL, HKDL

Overall, we liked from most to least
TDL, SHDL, HKDL

But disclaimer with Tokyo, we went in 2018 and felt the lack of mindblowing headliner attractions (Rise, SHDL Potc, etc) limited its ceiling, but that may largely be remedied by BatB and Fantasy Springs.
 

Centauri Space Station

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Sounds like you had fun. I haven’t been yet but just am curious what you found impressive about tomorrowland? I know it has a buzz clone, TRON, and jet packs which is a lot like Astro orbitor. What exactly made it have the wow factor?
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
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Sounds like you had fun. I haven’t been yet but just am curious what you found impressive about tomorrowland? I know it has a buzz clone, TRON, and jet packs which is a lot like Astro orbitor. What exactly made it have the wow factor?
On paper it’s cheap; a big box show building and a very long, 2 floor curved second box for everything else. Add in the theming, the multi level walkways and ramps and stairs, fountains, theming and lighting and it works very well. Even more so at night. It only works from one side and acts like a berm design mind but it’s a bit of a genius of design the more you look.
 

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denyuntilcaught

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Sounds like a good time, interesting to hear the language barrier wasn’t as bad as you feared, that’s been our biggest concern with visiting Hong Kong, Tokyo, or Shanghai… we know enough French and Spanish to stumble through a conversation but don’t understand one word of Mandorin or Japanese.

The apps have gotten better but it’s still a concern for us. Good to know there’s a few people we’ll be able to communicate with.
Can't speak for Hong Kong or Shanghai as others have, but Tokyo was not a challenge whatsoever for an English speaker's perspective, IMO.

Fab perspective and report, Marni!
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
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Love shanghai! So glad you got to experience it. For me, the park also felt so modern compared to other castle parks. Especially with Illuminate. High energy, lots of bold colors at night. So different, yet magical.
Indeed. It’s as I expected; bright, blingy, in your face. Modern. Fast paced. Very Iger. But it works - especially if you don’t compare to other MKs. It’s the MK but not as you know it. And that’s not a bad thing.

Illuminate like you say is a perfect example. It’s the show LED was invented for. Makes great use of the gardens for not just viewing but extending the show effects. And very impressive. And video coming soon 😁😁
 
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Supersnow84

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I really like that the two Chinese parks offer completely different experiences

I also appreciate that they proverbially swung for the fences with Shanghai. There is so much different in it parks of if don’t even feel like a castle park

But as someone who likes the “Disneylands” (Disneyland, Parc Disneyland, Hong Kong) more than the “magic kingdoms” (magic kingdom, Tokyo Disneyland and Shanghai) I appreciate it’s counterbalanced by Hong Kong trying to go for the old school “small town charm”

I also appreciate the park is unabashedly Chinese and looks like it was designed for them specifically

It strikes a good balance
 

cjkeating

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But as someone who likes the “Disneylands” (Disneyland, Parc Disneyland, Hong Kong) more than the “magic kingdoms” (magic kingdom, Tokyo Disneyland and Shanghai) I appreciate it’s counterbalanced by Hong Kong trying to go for the old school “small town charm”
I'd never thought about the splitting of the castle parks into sub-sections of Disneylands and Magic Kingdoms but having visited 5 of the 6 this is actually a really good description.
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Original Poster
I really like that the two Chinese parks offer completely different experiences

I also appreciate that they proverbially swung for the fences with Shanghai. There is so much different in it parks of if don’t even feel like a castle park

But as someone who likes the “Disneylands” (Disneyland, Parc Disneyland, Hong Kong) more than the “magic kingdoms” (magic kingdom, Tokyo Disneyland and Shanghai) I appreciate it’s counterbalanced by Hong Kong trying to go for the old school “small town charm”

I also appreciate the park is unabashedly Chinese and looks like it was designed for them specifically

It strikes a good balance
Well put. Especially the first paragraph 👏🏻
 

Animaniac93-98

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Paris is far more intimate than MK/TDL/SDL. It doesn’t have wide concrete pathways and prism shaped plazas. It’s a lot more quaint and its lands being individually bermed adds to the intimacy

It leans farm more Disneyland/hong Kong in my eyes

That's interesting you say that because Paris is larger than either American Magic Kingdom and borrows a lot from Magic Kingdom's Main Street.
 

Supersnow84

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That's interesting you say that because Paris is larger than either American Magic Kingdom and borrows a lot from Magic Kingdom's Main Street.
Size has arguably limited to do with intimacy. Based on collective size of showbuildings, guest pathways, landscaping and cast areas Hong Kong is actually larger than Shanghai though it doesn’t feel that way

But to me only Tokyo and Shanghai feel like they have noticeably different main streets, I know that the remaining 4 have large differences in their sense of place but I feel like they are more or less similar

It’s the rest of Paris
 

PiratesMansion

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Sounds like a good time, interesting to hear the language barrier wasn’t as bad as you feared, that’s been our biggest concern with visiting Hong Kong, Tokyo, or Shanghai… we know enough French and Spanish to stumble through a conversation but don’t understand one word of Mandorin or Japanese.

The apps have gotten better but it’s still a concern for us. Good to know there’s a few people we’ll be able to communicate with.
Don't be worried about the language barrier, it's basically a non-issue. I know less than ten words of Japanese, Mandarin, or Cantonese and managed to get by just fine in each instance. If you can navigate a Disney theme park in one country, you can pretty much navigate it in any other-anything that is unique to those parks can generally be found by perusing their apps and websites, or failing that, asking people that have been. You can also ease into it by starting in Hong Kong, which was a British colony and has more English language knowledge than the other areas, and the bulk of the attractions there are in English anyway, before moving to other areas.

Attraction storytelling is pretty visual and uncomplicated. The only time I've EVER felt a bit like I was missing information was in the talky preshow for the Shanghai Pirates show before you go into the main theater. Otherwise, a non-issue.

As long as you can point to a menu item and hold up on your fingers how many people are in your party, you're prepared for 90% of cast member interactions in Asia.

There will be an English-speaking member of staff available at Guest Relations for true emergencies. There were also English-speaking staff on hand at Toy Story Hotel to handle check-in during my visit (chances are too that if you're staying off property and find a western hotel brand, even more so if you find one targeting business travelers, they'll be more likely to have an English-speaking person on staff. This also works for the on-the-monorail-line Hilton & Sheraton at TDR. The person who checked us in at the Shinjuku Hyatt where we stayed in Tokyo prior to our TDR visit had clearly spent an extensive amount of time in an English-speaking country, his English was *impeccable*).

For non-Mainland China, Google Translate and widespread Google Maps usage is a huge game changer compared to when I first went to Asia in 2010. Being able to translate signs in an image is amazing tech. BUT you probably won't even need such tech for major cities, as signage for major tourist attractions and transit is consistently bilingual in urban areas and really, for anywhere you're likely to go as a first-time Asia visitor.

It's difficult to envision until you go and experience for yourself, but really and truly, it's all much much easier than you're expecting.
 
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