Security at Bag Checks moving to full Metal Detector use

[Emmanuel]

I was at Disneyland yesterday and noticed that security at the bag checks are beginning to send everyone (over the age of 14) to the metal detectors instead of doing the "random selection". This was only observed at some of the bag check lines while others was still random selection. This happened late afternoon. Yesterday morning it was still random selection.

 

[Phroobar]

Magic Mountain sends everyone though metal detectors for many years. Of course, looking at the crowd it ain't their first rodeo.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

Magic Mountain sends everyone though metal detectors for many years. Of course, looking at the crowd it ain't their first rodeo.

Yeah, they were doing that before 9/11! That's what happens when you have knife fights and gang wars in your park! I always keep on my toes when I'm at that park.

 

[Phroobar]

Yeah, they were doing that before 9/11! That's what happens when you have knife fights and gang wars in your park! I always keep on my toes when I'm at that park.

There isn't many white or Asian families with kids there like at Disneyland. It is mostly young Hispanic families and unescorted teenagers of all races. The team members running the place are mostly middle class white teenagers from Santa Clarita / Velencia.

 

[Stevek]

I was at Disneyland yesterday and noticed that security at the bag checks are beginning to send everyone (over the age of 14) to the metal detectors instead of doing the "random selection". This was only observed at some of the bag check lines while others was still random selection. This happened late afternoon. Yesterday morning it was still random selection.

We noticed the random thing around 10:30am yesterday morning as well. There was a suit there basically directing some folks to the metal detectors while others didn't have to go through. He then left and nobody was going through the detectors.

 

[FerretAfros]

I've resigned to accept that these sorts of security checks are going to be standard from now on. But would it really hurt DLR to acknowledge it and build some permanent-looking structures for it? All of their stuff has been in very temporary-looking tents for the last 15 years, while WDW built rather charming permanent shade structures at each of their parks in the mid-00's. I wonder what will be the straw that breaks DLR's back and forces them to build something a little heftier (and with greater capacity)

Yeah, they were doing that before 9/11! That's what happens when you have knife fights and gang wars in your park! I always keep on my toes when I'm at that park.

Right, because there's never been a knife fight or gun war at Disneyland...

On March 7, 1981 a guest was fatally stabbed by another guest in Tomorrowland after an altercation that involved someone allegedly making advances on someone else's girlfriend:
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-17/local/me-21335_1_emergency-room

On March 8, 1987 a guest was shot by another guest in the parking lot during a "brawl" among alleged rival gang members:
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-03-08/local/me-13418_1_anaheim-police

 

[TP2000]

I've resigned to accept that these sorts of security checks are going to be standard from now on. But would it really hurt DLR to acknowledge it and build some permanent-looking structures for it? All of their stuff has been in very temporary-looking tents for the last 15 years, while WDW built rather charming permanent shade structures at each of their parks in the mid-00's. I wonder what will be the straw that breaks DLR's back and forces them to build something a little heftier (and with greater capacity)

Yup. But it's only been 15 years, and TDA isn't really sure if this Disneyland thing is going to take off with the American public. You can't expect them to invest in permanent facilities and infrastructure until they know that this Anaheim park is going to stick around for awhile.

Example #74 of TDA's Infrastructure Strategy: The Parking situation since 2005.

 

[GiveMeTheMusic]

I've resigned to accept that these sorts of security checks are going to be standard from now on. But would it really hurt DLR to acknowledge it and build some permanent-looking structures for it? All of their stuff has been in very temporary-looking tents for the last 15 years, while WDW built rather charming permanent shade structures at each of their parks in the mid-00's. I wonder what will be the straw that breaks DLR's back and forces them to build something a little heftier (and with greater capacity)


Right, because there's never been a knife fight or gun war at Disneyland...

On March 7, 1981 a guest was fatally stabbed by another guest in Tomorrowland after an altercation that involved someone allegedly making advances on someone else's girlfriend:
http://articles.latimes.com/1986-07-17/local/me-21335_1_emergency-room

On March 8, 1987 a guest was shot by another guest in the parking lot during a "brawl" among alleged rival gang members:
http://articles.latimes.com/1987-03-08/local/me-13418_1_anaheim-police

Two events in the 80s doesn't add up to the multiple incidents that have happened at SFMM over the years. It's a trashy, ill-maintained park that you can get into for practically pennies. I still go every couple years to ride the coasters, but let's not pretend it's some super classy joint.

 

[Rich T]

Two events in the 80s doesn't add up to the multiple incidents that have happened at SFMM over the years. It's a trashy, ill-maintained park that you can get into for practically pennies. I still go every couple years to ride the coasters, but let's not pretend it's some super classy joint.

Seriously. Two events compared to Magic Mountain's history of incidents? LOL. Even ignoring the guest problems, the only reason I'd ever pay money to visit a Six Flags park would be if I had an urge to look at tacky advertising all day or pick up a Discover Card application.

 

[5thGenTexan]

I've resigned to accept that these sorts of security checks are going to be standard from now on. But would it really hurt DLR to acknowledge it and build some permanent-looking structures for it? All of their stuff has been in very temporary-looking tents for the last 15 years, while WDW built rather charming permanent shade structures at each of their parks in the mid-00's. I wonder what will be the straw that breaks DLR's back and forces them to build something a little heftier (and with greater capacity)

So the white tent and green fabric barriers has been the "security" for that long?

I would have thought Disneyland would have had something more organized. I was really surprised.

Frustration soon set in after the security when trying to get through the main gates. I hate to use the term, but "old people" fumbling with the scanner and looking at tickets through the right spot in their bifocals is probably not the most efficient group. I am sure it will hurt someone's feelings, but they really slow the whole process down.

 

[Rich T]

So the white tent and green fabric barriers has been the "security" for that long?

I would have thought Disneyland would have had something more organized. I was really surprised.

Frustration soon set in after the security when trying to get through the main gates. I hate to use the term, but "old people" fumbling with the scanner and looking at tickets through the right spot in their bifocals is probably not the most efficient group. I am sure it will hurt someone's feelings, but they really slow the whole process down.

I'll take the generally charming, friendly "old" people at the turnstyles any day over a few seconds worth of efficiency. It's worth it to see them working at Disneyland. In fact, I wouldn't mind a post-retirement part-time gig at the DL turnstyles myself in a few years...

Totally agree about the tents, though. The resort needs themed, permanent security gates.

 

[Phroobar]

Totally agree about the tents, though. The resort needs themed, permanent security gates.

Even crappy Magic Mountain has themed, permanent security gates. I believe it had sixteen built in metal detectors.

 

[brb1006]

Even crappy Magic Mountain has themed, permanent security gates. I believe it had sixteen built in metal detectors.

I'm picturing Magic Kingdom at WDW's to gain a security gate like that but themed more to Main Street.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

There isn't many white or Asian families with kids there like at Disneyland. It is mostly young Hispanic families and unescorted teenagers of all races. The team members running the place are mostly middle class white teenagers from Santa Clarita / Velencia.

 

[Phroobar]

Two events in the 80s doesn't add up to the multiple incidents that have happened at SFMM over the years. It's a trashy, ill-maintained park that you can get into for practically pennies. I still go every couple years to ride the coasters, but let's not pretend it's some super classy joint.

I wouldn't say trashy. Ill-Mannered definitely. The place is actually kept very clean in recent years. About half the park has been rethemed or cleaned up recently. The Screampunk District, Roaring Rapids Camp and DC Universe areas look great as does the front of the park. Bugs Bunny World is really well themed. However other areas like Cyclone Bay and Asian stuff up by Ninja are falling apart. I hear the wooden coaster Apocalypse is going away and the Cyclone Bay is the next for refreshing.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Wait, Magic Mountain is the best theme park? What the heck am I doing going to Disneyland?

 

[5thGenTexan]

My local park.... Six Flags Over Texas (its the original, planned and built by Angus Wynn after visiting Disneyland).

Show admission ---> Go through metal detector ----> Bag check. All within in 5 or 6 feet.

 

[Phroobar]

Wait, Magic Mountain is the best theme park? What the heck am I doing going to Disneyland?

USA Today readers are never wrong.

 

[disney4life2008]

There isn't many white or Asian families with kids there like at Disneyland. It is mostlymilies and unescorted teenagers of all races. The team members running the place are mostly middle class white teenagers from Santa Clarita / Velencia.

This is a racist statement! I can recall more than a number of white and asian people who attack.

 

[Phroobar]

Does Six Flags over Texas have the same team member do the metal detector and then check your bags? It seems to take longer with only one person at teach machine.