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Replacement for Tomorrowland Speedway?

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MUTZIE77

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It kind of looks like it's held together with yellow caution tape
According to Martin, those are the cut marks where the torches would have chopped the track apart before they took a torch to the budget. I also believe Martin said that if would have been a full tear down and rebuild with the same layout. I still can't believe the money was allocated and the refurb underway when it was cut.
 

doctornick

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A few points to make without giving any major bombshells: any outdoor coaster or track would be required to shut down in the event of lightning or heavy rain within a certain radius if it were not covered.
So... isn't the Tron ride (assuming an exact clone) completely covered during the outside portions? Would that be enough protection for it to continue to run during the frequent Florida thunderstorms?
 

TiggerDad

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So... isn't the Tron ride (assuming an exact clone) completely covered during the outside portions? Would that be enough protection for it to continue to run during the frequent Florida thunderstorms?
Except for all the people a few pages back who were insisting the roof would get cut by the bean counters when the clone came to Florida. Those people will get wet.
 

teruterubouzu

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Regarding Tron Lightcycles, I am curious as to how Disney will deal with larger guests and disabled guests?



This picture from the prototype Vekoma Motorcycle Coaster show the restraint: you saddle the bike, press your chest against the right black pad and then pull the handles back. This cause the back rest to move down and you're good to go once its locked. At 6'3, 280 lbs, its a bit of a tight fit, but I was ok. Knowing the average WDW guest, I figure they will expand on the "TAV" cars present on the Shanghai Tron Lightcycles.

Two trains in Shanghai see their last car motorcycles replaced with standard seating and lap bar. Knowing the insane demand with guests requiring assistance or won't be able to get the back rest locked, will we see every train equipped with the TAV car at WDW? My friend shot this video of what the ride looks like from the TAV vehicle.

If the demand is there would it be a bad thing? It would have been nice if FoP also had an alternate experience for people who couldn't use the standard ride system. It's smart that they designed Tron to handle this.
 

insert name here

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Hopefully this will help with the waits at 7DMT, since it will no longer be the newest attraction. It's ridiculous that the D ticket coaster/dark ride is still getting E ticket wait times.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Hopefully this will help with the waits at 7DMT, since it will no longer be the newest attraction. It's ridiculous that the D ticket coaster/dark ride is still getting E ticket wait times.
I doubt Tron would help to reduce 7DMT waits that much. 7DMT accommodates younger riders, it has a lower height requirement and lower thrill level. Tron would be more likely to reduce waits for Space Mountain. Though if they replace the Speedway with it (as opposed to expanding on unused land), the lines for everything will either stay the same or increase. I'm actually not a huge fan of the Speedway, but it's still needed at the moment to help crowd levels (until they actually fully use up all the expansion plots that have never been built on).

I don't know the capacity for Tron, but low capacity is a factor in why 7DMT gets such long waits (besides appealing to kids and being a popular IP, though it is to be fair also a solid ride).
 

articos

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So you're saying they're getting rid of Space Mountain and will have an uncovered Tron cycle that will only run in lightning storms.

#ThanksShanghai
Yes. However, what I meant by that was they are actually both simultaneously ripping out and enlarging the Speedway, which will now encompass the entirety of the WDW property, all 40+ sq miles, if you can find the entrance, which will not be rebuilt. Cars will now be equipped with quantum flux engines which have not been invented yet. Only kids 7 years or younger will be allowed to drive, and they must stay at at least 97.4 mph, including when embarking and disembarking. One hand and one foot must stay outside the vehicle, but they will not tell you which hand or foot. Using the wrong hand or foot is grounds for ejection from the park, but you will be provided with a fresh churro. The churro will be ejected first, from there, it's up to you to find it. There WILL be a new underwater show scene in the new, demolished-enlarged Speedway, and you may get wet. It will also only run during lightning storms. Also, 20,000 Leagues will be reinstalled in place of the Castle, which will be moved to Nebraska.

Top secret. Don't tell anyone.
 
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solidyne

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You mean "secluded 100-yard-long smoking area"? Between the cigarette smoke and Speedway exhaust, that walkway back there might as well be renamed Emphysema Alley.
Too true. Don't forget the doggie relief area nearby! Nonetheless, I love it. I hold my breath long enough to get some good snapshots of SM.

Edit: Actually an official service animal area is farther up, but this is a favorite unofficial one if memory serves. (I have no problem with that, fwiw.)
 
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Rutt

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I'm sure there's plenty of people out there who love Stitch and Imagination too.
I'm sure there are as well. I bet there are even rides that you enjoy that others don't.

I'm not for or against TLSpeedway going or staying but it's far from unsalvageable and even further from unpopular. A few tweeks and it will be just fine again.
 
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Buried20KLeague

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As for the more "rotund" guests that frequent WDW... and for the females that tend to wear short clothing...

Each train in shanghai has a standard car in back. I could see that maybe doubling, or maybe cycle three trains and one is entirely standard cars. Something will have to be done.

Because lemme tell you... Ain't NO WAY every guest will be able ride the cycles. For a handful of reasons.
 

NeXuS1000

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For me the sounds and smell are part of the experience. They immediately take me back to my childhood and driving for the first time ever at MK. It would be a shame if my grandkids never get to share the same experience.
It would be a shame if they never had to inhale toxic fumes? Yeah, what a shame...

Listen, I understand the nostalgic aspects of it, but surely, we must look forward and understand and appreciate how much better non-fuel solutions are, in pretty much every way.
 

nickys

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Here's my attempts at those acronyms / clues @marni1971 gave us, fwiw.

**GE - 1. Someone's great escape, maybe Wreck-it Ralph
2. Akin to "get lost" great escape ;)

WRTR. - 1. Wreck-it Ralph's toon? ride
2. _ road to Rio
3. Wild _ Toad ride

I'm hungry 220 - I think this is the restaurant he mentioned a while back. He said it would blow us away, or "get the fan boys excited" or words to that effect. People have been saying "sugar rush" because of the diabetes link. Hmm, not sure, but if it to do with that, said diabetic would be in a HYPERglycaemic attack. Therefore some kind of space themed place? Personally I think the 220 is something else entirely!

WC. - World Carnivale (Brazil again)
- Wonderland Carousel (Alice)

WOW. - World of Wonder, World of Wonderland (Alice)

I give up! Not to mention that at least one of these will be something we haven't been discussing yet ;)

Edit: a quick search of connections between Disney and 220 yields .... nothing. But The Wave apparently has 220 seats ??? They better not touch that though, I love it as it is.
 
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TeriofTerror

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Here's my attempts at those acronyms / clues @marni1971 gave us, fwiw.

**GE - 1. Someone's great escape, maybe Wreck-it Ralph
2. Akin to "get lost" great escape ;)

WRTR. - 1. Wreck-it Ralph's toon? ride
2. _ road to Rio
3. Wild _ Toad ride

I'm hungry 220 - I think this is the restaurant he mentioned a while back. He said it would blow us away, or "get the fan boys excited" or words to that effect. People have been saying "sugar rush" because of the diabetes link. Hmm, not sure, but if it to do with that, said diabetic would be in a HYPERglycaemic attack. Therefore some kind of space themed place? Personally I think the 220 is something else entirely!

WC. - World Carnivale (Brazil again)
- Wonderland Carousel (Alice)

WOW. - World of Wonder, World of Wonderland (Alice)

I give up! Not to mention that at least one of these will be something we haven't been discussing yet ;)
Night #2 with little sleep (work has me particularly stressed). Here's where my sleep-deprived brain was last night:


If you look at it like a clock, pad one is close to where the 2 would be, and pad two is in sort of a 20 minute spot. 2:20?
Okay, yeah; I got nuthin'.
 

larryz

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Umm..have you ever ridden an old wooden roller coaster? Or what about the Vortex?lol.
Seriously, my kid has maxed out- due to my insisting- at 6 consecutive times on that one.
I swear that I was in pain for 3 days after!

Disney World's Space Mountain feels like a brand new coaster to me after the experiences of what we ride all summer.lol
Of course, the major difference between the coasters you mentioned and SM is that SM is mostly dark, so you can't see what's coming up next. With outdoor coasters, you can see what's coming and brace for it. In the dark, you can't and that's what leads so many to think it's a "rough" ride after hitting turns, dips and brakes without being able to brace for them.

That said, I don't ride Vortex until I'm ready to leave the park.
 
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