News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

[SpoiledBlueMilk]

Would be problematic on multiple levels, not the least of which would be adding further confusion to the bathrooms in Magic Kingdom. Would be fun for the uninformed to go there looking for the new ride only to learn it’s in another park.

Better a generic “Brothers Grimm” ride with a series of key scenes from Grimm-inspired tales vignetted to look like illuminated manuscript pages or something.

But that's not IP and that's not the Chapek way

 

[jaxonp]

Yep, and I like them both significantly more (been to all the theme parks, including TDL twice).

The ceilings might not be as high, but the actual immersion in a themed space is far superior. Hunny Hunt might even be 'simpler' but it's downright charming.

I've only been to HK twice so I was expecting to be blown away for as much praise as MM gets but I wasn't. To me, regardless of IP, screens or animatronics (the method in which so many seem to measure an attraction) Hunny Hunt is still better than just about every ride since and its the original trackless. It moves, its fun and it has all sorts of practical tricks. Not one word is spoken in English, but that doesn't matter... anyone can appreciate what's happening before their own eyes. I guess many might say the same about MM but I still haven't found it to be that great. I honestly think Rat and MM are about equal.. Both have issues but I think the fandom seems to like that MM is an original IP. IMO, pooh is worth the trip to Tokyo itself.. perhaps its why I've been there 10+ times now. That place is just a gem.

 

[Brer Panther]

I am hesitant to even call it a "ride".

It's not a ride. It's a simulator disguised as a ride.

 

[lazyboy97o]

It's not a ride. It's a simulator disguised as a ride.

A simulator is a type of ride.

 

[jaxonp]

It's not a ride. It's a simulator disguised as a ride.

It's literally the same tech as MMRR & RotR

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

I've only been to HK twice so I was expecting to be blown away for as much praise as MM gets but I wasn't. To me, regardless of IP, screens or animatronics (the method in which so many seem to measure an attraction) Hunny Hunt is still better than just about every ride since and its the original trackless. It moves, its fun and it has all sorts of practical tricks. Not one word is spoken in English, but that doesn't matter... anyone can appreciate what's happening before their own eyes. I guess many might say the same about MM but I still haven't found it to be that great. I honestly think Rat and MM are about equal.. Both have issues but I think the fandom seems to like that MM is an original IP. IMO, pooh is worth the trip to Tokyo itself.. perhaps its why I've been there 10+ times now. That place is just a gem.

That's totally fair. I think Hunny Hunt would be the easier one to pick apart for simply being on a lower scale, but each corner of every room is filled out and it's so, so charming. Made me smile in a way most rides don't (besides laugh factories like Splash Mountain and Mission Breakout).

I like Mystic Manor too (and would definitely take it over Ratatouille), but that's just me. Your points are all valid.

 

[Brer Panther]

A simulator is a type of ride.

Okay, a simulator disguised as a DARK RIDE.

A Ratatouille dark ride, dashing through the kitchen shrunken down to the size of a rat, had the potential to be fun. Instead, you're just parked in front of a screen for most of the ride. They could've just made the attraction a simulator and it wouldn't have a made a difference.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

A Ratatouille dark ride, dashing through the kitchen shrunken down to the size of a rat, had the potential to be fun. Instead, you're just parked in front of a screen for most of the ride. They could've just made the attraction a simulator and it wouldn't have a made a difference.

I don't care about the classification of the ride, but this remains my gripe with it: you've got this innovative, nifty vehicle that can do almost anything on the ground, and you spend way too long parked in place watching prolonged clips.

 

[Little Green Men]

When the highlights of Epcot are nerfed Test Track, nerfed Soarin', Frozen river journey featuring blank walls, and the most underwhelming trackless addition yet, it is quite sad.

As someone who loved Epcot circa 2000 (and really enjoyed the original Soarin'), I think its attractions are pretty terrible right now. Ratatouille doesn't move the needle, as far as I'm concerned, and that's not because of the French.

Current Test Track is a great EPCOT ride, Mission Space is too. The seas aquariums, LwtL and SSE are classics. Guardians is sure to be popular. The only thing that really needs help atp is Imagination.

I’ve never really felt strongly about them myself (they’re both solid and unique but somewhat low-key), but honestly, you’re right.

My Epcot highlight was always IllumiNations (and Soarin’ when it was actually good), so a lot is contingent on Harmonious at this stage. I also expect Guardians to be incredibly fun, even if its purpose and fit are lacking.

My impression of Ratatouille has been tainted for 7 years. Said it before, and I’ll say it again: would have happily taken a new pavilion with no ride over it.

World showcase has enough attraction less pavilions why add more?

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

Current Test Track is a great EPCOT ride, Mission Space is too. The seas aquariums, LwtL and SSE are classics. Guardians is sure to be popular. The only thing that really needs help atp is Imagination.

World showcase has enough attraction less pavilions why add more?

I'm glad you're happy with Epcot's attraction lineup. For me, I have some gripes with it:

• Test Track's update is aesthetically pleasing and fits Epcot perfectly, but they sapped it of personality.
• Soarin' Around The World is something I always wanted to see, but the awkward soundtrack, transitions, CGI, and distortion ruin it.
• Mission Space feels dated, even with the update.
• The aquarium feels dated, even if it's large.
• Fair enough on LwtL, SSE, and Guardians.
• I'll even throw Epcot some points for Gran Fiesta Tour (love me some Donald) and Frozen Ever After (concept might be forced, but Maelstrom was so campy).
• The American Adventure is impressive, but I don't feel like sitting through it every trip.
• Impressions de France is great. Good luck watching it right before the fireworks.
• Finally, Ratatouille. I'm excited to ride it again (it's been 7 years) but I remember it doing nothing for me.

The best part of World Showcase has always been exploring it: finding a new place to dine, interacting with different CMs, feeling the culture, etc. A new pavilion would mean more content and territory to explore, potentially bringing a new part of the world with it (e.g. Brazil or Colombia). I'm so disappointed there hasn't been a pavilion addition during my lifetime, and I'd happily trade Ratatouille for that.

 

[Little Green Men]

If I was still a kid this ride would bore the crap out of me and would be mad my parents wasted our time taking me on it. It is sooo boring and visually uninteresting. Just....screens. I would only ever do this ride if it was a walk on. Not worth a boarding pass or a lighting lane.

It’s not all screens it’s full of sets, and has practical effects as well

 

[Little Green Men]

I'm glad you're happy with Epcot's attraction lineup. For me, I have some gripes with it:

• Test Track's update is aesthetically pleasing and fits Epcot perfectly, but they sapped it of personality. Disagree, I think it’s a great experience and more whole
• Soarin' Around The World is something I always wanted to see, but the awkward soundtrack, transitions, CGI, and distortion ruin it. The transitions are better than bad cuts, agree about the distortion and CGI
• Mission Space feels dated, even with the update. I disagree highly
• The aquarium feels dated, even if it's large. I don’t see how
• Fair enough on LwtL, SSE, and Guardians.
• I'll even throw Epcot some points for Gran Fiesta Tour (love me some Donald) and Frozen Ever After (concept might be forced, but Maelstrom was so campy).
• The American Adventure is impressive, but I don't feel like sitting through it every trip.
• Impressions de France is great. Good luck watching it right before the fireworks.
• Finally, Ratatouille. I'm excited to ride it again (it's been 7 years) but I remember it doing nothing for me. Fair enough

The best part of World Showcase has always been exploring it: finding a new place to dine, interacting with different CMs, feeling the culture, etc. A new pavilion would mean more content and territory to explore, potentially bringing a new part of the world with it (e.g. Brazil or Colombia). I'm so disappointed there hasn't been a pavilion addition during my lifetime, and I'd happily trade Ratatouille for that.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

@GrandCanyonConcourse, you're totally entitled to disagree with me!

That said, Epcot remains my least favorite park in WDW (possibly my least favorite domestically), when it was my favorite 20 years ago, and pre-COVID attendance trends showed it losing ground amongst the WDW parks.

World Showcase remains the highlight, IMO, but that was the case even before Ratatouille.

Animal Kingdom is my favorite Disney park (I'd actually take it over DisneySea, which I know most would disagree with), and Ratatouille + Guardians is unlikely to change anything. Fingers crossed there's more to Epcot's overhaul still coming.

 

[Little Green Men]

@GrandCanyonConcourse, you're totally entitled to disagree with me!

That said, Epcot remains my least favorite park in WDW (possibly my least favorite domestically), when it was my favorite 20 years ago, and pre-COVID attendance trends showed it losing ground amongst the WDW parks.

World Showcase remains the highlight, IMO, but that was the case even before Ratatouille.

Animal Kingdom is my favorite Disney park (I'd actually take it over DisneySea, which I know most would disagree with), and Ratatouille + Guardians is unlikely to change anything. Fingers crossed there's more to Epcot's overhaul still coming.

That’s fine. DCA takes the crown for me still despite a few nice additions like cars land. Pixar pier and avengers campus really brought it down

 

[disneygeek90]

I don't care about the classification of the ride, but this remains my gripe with it: you've got this innovative, nifty vehicle that can do almost anything on the ground, and you spend way too long parked in place watching prolonged clips.

How different is it from Spiderman? That’s my biggest issue with that ride because I feel it’s overhyped (best ride at universal??) and that’s my complaint about it.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

That’s fine. DCA takes the crown for me still despite a few nice additions like cars land. Pixar pier and avengers campus really brought it down

I'm so torn on DCA. I think the park thematically peaked in 2015 (when Soarin' still soared over California, and Grizzly Peak took over Condor Flats), but I do find Mission Breakout to be ridiculously fun. I'd never even seen a Marvel movie before riding, but it immediately won me over.

Avengers Campus is also pretty lame on the surface, but the character experiences and interactions are better than anywhere else. They're what Galaxy's Edge should have had.

Pixar Pier was completely unnecessary, but the coaster remains a great coaster, and I do get some joy out of the irreverent jokes in the queue (i.e. Violet speaking for all the fans regarding the overhaul, and Edna justifying the move as "synergy"). I also enjoy the soundtrack more, if only the characters weren't constantly chattering over it.

The core of the park is Buena Vista Street, Grizzly Peak, and Cars Land, which remains a really solid core.

Overall, I find DCA to be a solid compliment to Disneyland, and I'd take its headliner attractions over Epcot's. It's hard to place these two, with only World Showcase giving Epcot a fighting chance, IMO.

How different is it from Spiderman? That’s my biggest issue with that ride because I feel it’s overhyped (best ride at universal??) and that’s my complaint about it.

It's been a few years (5-6) since I rode Spider-Man, and frankly it wasn't my favorite either. That said, it's far more ambitious than Ratatouille and employs more motion with the ride vehicle, which makes a difference. With Ratatouille, the vehicle can do almost anything ground-based, and for whatever reason you spend way too long sitting motionless and staring at screens. Screens that don't convince you you're in that world, either. The oversized props look like oversized props, and overall it really fell flat for me.

Would love to ride it again and see if 7 years of resigned disappointment make it better, but I have my doubts.

 

[Little Green Men]

I'm so torn on DCA. I think the park thematically peaked in 2015 (when Soarin' still soared over California, and Grizzly Peak took over Condor Flats), but I do find Mission Breakout to be ridiculously fun. I'd never even seen a Marvel movie before riding, but it immediately won me over.

Avengers Campus is also pretty lame on the surface, but the character experiences and interactions are better than anywhere else. They're what Galaxy's Edge should have had.

Pixar Pier was completely unnecessary, but the coaster remains a great coaster, and I do get some joy out of the irreverent jokes in the queue (i.e. Violet speaking for all the fans regarding the overhaul, and Edna justifying the move as "synergy"). I also enjoy the soundtrack more, if only the characters weren't constantly chattering over it.

The core of the park is Buena Vista Street, Grizzly Peak, and Cars Land, which remains a really solid core.

Overall, I find DCA to be a solid compliment to Disneyland, and I'd take its headliner attractions over Epcot's. It's hard to place these two, with only World Showcase giving Epcot a fighting chance, IMO.


It's been a few years (5-6) since I rode Spider-Man, and frankly it wasn't my favorite either. That said, it's far more ambitious than Ratatouille and employs more motion with the ride vehicle, which makes a difference. With Ratatouille, the vehicle can do almost anything ground-based, and for whatever reason you spend way too long sitting motionless and staring at screens. Screens that don't convince you you're in that world, either. The oversized props look like oversized props, and overall it really fell flat for me.

Would love to ride it again and see if 7 years of resigned disappointment make it better, but I have my doubts.

DCA still doesn’t have anything that compares to POTC, SSE, LWTL, American Adventure, etc length and scope wise.

 

[DonaldDoleWhip]

DCA still doesn’t have anything that compares to POTC, SSE, LWTL, American Adventure, etc length and scope wise.

Correct. I really felt that on Saturday morning after hitting the park for rope drop; by 10am had done pretty much everything I wanted to do. Left DLR, got some food in Venice, drove home, and headed back to DL around 5pm.

That said, Epcot hasn't even been open at 10am the last few months, so the situation's a little different, but my most recent Epcot visits have also lasted approximately 1-2 hours. Arrive during park hopping hours, circle World Showcase Lagoon, leave.

(For additional context, I don't really drink, so I'm circling the lagoon for its atmosphere and maybe 1-2 attractions, not booze.)

In theory, Ratatouille could lengthen my Epcot visits by offering a standby queue, but Epcot's unlikely to be my first park of the day and there's no way I'm paying to ride it. If that means waiting a few years, so be it.

 

[disneygeek90]

I'm so torn on DCA. I think the park thematically peaked in 2015 (when Soarin' still soared over California, and Grizzly Peak took over Condor Flats), but I do find Mission Breakout to be ridiculously fun. I'd never even seen a Marvel movie before riding, but it immediately won me over.

Avengers Campus is also pretty lame on the surface, but the character experiences and interactions are better than anywhere else. They're what Galaxy's Edge should have had.

Pixar Pier was completely unnecessary, but the coaster remains a great coaster, and I do get some joy out of the irreverent jokes in the queue (i.e. Violet speaking for all the fans regarding the overhaul, and Edna justifying the move as "synergy"). I also enjoy the soundtrack more, if only the characters weren't constantly chattering over it.

The core of the park is Buena Vista Street, Grizzly Peak, and Cars Land, which remains a really solid core.

Overall, I find DCA to be a solid compliment to Disneyland, and I'd take its headliner attractions over Epcot's. It's hard to place these two, with only World Showcase giving Epcot a fighting chance, IMO.


It's been a few years (5-6) since I rode Spider-Man, and frankly it wasn't my favorite either. That said, it's far more ambitious than Ratatouille and employs more motion with the ride vehicle, which makes a difference. With Ratatouille, the vehicle can do almost anything ground-based, and for whatever reason you spend way too long sitting motionless and staring at screens. Screens that don't convince you you're in that world, either. The oversized props look like oversized props, and overall it really fell flat for me.

Would love to ride it again and see if 7 years of resigned disappointment make it better, but I have my doubts.

I get that. I think my problem with spiderman is that some think it’s the best attraction in Orlando and I think it’s anything but. Spider-Man is fun but less so when people put those labels on it. I think Rat will also be fun, but it shouldn’t be viewed in E-ticket glasses.

 

[J4546]

Rat is a high end mid tier attraction. A solid B, and a great addition to epcot imo