News Remy's Ratatouille Adventure coming to Epcot

Casper Gutman

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This has always seemed like it was a nice D or C to me, which is what EPCOT (and AK and MGM) needs many more of.

But WDW has decided to charge for it like its a high-E, and that's the basis on which it has to judged. And on those terms, its a significant failure. I expect a lot of people who pay $15 a pop to ride it will agree, and I hope they voice their opinions.
 
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IMDREW

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I also preferred Rat to FoP.

It's not that I didn't like FoP, I'm also in the camp of the few (it seems) who don't quite get a big 'wow' moment from it. At least Rat is fun and has some physical movement through the sets.
May I ask you, growing up, have you ever wanted to fly? Im curious if thats a factor here. For me for instance, I have dreamed of flying my whole life. And FOP gave me that sensation, which made it so emotional to me. After the cave scene, it really felt like I was flying for the first time in my life. That was the big wow moment for me. Just curious :).
 

Sir_Cliff

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May I ask you, growing up, have you ever wanted to fly? Im curious if thats a factor here. For me for instance, I have dreamed of flying my whole life. And FOP gave me that sensation, which made it so emotional to me. After the cave scene, it really felt like I was flying for the first time in my life. That was the big wow moment for me. Just curious :).
That is actually quite an interesting aspect to how the attraction may hit people differently I'd never thought of!

To be honest, I don't think being able to fly was ever something that particularly activated my imagination growing up. Maybe that does make a big difference as I guess if that dream isn't there to be accessed that might change the attraction's impact from being amazing to just very good.
 

UNCgolf

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May I ask you, growing up, have you ever wanted to fly? Im curious if thats a factor here. For me for instance, I have dreamed of flying my whole life. And FOP gave me that sensation, which made it so emotional to me. After the cave scene, it really felt like I was flying for the first time in my life. That was the big wow moment for me. Just curious :).

Was it a different experience than Soarin'? I can see how it could be, since Soarin' is much less intense.

What about Forbidden Journey? I think that would give you a similar feeling of actually flying.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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Was it a different experience than Soarin'? I can see how it could be, since Soarin' is much less intense.

What about Forbidden Journey? I think that would give you a similar feeling of actually flying.
Not who you quoted, but I actually found Soarin' (Over California) to be the most successful at convincing me I'm flying. Then again, I almost always requested section B1 to ensure the view was spot-on.

Flight of Passage is a nice effort, and I love the serene moment in the cave immediately followed by a climactic music swell. But the video really looks like computer animation to me, and I never believe I'm actually there. Just feels like I'm on a relatively stationary motorcycle looking at a screen.

Finally, Soarin' Over The World should be treated as a comedy, where you sit as far to the left or right as you can and laugh at the over-the-top transitions and Eiffel Tower distortion.

Can someone please fix the typo in the article “craperie”? Please. Thank you.
Could just be a Freudian slip, and the quick service window is getting a really bad review.
 

UNCgolf

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Not who you quoted, but I actually found Soarin' (Over California) to be the most successful at convincing me I'm flying. Then again, I almost always requested section B1 to ensure the view was spot-on.

Flight of Passage is a nice effort, and I love the serene moment in the cave immediately followed by a climactic music swell. But the video really looks like computer animation to me, and I never believe I'm actually there. Just feels like I'm on a relatively stationary motorcycle looking at a screen.

Finally, Soarin' Over The World should be treated as a comedy, where you sit as far to the left or right as you can and laugh at the over-the-top transitions and Eiffel Tower distortion.

I actually enjoy Soarin' Over the World! I've only been on it twice, though, and I was lucky enough to sit right in the center both times so I didn't get the bad distortion. There is some really bad CGI in it that detracts from the experience, and it's not something I'd wait more than 15-20 minutes for, but I had fun riding it.

I would like to experience the California version sometime.

I also agree with you about FoP. The video is beautiful, but if I could watch it in 4K at home with the soundtrack, that would recreate like 95% of the experience to me. I never felt like I was actually there -- NRJ does a much better job at feeling transportive, regardless of any other flaws it has.
 
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egg

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It's all relative, of course. For some people (like me) the heavy reliance on screens will make it underwhelming almost by default because they simply fail to make me feel like I'm actually there.
I mean sometimes staticky animatronics don’t make you feel like you’re there either. In the Ratatouille ride the screens are blended with everything pretty poorly, and there’s no motion base on the vehicle to correlate with the movement on screen, which I think is what really hurts the experience.
 

UNCgolf

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Hard disagree here. I can't even put my finger on why, but NRJ just really does absolutely nothing for me. Might be that I don't care much for the Avatar world in general; all the live entertainment in the area typically has me rolling my eyes too.

I've never even seen Avatar, so it's not any connection to the IP -- it just makes me feel like I'm actually on a river on another planet. The set design is excellent, even if there are other flaws in the ride.

Did you have to wait a long time to ride NRJ? I'm convinced that's a big part of the issue for many people. It's definitely going to be underwhelming if you waited 90 minutes to ride it; it's not that kind of ride.
 

UNCgolf

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I mean sometimes staticky animatronics don’t make you feel like you’re there either. In the Ratatouille ride the screens are blended with everything pretty poorly, and there’s no motion base on the vehicle to correlate with the movement on screen, which I think is what really hurts the experience.

Sure -- the overall set design may be the most important foundational aspect of a ride for me. It's why I think Frozen Ever After is pretty bad; the animatronics are excellent but for most of the ride they're surrounded by almost nothing. It's almost like they're in a black void at times.
 

ChrisFL

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Hard disagree here. I can't even put my finger on why, but NRJ just really does absolutely nothing for me. Might be that I don't care much for the Avatar world in general; all the live entertainment in the area typically has me rolling my eyes too.

I think for me it's because I look at it and all I see is "Oh they used this technology to do this effect, I wonder how they did that one, probably ______ ". Younger people or those not as into the behind the scenes stuff probably enjoy it more.

My problem is that it's very short and there's absolutely nothing that happens beyond ambience and a song at the end.
 

DonaldDoleWhip

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Sure -- the overall set design may be the most important foundational aspect of a ride for me. It's why I think Frozen Ever After is pretty bad; the animatronics are excellent but for most of the ride they're surrounded by almost nothing. It's almost like they're in a black void at times.
I begrudgingly find Frozen Ever After more enjoyable than Maelstrom, but when I rode with my older sister she found it laughably bad and phoned in. The critiques are absolutely valid.

Rat might be a better experience on balance, but I wish it had an AA stacking up to Elsa or Olaf (let alone the Shaman on NRJ).


Hard disagree here. I can't even put my finger on why, but NRJ just really does absolutely nothing for me. Might be that I don't care much for the Avatar world in general; all the live entertainment in the area typically has me rolling my eyes too.
I don’t care much for the Avatar world either, but I do like Pandora—albeit not as much as Africa or Asia.

That said, I don’t find either of the attractions to be the star of the land; it would have to be the impressive landscape. In second place: steak and chicken combo bowl at Satu’li Canteen.
 

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