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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

Vinnie Mac

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Hardly. You can’t be that silly.
Not as silly as those who complain about any and everything because of "muh nostalgia". I agreed with the initial barge complaints but now it just seems like everything is a problem with some people. I guarantee you, once HarmonioUS debuts, there will be people looking for even the tiniest of things wrong with the show. Was there a light that was slightly less bright than a light used in Illuminations? Failure! Did that one firework seem smaller than the other one from Illuminations? Failure! If it rains on October 1st (god forbid), it's the barges fault, it NEVER rained when Illuminations was around. Failure!

I loved Illuminations too but come on now lol.
 

dreday3

Well-Known Member
It's not so much that people don't like it. I get it, they have their own reasons.

It's that if you do like something on these boards, you are treated like the village idiot! :D
Some of the ribbing is done in fun, some of it...isn't.

Lucky for me I have endless enthusiasm and it's hard for me not to be positive about all the new stuff that's coming.
Unlucky for most others who see my posts I suppose.

In the end, we will all enjoy or not enjoy the show as we see fit. And life will go on. :)
 
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cookiee_munster

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I think the fact that it's just full of really clunky looking machinery just really didn't have that wow factor I was expecting. You can draw something and make it look incredible, but turning it into reality may be a little more difficult...

Honestly, the arm things going up and down with the lights and the jets actually made me laugh.

I know world of colour is essentially just a load of sunken lights and fountains but there's something about how all the tech is fairly hidden away and how understated it is and not so over the top and in your face that just makes it more enjoyable and dare i say it, more "magical".
 

mnelson3

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I think one of the biggest issues is how large these barges are and how sparse the fountains are. Had there been more fountains and closer together that would’ve made a big difference, and also been more of a disguise, somewhat, for the barges.

As for wow moments… Will there even be any? Or any surprises?
 

gerarar

Well-Known Member
This transition from projection/screen to lasers is so clean and nice ngl.
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Little Green Men

Well-Known Member
It's not so much that people don't like it. I get it, they have their own reasons.

It's that if you do like something on these boards, you are treated like the village idiot! :D
Some of the ribbing is done in fun, some of it...isn't.

Lucky for me I have endless enthusiasm and it's hard for me not to be positive about all the new stuff that's coming.
Unlucky for most others who see my posts I suppose.

In the end, we will all enjoy or not enjoy the show as we see fit. And life will go on. :)
Don’t feel bad, you just have zero standards and bad taste 😜
 

Sir_Cliff

Well-Known Member
This transition from projection/screen to lasers is so clean and nice ngl.
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It does look nice, but how visible will it be around the lagoon? That's a big question mark for me from seeing the video. If you have to be in a viewing area where you're looking at the ring straight on and all the effects and projections from the ring are lost if you're standing on the sides of the lagoon, that would be a pretty big design flaw.
 

MrPromey

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I still don't understand taking away the 360 view from the 360 lagoon. I didn't understand it then, I don't understand it now, and I won't understand it in the future.

I sort of thought that the tacos were in part, poor-man's screens to show the imagery for those who couldn't get a spot for the perfect view at the mouth of World Showcase but a number of the cuts shown in that video show nothing on those screens at all while stuff is happening in the middle or those only having accent stuff while the main screen shows the story.

I mean, I sort of get it: Directing a show with a point and meaning intened to work at many different angels is hard and not something that a lot of people have a lot of experience in doing but Disney used to do it and it feels like they've given up totally, not just here but with the castle shows, with the shows at Hollywood Studios, and when they had to build stadiums to perform to when they tried to do Rivers of Light.*

Instead of making shows designed to fit their spaces like they used to, it feels like more and more, they are trying to force people into configurations those spaces were not designed for so that they can present more traditional stage-like directional shows.

HEA was/is impressive but incredibly problematic and unsafe feeling** in the kinds of crowds it creates in front of the castle and again, this is after they destroyed the hub for over a year for what we were told, was a plan to improve the already problematic crowds during nightime shows and parades in that area that didn't focus people there.

That courtyard area at Hollywood studios was always a troubled area during nighttime shows even before they added projections that required you to be right there in it to see everything but they doubled down with that and built projection towers that block views from spaces you used to be able to see shows from.

I just don't get the thinking with this stuff. It feels like they are developing them all in a bubble without consideration of the real-world experience. 🤷‍♂️


*I know this was also in part, about trying to create space for people to see it and not just the design of the show.

**I have a personal story about trying to get my son to first aid through a "desert party and emergency-only" corridor they maintain in the crowd, one time prior to the start of an HEA performance that went horribly bad so I have skin in this particular argument.
 
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CaptinEO

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Oh give me a break Some people have standards.
I can say my personal experience is I've only been to Epcot 3 times, and all were within the last decade, and even I'm so saddened hearing that this will block the lagoon's view permanently. I saw Epcot Forever the other night and it was nice but my wife and I agreed illuminations was much better.

After seeing a video of this replacement I'm convinced they are ruining Epcot.

So once again, I have no nostalgia to speak for the place and never went during the 80s, and it's plain to see this is a huge downgrade.
 

Inspired Figment

Well-Known Member
Not as silly as those who complain about any and everything because of "muh nostalgia". I agreed with the initial barge complaints but now it just seems like everything is a problem with some people. I guarantee you, once HarmonioUS debuts, there will be people looking for even the tiniest of things wrong with the show. Was there a light that was slightly less bright than a light used in Illuminations? Failure! Did that one firework seem smaller than the other one from Illuminations? Failure! If it rains on October 1st (god forbid), it's the barges fault, it NEVER rained when Illuminations was around. Failure!

I loved Illuminations too but come on now lol.
You’re misunderstanding people’s complaints/frustrations. It’s not “Muh Nostalgia”. It’s “wrong central focus”. The focus should be on the actual people, culture, and countries. ‘Not’ the characters & same songs from the movies simply dubbed in different languages to makeup for “representation”. The characters should’ve been a “compliment” to the world showcase theme if they had to use them, not the focus.
 

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