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News Reflections of Earth confirmed to be replaced by Harmonious

vikescaper

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Could this potentially result in changes being forced to happen?

If so the only thing I think they could/would change is the center barge (Stargate). Either changing it or cutting it completely. That would also help, slightly, with the daytime views and the off center issue. No idea if the three center barges are now permanently joined together or if they could be separated, but if they could be separated maybe keep the two center arm barges and just replace the middle Stargate barge?

Just a guess but maybe instead of Harmonious facing another delay, in order to make changes to the center barge, maybe the show could still go on without the center barge?
What they need to do is build two more Stargates and put them on both sides of the current stargate.....
 

Brenthodge

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Could this potentially result in changes being forced to happen?

If so the only thing I think they could/would change is the center barge (Stargate). Either changing it or cutting it completely. That would also help, slightly, with the daytime views and the off center issue. No idea if the three center barges are now permanently joined together or if they could be separated, but if they could be separated maybe keep the two center arm barges and just replace the middle Stargate barge?

Just a guess but maybe instead of Harmonious facing another delay, in order to make changes to the center barge, maybe the show could still go on without the center barge?
Ha ha. That’s funny!
 

mnelson3

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Ha ha. That’s funny!

Crazy I know but if they were to change anything, which yeah is probably unlikely at this point, the stargate seems like the most doable, maybe, since it’s on its own barge. Unless they permanently connected the 3 center barges together by wiring, pipes, etc which is very possible.
They sure as heck are not going to do anything with the tacos. I’m sure the stargate costed a pretty penny but not as much as the tacos and the arms.
 
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Giss Neric

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Could this potentially result in changes being forced to happen?

If so the only thing I think they could/would change is the center barge (Stargate). Either changing it or cutting it completely. That would also help, slightly, with the daytime views and the off center issue. No idea if the three center barges are now permanently joined together or if they could be separated, but if they could be separated maybe keep the two center arm barges and just replace the middle Stargate barge?

Just a guess but maybe instead of Harmonious facing another delay, in order to make changes to the center barge, maybe the show could still go on without the center barge?
I also wanna see how clear the water screens would be in the startgate as compared to the taco barges where it's literally screens. The water screens in Rivers of Light was poor but the ones in World of Color was really clear.
 
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Brad Bishop

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I'm pretty sure if a large garden in Pennsylvania can run their fountains all day Disney shouldn't have a problem doing so.

Disney also talked big about all of the interactive characters in Galaxy's Edge and how you'd be walking around interacting with them all day. They lasted a few days during the ceremonies.

The idea here is cost vs benefit.

You can't show on a spreadsheet where the cost of paying those actors resulted in a benefit at the ticket booth. In fact, you could almost prove the opposite as people lined up to get into Galaxy's Edge anyway even with the absence of actors. If the public is going to pay anyway why incur the cost?

This is just the current management's way of running the business. Everything is about counting beans. If you can't sell it, then don't offer it.

Some people run their business on experience such as: "You can a good experience, right? We'll see you again, next time, and make more money off of you and those you tell about your experience."

The Bob's are much more straight forward. They just see it as an even trade: "You bought WDW that day and got WDW that day."
 
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Brad Bishop

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Well lets just take a look...

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I tried to break it down by circles.
Red will clearly be Dinner Packages/Fastpass/Reserved/Pay-Per-View areas.
Blue seems to be the best areas that will be first come first serve, still trees in these areas might obscure some stuff.
Orange might still give you a partial view of the Stargate's screen but will be covered by trees/structures/Water Tacos.
Yellow will still give you a good view but the Japanese Archway will be front and center in the middle of the Stargate.
Green will be generally a bad view/incomplete since you will not be able to see the Stargate screen.
Pink are the 3 waterfront restaurants and the Illuminations dessert party/fastpass viewing area. These now seem to be bad/generally poor viewing areas as none of them face the Stargate's screen and half of them look right into the exposed side of a Water Taco.

Overall it seems that the prime viewing angles of the arguably largest nighttime show viewing area has been reduced down to less than 40% of the entire lagoon.

I didn't think about it until your post: I wonder if this nighttime spectacular will be enough for them to get rid of all of those unsightly trees around the lake which obscure people viewing the show.
 

GimpYancIent

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I didn't think about it until your post: I wonder if this nighttime spectacular will be enough for them to get rid of all of those unsightly trees around the lake which obscure people viewing the show.
There you go. Let's take out our frustrations on the vegetation. No need for a little shade during the day.
 

Inspired Figment

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Who's more likely to stop funding an attraction, Chiquita or Elsa?
In all honesty, it’s less to do with sponsorship and more to do with Disney themselves and their lack of faith, respect, and understanding of the appeal of park-exclusive concepts compared to film originated ones. Why? I have no idea.. You’d think they’d use the same mentality they use at Pixar for instance with EPCOT & the parks.. but I guess not. Apparently only movies are the medium that require genuine creativity and even then, that needs work in the film department as a whole.
 

Inspired Figment

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Ultimately I think it’s because for some strange reason.. they genuinely believe that Universal Studios’ approach to the parks is the only solid & profitable one.. and not their pre-established model built from upon decades of experience, popularity, and legacy in having a balance of both unique park exclusive content ‘and’ film IP inspired stuff. The current mentality boggles my mind as much as it does many, many others..
 

MatheusPG

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Ultimately I think it’s because for some strange reason.. they genuinely believe that Universal Studios’ approach to the parks is the only solid & profitable one.. and not their pre-established model built from upon decades of experience, popularity, and legacy in having a balance of both unique park exclusive content ‘and’ film IP inspired stuff. The current mentality boggles my mind as much as it does many, many others..
Agreed and Chapek has already recognized that that is their kind of thinking... Which is weird, because Disney is still more visited and profitable than Universal, at least for now... When Epic Universe opens and Epcot becomes a generic park with generic rides and generic areas, they will be in the same "IP Field" as Universal, and everyone that I know (all regular visitors, not aficionados) believes that Universal does IP´s and new rides much better than Disney, but what makes the difference is the theming and feel of the parks, like Epcot, where almost everyone felt touched, but I don´t believe that they will still feel like that, now that it will be just a Six Flags where you go from generic ride to generic ride...
 

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